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For what sake Ichigo should fight for?
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Posted 3/19/09
friends i guess
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I understand what you guys are saying, but Ichigo wouldn't be Ichigo is he wanted to fight to destroy. Ichigo will never be that way. Never. He fights to protect his friends and at the end of the day, that's gonna over-rule power and instinct. Don't get me wrong, power and instinct are important, and him wanting to protect his friends is instinct in itself, but it'll take something really mind blowing to change Ichigo's core concepts. It's possible, but I would be disappointed because thats the easy way out.

Ichigo is only 16 years old though, so it's possible he could start to change as he ages more, you've gotta keep in mind hes always fought opponents that are way older than him, which is partly why they think so differently... along with loads of other reasons. As someone said, Ichigo owned Grimmjow because Orihime strengthened his resolve, that's true strength ;)

New form is badass btw, don't know if we'll be seeing Hollow Ichigo just yet, its been too long since hes appeared though.
Posted 3/20/09

superhearing wrote:

I understand what you guys are saying, but Ichigo wouldn't be Ichigo is he wanted to fight to destroy. Ichigo will never be that way. Never. He fights to protect his friends and at the end of the day, that's gonna over-rule power and instinct. Don't get me wrong, power and instinct are important, and him wanting to protect his friends is instinct in itself, but it'll take something really mind blowing to change Ichigo's core concepts. It's possible, but I would be disappointed because thats the easy way out.

Ichigo is only 16 years old though, so it's possible he could start to change as he ages more, you've gotta keep in mind hes always fought opponents that are way older than him, which is partly why they think so differently... along with loads of other reasons. As someone said, Ichigo owned Grimmjow because Orihime strengthened his resolve, that's true strength ;)

New form is badass btw, don't know if we'll be seeing Hollow Ichigo just yet, its been too long since hes appeared though.


Plus she did again with this battle in manga 350.

But i want him too fight for his sisters sake then Orihime.
Posted 3/20/09 , edited 3/20/09

ChApPy_APriL wrote:

I couldn't agree more about this. Personally I love Hollow Ichigo [as you can tell by my icon and profile].
Hollow Ichigo is teaching him more fighting instinct in battle. As said before Grimmjow pointed this out in HM.
But what i do believe Ichigo IS indeed getting more of that.
What was the other reason Ichigo wanted to go to HM besides saving Orihime? Fight Grimmjow. So I believe Ichigo is getting little by little getting more destructive. More willing to fight other than having a reason. [ignore the fight with Ulquiorra. xD]

I love how Hollow Ichigo fucks with his mind, it just makes him more awesome.
I would love for more Hollow Ichigo!

I would like both. Would make him more of a bad ass.

The first two fights with Grimmjow was good till Rukia gotta in the way of them. Again you guys see what you wanna see and miss all the facts.

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how much do u wna bet if sum 1 friggn pet goldfish was taken over by a hollow ichigo would fight for the person....
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He should fight for his pride and family.... also for his GOOD-friends, when I mean GOOOOD... i'm saying friends who don't betray you IN ANY CIRCOMSTANCES! .... GDM !!
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In my opinion... Ichigo should mix both. to win the battle, to kill to protect his friends. to ruthlessly kill with such ruthlessness, for his friends. to become stronger... for his friends. He needs the motivation of protecting his friends to become stronger, but yet desire to kill in battle, to ruthlessly enjoy the battle at the same time. that's ichigo's weakness. He holds back sometimes. not his power, but the joy he gets from fighting. the desire to win. He should stop holding back that urge... and let it free, then he would be very powerful.... that's what the hollow ichigo was talking about.

in other words, ichigo cannot do without the need of protecting his friends, neither can he do without the saddistic obsession of the killing intent. A noble goal is good, but if it holds you back... then its time to begin letting that goal a bit... yeah... that's what the captains can do
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pchery18 wrote:

Okay, first the outlines:

Ichigo: virtuous, wants to protect people
Hollow Ichigo: malicious, wants to kill everything

Whats the point here: So people are getting pissed off that Ichigo has a hard time winning. My guess its because of that battle instinct his hollow self was talking about. Because Ichigo naturally lacks this "battle instinct" he doesn't..."own".

Kenpachi mentioned it too. Urahara mentioned it but in a different way when he was training him. The vaizards were sort of pointing that out as well.

So suppose Ichigo casts this need to protect others and battle solely for the purpose of killing his opponent (just like against grimmjow), would it make him stronger? Yes. Would it kill a little bit of his persona? Definitely.


I know its all good that Ichigo can don his hollow mask and all but personally, I think he needs to unleash more of Shirosaki(Hollow Ichigo). Heck, maybe he should harden is attitude like that.


So what do you guys vouch for? A protective Ichigo? Or a destructive one?


*toys with the idea of Ichigo developing battle lust* XDDDDD


i wanna see him kick some ass. he hasn't done that in a while.
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pchery18 wrote:

Okay, first the outlines:

Ichigo: virtuous, wants to protect people
Hollow Ichigo: malicious, wants to kill everything

Whats the point here: So people are getting pissed off that Ichigo has a hard time winning. My guess its because of that battle instinct his hollow self was talking about. Because Ichigo naturally lacks this "battle instinct" he doesn't..."own".

Kenpachi mentioned it too. Urahara mentioned it but in a different way when he was training him. The vaizards were sort of pointing that out as well.

So suppose Ichigo casts this need to protect others and battle solely for the purpose of killing his opponent (just like against grimmjow), would it make him stronger? Yes. Would it kill a little bit of his persona? Definitely.


I know its all good that Ichigo can don his hollow mask and all but personally, I think he needs to unleash more of Shirosaki(Hollow Ichigo). Heck, maybe he should harden is attitude like that.


So what do you guys vouch for? A protective Ichigo? Or a destructive one?


*toys with the idea of Ichigo developing battle lust* XDDDDD


i felt a little bit of relief when he tossed orohime aside with his power. that gave me some hope that he would stop being a dumass and find it in himself to rip up his oppenent. i hope he mans up like the vizards.
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he should proberly rip his opponent becoz he cares for his frens too much
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Posted 3/27/09 , edited 3/27/09
for his friends and Rukia^^( ICHIRUKI 4EVER)and of course for his family
Posted 5/19/09
Ichigo used to fight for justice and now minice. JOIN ARRANCAR NOW!!!!!!! ICHIGO
Posted 5/19/09
Yeah, but what if he turns on that very friend. What do you think that friend would do? Ichigo may end fighting rukia or his father. wait. ichigo attacked the quincy!!!! stabed him. OHHH NOOO!!!!!
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hard one: i think that he should fight for his family(one of hte reasons he became a death god) and his friends (one of the reasons hge became a death god and go on those missions and stuff)
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