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think of hunt and kill like this
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Posted 8/10/08

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...those who just saw a few youtube slaughter houses and instantly said .. "oh my god this is wrong" and walked into a mc donalds that same day

Oh I now see where you're coming at. People profess on how they abhor such cruelty on animals, but the real irony is that they do not justify their claims, as in the example you stated regarding people who protest yet enter a fast-food chain.

I, too, feel as if these people are making a fool out of themselves, unconsciously transforming into hypocrites because of their actions.


but ... prejudice opinions is what im totally against, everyone should be more careful and patient about forming an opinion, do appropriate reseach and dissect other opinions .. everyone forms one for a reason is this person the same as you? did he jump the gun? was his decision influenced by a third party i.e religion

But then you have said that people can form their own opinions. Wouldn't this statement of you hating an opinion be contradicting of your previous claim below?

and yes ... whether its for or against your own i believe everyone should have the right to form an opinion on anything


Although baseless opinions are a bit prejudiced, still it is a person's opinion in which there is little you can do about it.

And lastly,

yeah im not really sure myself but i was aiming for the protesting side of it and maybe clear a few things....oh and to go into more detail about my first answer ...


Oh you should do that to make this topic more refined and understandable to most users. And try to narrow down the topic. It really is a headache reading paragraphs which are seemingly unrelated to each other. What I was looking for was cohesiveness. So good luck on that.






1. thanks

2. just because i dont like an opinion i still think its everyones right to have one, what im trying to say is people should be more careful on how they form theirs because its often an overnight opinion that causes unnecessary conflict

3. the topic heading might have been a bit off but i thought i explained it in the sub heading "understand before you judge ... gather facts before you form opinions" but i'll take better steps in making it as clear as possible next time

thank you

but just out of curiosity whats your overall opinion of the topic so far?

Posted 8/10/08

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I-Killerbee-I wrote:

Oh and yeah, the best hunters are those who accidentally shoot their own hunter partner...retards.


Now this, I've got to see. xD




Well, they say it was an accident. Either it's a lie, or they didn't learn the hunter "rules" thoroughly enough. A hunter's codex is, that he should never shoot at something if he ain't 100% sure that it is the target he is hunting for, and if he can't see it good enough to make out what it is, then he is disallowed to shoot. This rules are made so that they don't shoot their "partners" or random people, or what not...

One of my Uncle's friend did "accidentally" shoot his hunter partner...the guy who got shot is dead...good riddance, nobody can really accuse him of murder since it was an accident, now can they?

Interesting fact is, that this happens quite often...

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Posted 8/10/08

J1nn wrote:

but just out of curiosity whats your overall opinion of the topic so far?


Hunters can be vile and their methods could be brutal. Still, the end product would be an organisms death. Although this might be fate, it is a matter of putting an end to their life to supply our needs in a dignified manner, which would lessen the gore and the unnecessary retribution of some environmental advocates.

There are religious sects that practice this so-called "dignified death". It is namely the Muslims and the Jewish. Both practice halal and have kosher foods (in accordance to Kashrut dietary laws), respectively.
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Posted 8/10/08

I-Killerbee-I wrote:


WeeBoX wrote:


I-Killerbee-I wrote:

Oh and yeah, the best hunters are those who accidentally shoot their own hunter partner...retards.


Now this, I've got to see. xD


Well, they say it was an accident. Either it's a lie, or they didn't learn the hunter "rules" thoroughly enough. A hunter's codex is, that he should never shoot at something if he ain't 100% sure that it is the target he is hunting for, and if he can't see it good enough to make out what it is, then he is disallowed to shoot. This rules are made so that they don't shoot their "partners" or random people, or what not...

One of my Uncle's friend did "accidentally" shoot his hunter partner...the guy who got shot is dead...good riddance, nobody can really accuse him of murder since it was an accident, now can they?

Interesting fact is, that this happens quite often...

Floetry~


yeah i think they should really look into that ... when some people get a little too trigger happy or so eager to catch something they shoot the first thing they see ... and i'll quote ur first post too but when i've woken up a little XD im still half asleep
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I agree with the Survival of the Fittest. Reguardless if people disagree, Darwin is right. Its a dog eat dog world. Survival skills are precious to every human. Without them, we wouldn't have come to where we are now. There are things we can conquer as humans, and then because we are humans there are many things we cannot conquer--LIke the world; Mother Nature.

We cannot stop her, but we can Survive her. I suppose one could call it luck if one does survive. But It sure takes quick wits to figure out what the hell you gotta do in some situations.
Posted 11/16/10

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would you still decide to make it or let someone else have a chance and just fade from existance ... and if you made it .... what do you think happened to your brothers and sisters

this is the butchery you tree huggers protest against ... survival of the fittest ... whether you like it or not the weak die ... most of them anyway ... the ones we cant save ... or the ones that are still useful to us

but thats how life is ... as a hunter i would just like to say

and yeah its kinda random ... but dont think hunters dont care about our prey ... we just grow callous of it ... we still care, we just dont show it anymore ... because its supply and demand people ... before you, who were born yesterday (figure of speech) try to compramise thousands of years of tradition please do some research on how we got this far in the first place

we hunted what goes into your burger king and your chanel and versace ... please understand we have emotion and we feel sorrow for every kill (apart from those fucking psycho's that murder cats and dogs for fun .. count us out of that bunch) but as far as supply and demand goes ... as long as there is demand there will be supply

as far as enjoyment goes ... there is only tradition ... tradition you must respect ... like tracking and stalking ... please do your best to understand what these people do before you judge them


Cows are now hunted.
They are bred for consumption.

Fur farms account for 67% of all global mink-fur, and 70% of all fox-furs.

Would fur be worth anything if it had bullet holes?

So a redneck taking a gun and shooting at animals with his buddies is comparable to the hunters who made a living selling furs, or used it to feed their families?
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Posted 11/23/10

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J1nn wrote:

would you still decide to make it or let someone else have a chance and just fade from existance ... and if you made it .... what do you think happened to your brothers and sisters

this is the butchery you tree huggers protest against ... survival of the fittest ... whether you like it or not the weak die ... most of them anyway ... the ones we cant save ... or the ones that are still useful to us

but thats how life is ... as a hunter i would just like to say

and yeah its kinda random ... but dont think hunters dont care about our prey ... we just grow callous of it ... we still care, we just dont show it anymore ... because its supply and demand people ... before you, who were born yesterday (figure of speech) try to compramise thousands of years of tradition please do some research on how we got this far in the first place

we hunted what goes into your burger king and your chanel and versace ... please understand we have emotion and we feel sorrow for every kill (apart from those fucking psycho's that murder cats and dogs for fun .. count us out of that bunch) but as far as supply and demand goes ... as long as there is demand there will be supply

as far as enjoyment goes ... there is only tradition ... tradition you must respect ... like tracking and stalking ... please do your best to understand what these people do before you judge them


Cows are now hunted.
They are bred for consumption.

Fur farms account for 67% of all global mink-fur, and 70% of all fox-furs.

Would fur be worth anything if it had bullet holes?

So a redneck taking a gun and shooting at animals with his buddies is comparable to the hunters who made a living selling furs, or used it to feed their families?


i was mainly talking about how it all started but ...

even though i'm against caging animals up for their whole lives then butchering them in inhumane ways, i can't disagree with the method ... too many people to feed in short spaces of time mean that we have to develope places like these, don't get me wrong i would be happier if they invested in more space, better living enviroments and more humane methods of killing but these dudes are in it for the profit, nothing else .. and they make more than enough cash for certain immunities .. also leather is easily repaied .. bullet holes are barely noticable but that's beside the point ... as deaths go i'm pretty sure being skinned alive isn't umong the list of "best ways to go"

either way, bottom line is ... the population of the planet and the nature of humans make an ideal solution near impossible.

lastly, not all hunters are rednecks, i'm a londoner ffs
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In World of Warcraft there is a cave that has a mother bear and 2 cubs. I ran in and killed the mother and skinned it in front of her cubs, when I realized what I did I got a little concerned about my behavior. So on my way back to town with 1 mama bear skin and 2 baby cub skins I made a neat coat that gives +5 to agility.

I do agree that in real life killing for sport is pretty cruel. For food I understand.
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Posted 11/23/10
All I got from this is that OP is a cougar.
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what you say is right. 100% its right. just survival fittest changed from strength to intelligence. as we got smarter we changed are survival tactics. but to be fair in the end it was always ended with luck. to survive you always had to have luck on your side.
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Posted 11/23/10
Hunting for the purpose of food I can understand. My dad was a hunter. He did it to put food on the table. Man he made the BEST venison stew.


As far as hunting for sport to hang on your living room wall..... it's kinda freaky to me. I don't want dead animal heads watching me.
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Posted 11/24/10

GrimCooler wrote:

In World of Warcraft there is a cave that has a mother bear and 2 cubs. I ran in and killed the mother and skinned it in front of her cubs, when I realized what I did I got a little concerned about my behavior. So on my way back to town with 1 mama bear skin and 2 baby cub skins I made a neat coat that gives +5 to agility.

I do agree that in real life killing for sport is pretty cruel. For food I understand.


hahahaha xD WOW....
Posted 11/24/10

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GrimCooler wrote:

In World of Warcraft there is a cave that has a mother bear and 2 cubs. I ran in and killed the mother and skinned it in front of her cubs, when I realized what I did I got a little concerned about my behavior. So on my way back to town with 1 mama bear skin and 2 baby cub skins I made a neat coat that gives +5 to agility.

I do agree that in real life killing for sport is pretty cruel. For food I understand.


hahahaha xD WOW....


No, the "O" in "WOW" is in lowercase.

Women...
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Wall of words.
Hard, complicated words...
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Posted 11/24/10

GheyDeer wrote:


PhoungSeppuku wrote:


GrimCooler wrote:

In World of Warcraft there is a cave that has a mother bear and 2 cubs. I ran in and killed the mother and skinned it in front of her cubs, when I realized what I did I got a little concerned about my behavior. So on my way back to town with 1 mama bear skin and 2 baby cub skins I made a neat coat that gives +5 to agility.

I do agree that in real life killing for sport is pretty cruel. For food I understand.


hahahaha xD WOW....


No, the "O" in "WOW" is in lowercase.

Women...


I was being lazy and didn't take it off caps >_> sorry that my apathy (for not typing WOW properly) offends you. >_> Men complain about everything.....
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