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YOUR RESPONSE: Olympics Women's Gymnastics - China Too Under-aged?
Posted 8/13/08 , edited 8/13/08
there is such a thing as YOUTH OLYMPICS.
i'm not going to say anything but i just believe the olympics is for older athletes like adults.
If every kid is going to aim towards the olympics, we might as well close business for the YOUTH olympics.
BTW, the youth olympics are gonna be held in Singapore in 2010.
just two more years. they can be more better by then if they could wait right?
I'm sad for the older gymnasts from china (16 and above ).
I know everyone is trying to win gold medals, but there should be a strict age restriction so competition is fair.
I believe their talent is good and the Youth Olympics is a better place to show their great talent.
My cousin, who is 14, is running in the Youth Olympics. You don't see her trying to fake her age just to get to the olympics right?
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Well, the Olympics committee have stated that they will not undergo further investigate regarding the allegations against the Chinese women's gymnastic team because they received reliable and valid proof that the girls are of age qualification. Plus, if there is the possibility of these allegations being false and think of the consequences! Plent

Who knew that Dominic Moceano from the 1996 Olympics gymnastics with Kerri Strug was 14 when she competed and won the gold, too, but of course that didn't matter much back then! Pushing the envelope here but I wonder if people are truly intimidated by how good the Chinese are this year that all these issues exist...

Anyway, I'm excited for the individual competitions and I'm still rooting for Team China!!!! Which is a little odd for me because I've always rooted for Team USA!
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Posted 8/13/08

kiwisushi wrote:

there is such a thing as YOUTH OLYMPICS.
i'm not going to say anything but i just believe the olympics is for older athletes like adults.
If every kid is going to aim towards the olympics, we might as well close business for the YOUTH olympics.
BTW, the youth olympics are gonna be held in Singapore in 2010.
just two more years. they can be more better by then if they could wait right?
I'm sad for the older gymnasts from china (16 and above ).
I know everyone is trying to win gold medals, but there should be a strict age restriction so competition is fair.
I believe their talent is good and the Youth Olympics is a better place to show their great talent.
My cousin, who is 14, is running in the Youth Olympics. You don't see her trying to fake her age just to get to the olympics right?





There has been other contestants who were under the age qualifications over the Olympic years and in fact, Dominic Moceano was 14 when she won the gold in 1996 with Kerri Strug. I was a great fan of hers, too! What everyone needs to keep in mind that the allegations against the Chinese gymnast were never proven except the way they look and I'm sure that most of you would agree that you can't judge someone by their facial features or by their height. I think that's what most people are doing this year and it's not really fair.

I know I even thought these Chinese girls look younger than 16 and it IS possible to look younger than your age--more likely if you are of Asian ethnicity. If you want age restriction to be fair, you will have to include every underaged athletes that have competed and that's almost impossible to do. All I'm saying is the Chinese women's gymnastics team well-deserved the gold regardless of all these issues about people thinking that these girls look too young for their age than actually believing that they are actually younger than the qualified age.

There's also nothing wrong with Youth Olympics either.
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LOL there around 15 and 16 and won.
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Posted 8/13/08
axbabe04u Thank you for posting the article, I was thinking of starting a thread about this too.
I agree with you, age shouldn't matter.
I saw the Chinese team yesterday on NBC ( freaking recorded <_<) , and they were awesome, I was surprise by how well they did. Absolutely amazing!
The American team was very good also.

I'm tired of people trying to discredit those girls, saying stuff like "oh, they won because they're younger" no, idiots! they won because they practiced like crazy, and sweating their butt off!

I heard that being younger make them less afriad of doing difficulty stuff,

During one of the high bar thingy, I was afriad that Chinese girl ( sorry, forgot her name) was going to fall, because she was so short compare to the others. I don't know much about Gymnastics, but isn't being younger, and shorter give you less of an advantage? Since they're shorter, have less strength and lack experiences


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Posted 8/13/08
i completely lmaoffed at this dumb crap

america has been bad mouthing china since forever and even though im not chinese it still is really annoying and very infuriating about the people who write such articles.

(i am generalizing since i am asian no offense to anyone)

most asians tend to look younger than they are and i my friend is half korean and half chinese she is 16 years old and not even 5 feet tall

and ALSO my cousin still had 2 baby teeth at the age of 15



and if u guys read that article about china faking that little girl that makes me angry too reading the comments on that thing when america does exactly the same
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Posted 8/13/08
does age really matter? they have the skill and ability. so what is the problem -_-
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Posted 8/13/08 , edited 8/13/08
I am beyond frustrated with all these ignorance surrounding this ridiculous allegations! Let me summarize these allegations one by one! Help add to the list if you must...one ridiculous allegations and their reasons by one!!! Plus, I'm tired of repeating myself! hahah



Allegations:

#1 - "They're too young! They don't even look 16! The Chinese government definitely had something to do with this!"
Um, don't judge a book (in this case someone) by it's cover meaning...why should we judge someone because of their features, their height, their color, or by their weight!? Does that even make sense? First of all, most of you would agree that Asians have the tendency of being smaller, look younger, and shorter than the average person but that doesn't mean all Asian's are short or look young or skinny either! We have muscles and we could look mature, too!

Is there a guideline somewhere on what or how an 16-year-old is suppose to look like or even act? If there is, someone share it! As I've said in the very first post, I believe that people should judge the Chinese women's Olympic team by their talents and ability and not the way they look. It's sad because the determination and perseverance are overshadowed because of the way they look and of the assumptions made regarding their age. What. Is. The. Point. Anyway? Is there a reason to prove? Does it matter?


#2 - "Atleast 3 teammates don't have the Age Qualifications!!!"
Are you kidding me?! The Olympics committee have dropped all allegations against these Chinese women's Olympic team BECAUSE they have no reason to believe that these girls are underaged. So whatever complaints you have regarding this issue, don't expect anything to change. Why? These girls well-deserved to win the gold medal! You SAW it and you know WHY they won the gold medal. Simple as that!

You're not convinced? Okay, well these allegations of athletes not qualifying the age have been going on for years--especially in gymnastics. Yes, YEARS!!!! An example? In 1996, the USA team won gold thanks to Kerri Strug great vault and yes, they well-deserved it! Here's the thing though....Dominique Moceano was 14! That's not a hidden fact but noone just realized it or complained for unknown reasons. So, is that fair? The Chinese women's Olympic team is getting all these allegations and complaints about their age and it was never proven that they are underaged. Of course, these allegations are based on opinions only and sources that aren't even too reliable. So is there some biased?


Off to my next question...related to this!

#3 - "China is the host of this year's Olympics so biased exist! Of course they wont do anything about it!"
If China is biased than USA was biased, too, when the USA won gold in Atlanta, GA even when they knew one of the members were 14 at the time. The problem isn't that they shouldn't win the gold because they had a teammate who didn't fit the Age Qualifications but because nothing was said about it. Zip! (By all means, 1996 team USA deserved the gold and they deserve all the recognition they received. I'm not trying to take that away..I'm trying to be realistic here.)

#4 - "China (in women's gymnastic) cheated this year!"
Did they? How? I'm curious on how this is possible! Because they look young? Is that why they cheated because that makes no sense whatsoever! Please, if you have a reason that's not mentioned...feel free to explain!

#5 - "USA (or other countries) are better build to fit a gymnist!"
I'm sorry...is there a body type qualification, too? Because I'm sure that regardless the body type or how much/less muscles China had, they still beat USA. Again, are people really giving lame excuses? Why?!

#6 - "USA are sore losers!!! They're just jealous because their precious team got silver!"
There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting the silver and Team USA clearly know why they did not receive the gold. Watch their interview after the medal ceremony and they even revealed that China deserved the gold. Anyone who watched the Finals know why Team China received that gold and if you're unsure...watch it again when you get a chance! Google 'Olympics' and click on the link that the network nbc specially made for the Olympics. They have clips from the Finals there, too, including Team USA's interview after receiving the silver medal!

#7 - "The Chinese won this year because of terrible human rights against young kids in gymnastics?"
Don't assume if you don't know the facts! People tend to believe that parents FORCE their kids to be in the gymnastics and undoubtedly, I'm sure some have but not all. Some believe that it's a good opportunity for these children to be active in gymnastics, learn young, and hopefully receive recognition for it--eventually join the Olympics team! That's any athlete's dream at some point or another! Gymnastics in China and surely, other parts of the world are not always so negative and people need to realize that these kids grow to love gymnastics and it's their drive and perseverance that keeps them going! They also accomplish many things that we could only hope for at such a young age!




Add a #8 (and so on) if you have found or read an allegations that you found interesting or completely ridiculous and ignorant!
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I think it's nutts that they allow childeren from age 14+ to compete in the Olympics :S Sweden has a 14 year old swimmer too, I think the age is Way to low, imo they sould be at least 18 years to compete in the Olympics
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nutty @_@
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Posted 8/13/08 , edited 8/13/08
not the most attractive bunch. i like the american gymnasts better lulz
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Posted 8/13/08
Well, age shouldn't matter in the Olympics. If you're good at gymnastics than you should be allowed in. Geez.
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axbabe04u wrote:

Add a #8 (and so on) if you have found or read an allegations that you found interesting or completely ridiculous and ignorant!


Now they blame stadium staff for causing the US to lose .
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=afp-oly2008gymnasticswomenteamusa&prov=afp&type=lgns
Posted 8/13/08
I don't think it matters it's w/e for me, rules were meant to be broken anyways
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Posted 8/13/08 , edited 8/13/08

Bamubii wrote:

I think it's nutts that they allow childeren from age 14+ to compete in the Olympics :S Sweden has a 14 year old swimmer too, I think the age is Way to low, imo they sould be at least 18 years to compete in the Olympics



#8 - Age Qualifications should increase!
Actually, if you ask gymnist or a gymnist specialist regarding Age Qualification, most will tell you that they wish that Age Qualifications should decrease because they believe that as a gymnists body get older, their ability tends to decrease as well at a rate that various with each gymnist--depending on their training etc. In addition, having a larger age limit (18+) allows a higher possibility in injuries during that time that may possibly result in an Olympic disqualification. If this happen, depending on the injury, they will have to continue training for the next 4 years until the next Olympics but 4 years is a long time for a gymnist and increases the chances for other injuries.

The reason why Age Qualifications exist today is to avoid excess training to young gymnist and to avoid having gymnist retire before the age of 18-20 due to injuries. So in a way, it's a gabling situation where a gymnist has to constantly be aware of injuries but due to those possible injuries, it's better to start young and take your chances while your body is at its peak rather than waiting until you're age is qualified to join the Olympics. Personally, I think that it's better to decrease the Age Qualifications to the age of 14. This way if a gymnist get injured that will not allow he or she to participate in the Olympics, they will have a better use of those 4 years before the next Olympics! And if they get injured again, they could still continue with the next 4 years giving them an 8-year plan. Makes sense?

I'm not too sure about how it is with the other Olympic sports such as swimming though but one thing is for sure, Michael Phelps entered the Olympics at a young age and because of his trainings and experience, he's becoming a swim legend!


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