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Posted 8/22/08

mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!
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World War 3 ^_^, naaa it will not happen in that circumstance


it really may happen(
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Posted 8/22/08 , edited 8/22/08

lonely_cat wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!


U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. GEORGIA KILLED CIVILAINS FIRST not soldiers CIVILIAINS like me and you while everyone was at he olympics it was said about 1000-2000 not sure. Russia defended the people of South Ossetia how is Russia wrong for defending. And what in Gods name was Georgia thinking to go up against Russia like that?
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Posted 8/22/08 , edited 8/22/08

drizza wrote:


lonely_cat wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!


U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. GEORGIA KILLED CIVILAINS FIRST not soldiers CIVILIAINS like me and you while everyone was at he olympics it was said about 1000-2000 not sure. Russia defended the people of South Ossetia how is Russia wrong for defending. And what in Gods name was Georgia thinking to go up against Russia like that?


I beg to differ dude!

Russia is somehow similar to U.S. intervening many conflicts just like how U.S. intervened the war in Yugoslavia years before and look at Russia, it has sent many combatants in the conflict and in my opinion, I think Russia must not intervene the conflict because it will only increase civilian deaths just like what happened during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Russians are still IMPERIALISTS as of today even after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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ok hey i posted this up and yea i think Geogria was stupid to attack south ottesia and yes Russia did overreact sum..idk too crazy and honestly WW3 isn't goin to happen and besides over here in America like they don't even talk about on the news...hmm i wonder why? if u want to talk more abt this hit me up k?and thanks again for all the responses!appreciate it!
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it seems more likely to me that the sopposed cyber attack on georgia wa done by hackers on steroids due to the fact that it was vandalism with hitler stuff and DDOS attacks, although i guess one flaw in my theory is no yellow vans were blown up... might not have even happened at all, but lol...


WOW, pools closed due to aids. lol jk
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Posted 8/23/08

drizza wrote:


lonely_cat wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!


U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. GEORGIA KILLED CIVILAINS FIRST not soldiers CIVILIAINS like me and you while everyone was at he olympics it was said about 1000-2000 not sure. Russia defended the people of South Ossetia how is Russia wrong for defending. And what in Gods name was Georgia thinking to go up against Russia like that?


do u really think that russian news DON'T say that ?
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Posted 8/23/08

Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


lonely_cat wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!


U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. GEORGIA KILLED CIVILAINS FIRST not soldiers CIVILIAINS like me and you while everyone was at he olympics it was said about 1000-2000 not sure. Russia defended the people of South Ossetia how is Russia wrong for defending. And what in Gods name was Georgia thinking to go up against Russia like that?


I beg to differ dude!

Russia is somehow similar to U.S. intervening many conflicts just like how U.S. intervened the war in Yugoslavia years before and look at Russia, it has sent many combatants in the conflict and in my opinion, I think Russia must not intervene the conflict because it will only increase civilian deaths just like what happened during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Russians are still IMPERIALISTS as of today even after the collapse of the Soviet Union.


Dude I am sorry but what the hell do you mean intervene? 90% of South Ossetia is Russian so they are defending their civilians. If New York is attacked by China you dont want the US to intervene I am just trying to see what you are talking about here.
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Posted 8/23/08

drizza wrote:


Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


lonely_cat wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!


U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. GEORGIA KILLED CIVILAINS FIRST not soldiers CIVILIAINS like me and you while everyone was at he olympics it was said about 1000-2000 not sure. Russia defended the people of South Ossetia how is Russia wrong for defending. And what in Gods name was Georgia thinking to go up against Russia like that?


I beg to differ dude!

Russia is somehow similar to U.S. intervening many conflicts just like how U.S. intervened the war in Yugoslavia years before and look at Russia, it has sent many combatants in the conflict and in my opinion, I think Russia must not intervene the conflict because it will only increase civilian deaths just like what happened during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Russians are still IMPERIALISTS as of today even after the collapse of the Soviet Union.


Dude I am sorry but what the hell do you mean intervene? 90% of South Ossetia is Russian so they are defending their civilians. If New York is attacked by China you dont want the US to intervene I am just trying to see what you are talking about here.


66% of South Ossetia are native Ossetians dude!29.0% of South Ossetia are Georgians and Russians are minority as of today dude!
Russia has no right to defend Ossetia because they fear Georgians will defeat them!
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Posted 8/23/08 , edited 8/23/08

Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


lonely_cat wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!


U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. GEORGIA KILLED CIVILAINS FIRST not soldiers CIVILIAINS like me and you while everyone was at he olympics it was said about 1000-2000 not sure. Russia defended the people of South Ossetia how is Russia wrong for defending. And what in Gods name was Georgia thinking to go up against Russia like that?


I beg to differ dude!

Russia is somehow similar to U.S. intervening many conflicts just like how U.S. intervened the war in Yugoslavia years before and look at Russia, it has sent many combatants in the conflict and in my opinion, I think Russia must not intervene the conflict because it will only increase civilian deaths just like what happened during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Russians are still IMPERIALISTS as of today even after the collapse of the Soviet Union.


Dude I am sorry but what the hell do you mean intervene? 90% of South Ossetia is Russian so they are defending their civilians. If New York is attacked by China you dont want the US to intervene I am just trying to see what you are talking about here.


66% of South Ossetia are native Ossetians dude!29.0% of South Ossetia are Georgians and Russians are minority as of today dude!
Russia has no right to defend Ossetia because they fear Georgians will defeat them!


Dunno where you got those statistics from but where I got mine from is from the bias mainstream media that airs on our television 24 7. And why are you justifying or ignoring Georgia killing innocent civilians that started this mess? Why is Georgia being let off easily for starting this war?
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Posted 8/23/08 , edited 8/23/08

drizza wrote:


Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


lonely_cat wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!


U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. GEORGIA KILLED CIVILAINS FIRST not soldiers CIVILIAINS like me and you while everyone was at he olympics it was said about 1000-2000 not sure. Russia defended the people of South Ossetia how is Russia wrong for defending. And what in Gods name was Georgia thinking to go up against Russia like that?


I beg to differ dude!

Russia is somehow similar to U.S. intervening many conflicts just like how U.S. intervened the war in Yugoslavia years before and look at Russia, it has sent many combatants in the conflict and in my opinion, I think Russia must not intervene the conflict because it will only increase civilian deaths just like what happened during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Russians are still IMPERIALISTS as of today even after the collapse of the Soviet Union.


Dude I am sorry but what the hell do you mean intervene? 90% of South Ossetia is Russian so they are defending their civilians. If New York is attacked by China you dont want the US to intervene I am just trying to see what you are talking about here.


66% of South Ossetia are native Ossetians dude!29.0% of South Ossetia are Georgians and Russians are minority as of today dude!
Russia has no right to defend Ossetia because they fear Georgians will defeat them!


Dunno where you got those statistics from but where I got mine from is from the bias mainstream media that airs on our television 24 7. And why are you justifying or ignoring Georgia killing innocent civilians that started this mess? Why is Georgia being let off easily for starting this war?


You said in your earlier posts that "U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. "
Mainstream are SOMETIMES cannot be trusted!And now you believe in mainstream media?
For example if 90% of France are Germans,do they constitute the native population?No.
Because they are not the native ethnic group in the country.
Russia attacking a very very small country like Georgia is similar to a situation where a big whale attacking a small seal.
Russians are still imperialists as of today and Georgians are fighting for their own territorial integrity.
Russians are contributing to instability in the region added by the growing Chechen insurgency.
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Posted 8/23/08 , edited 8/23/08

Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


lonely_cat wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!


U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. GEORGIA KILLED CIVILAINS FIRST not soldiers CIVILIAINS like me and you while everyone was at he olympics it was said about 1000-2000 not sure. Russia defended the people of South Ossetia how is Russia wrong for defending. And what in Gods name was Georgia thinking to go up against Russia like that?


I beg to differ dude!

Russia is somehow similar to U.S. intervening many conflicts just like how U.S. intervened the war in Yugoslavia years before and look at Russia, it has sent many combatants in the conflict and in my opinion, I think Russia must not intervene the conflict because it will only increase civilian deaths just like what happened during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Russians are still IMPERIALISTS as of today even after the collapse of the Soviet Union.


Dude I am sorry but what the hell do you mean intervene? 90% of South Ossetia is Russian so they are defending their civilians. If New York is attacked by China you dont want the US to intervene I am just trying to see what you are talking about here.


66% of South Ossetia are native Ossetians dude!29.0% of South Ossetia are Georgians and Russians are minority as of today dude!
Russia has no right to defend Ossetia because they fear Georgians will defeat them!


Dunno where you got those statistics from but where I got mine from is from the bias mainstream media that airs on our television 24 7. And why are you justifying or ignoring Georgia killing innocent civilians that started this mess? Why is Georgia being let off easily for starting this war?


You said in your earlier posts that "U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. "
Mainstream are SOMETIMES cannot be trusted!And now you believe in mainstream media?
For example if 90% of France are Germans,do they constitute the native population?No.
Because they are not the native ethnic group in the country.
Russia attacking a very very small country like Georgia is similar to a situation where a big whale attacking a small seal.
Russians are still imperialists as of today and Georgians are fighting for their own territorial integrity.
Russians are contributing to instability in the region added by the growing Chechen insurgency.


No I am saying this because I know you watch west mainstream media so I am giving you something you can relate to. And your still ignoring my question your not even stating the fact that Georgia attacked kiled and displaced civilians first are they right for doing this? Should Russia just stand by and watch as their civilians get killed? Why are you blaming Russia for saving them? Who gave Georgia the authority to kill civilians and why isnt his condemned in the west? Who the hell is bush to tell Russia to stop bulling seriously? Russia would have never striked Georgia if it wasnt for them attacking first.

If Iran was a powerfull country and decided to attack mexico or canada would USA just stand by and watch as they fall so they can surround our country? God man there is too many double standards.

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Posted 8/23/08 , edited 8/23/08

drizza wrote:


Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


Eudd_Edwards wrote:


drizza wrote:


lonely_cat wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:


mikejacobs wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

lies!


It is true, Georgia is the aggressor against South Ossetia, which is inside Russian Territory but the problem is that Russia is self-defending in a way that is a lil excessive >>


well i do like putin



Meh, hes all right, just a lil clutchy when it comes to power ^^ but he did put Russia back on the map


wow.haven't u seen it there before? anyway guys u shouldn't think of it too much!i'm russian and i can say that both (georgia and russia)are wrong!!!the president of first1 is crazy,the people of 2 are way too agressive!!!
russian soldiers who were supposed 2 keep peace there are attacking commoners and destroy villages!!!believe me,i know it 4 sure!
if u want 2 talk about this u should at least watch news from different sources!!!i watch russian,ukrainian,american and english channels and do understand something about!


U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. GEORGIA KILLED CIVILAINS FIRST not soldiers CIVILIAINS like me and you while everyone was at he olympics it was said about 1000-2000 not sure. Russia defended the people of South Ossetia how is Russia wrong for defending. And what in Gods name was Georgia thinking to go up against Russia like that?


I beg to differ dude!

Russia is somehow similar to U.S. intervening many conflicts just like how U.S. intervened the war in Yugoslavia years before and look at Russia, it has sent many combatants in the conflict and in my opinion, I think Russia must not intervene the conflict because it will only increase civilian deaths just like what happened during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Russians are still IMPERIALISTS as of today even after the collapse of the Soviet Union.


Dude I am sorry but what the hell do you mean intervene? 90% of South Ossetia is Russian so they are defending their civilians. If New York is attacked by China you dont want the US to intervene I am just trying to see what you are talking about here.


66% of South Ossetia are native Ossetians dude!29.0% of South Ossetia are Georgians and Russians are minority as of today dude!
Russia has no right to defend Ossetia because they fear Georgians will defeat them!


Dunno where you got those statistics from but where I got mine from is from the bias mainstream media that airs on our television 24 7. And why are you justifying or ignoring Georgia killing innocent civilians that started this mess? Why is Georgia being let off easily for starting this war?


You said in your earlier posts that "U tell is to watch different news sources but your still spewing the same propoganda seen in main stream media in the west. "
Mainstream are SOMETIMES cannot be trusted!And now you believe in mainstream media?
For example if 90% of France are Germans,do they constitute the native population?No.
Because they are not the native ethnic group in the country.
Russia attacking a very very small country like Georgia is similar to a situation where a big whale attacking a small seal.
Russians are still imperialists as of today and Georgians are fighting for their own territorial integrity.
Russians are contributing to instability in the region added by the growing Chechen insurgency.


No I am saying this because I know you watch west mainstream media so I am giving you something you can relate to. And your still ignoring my question your not even stating the fact that Georgia attacked kiled and displaced civilians first are they right for doing this? Should Russia just stand by and watch as their civilians get killed? Why are you blaming Russia for saving them? Who gave Georgia the authority to kill civilians and why isnt his condemned in the west? Who the hell is bush to tell Russia to stop bulling seriously? Russia would have never striked Georgia if it wasnt for them attacking first.

If Iran was a powerfull country and decided to attack mexico or canada would USA just stand by and watch as they fall so they can surround our country? God man there is too many double standards.




You know what, Mexico and Canada are just too large for Iran to attack and plus there are deserts and mountains where it's inhabitants can hide and they had their own forces to defend unlike Georgia which is to small and it's inhabitants would instead fled to other countries which I can call diaspora.
My answer to your question:
Russia are using aggressive actions against Georgia.
Yes I condemn Georgia's actions for killing innocent civilians but I condemn Russia more for interfering the conflict and I think there are other reasons why Russia is intervening with Georgia's affairs.
As of August 2008, Putin announced that it's troops will withdraw.
On August 19, Reuters reported that the Kremlin had said that Russian troops would pull back from Georgia's heartland by the end of the week. A Russian officer said that "today we can say that the process has started," although the withdrawal from Gori might be slowed down by badly congested roads. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said he expected the withdrawal to pre-conflict positions to be completed within three to four days. As of the 19th, Russian checkpoints still blocked the main east-west highway linking Tbilisi with Georgia's Black Sea ports. Also on the 19th, President Dmitry Medvedev also said that by August 22 Russia would pull its troops in Georgia back to the positions set out in a French-brokered ceasefire agreement. Also on the 19th, the BBC reported that Medvedev had told his French President Nicolas Sarkozy that the pull-out would be complete by 21-22 August, with the exception of some 500 troops, who would be installed in peacekeeping posts on either side of South Ossetia's border.

Response to Russia's intervention:
Russia faced strong criticism from the US, UK, and "New Europe" where Vice President Dick Cheney stated "Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and that its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States, as well as the broader international community.

Russia had committed many interventions and human rights abuses on Georgia and other ethnic groups.
Ossetian–Ingush conflict where 60,000 Ingush and few Ossetians were killed or injured due to the Russian army.
My question is:
Does Russia justify it's actions or not?or do they really want to dominate Caucasus again?
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Dude what arent you understanding the majority of the population in South Ossetia have Russian passports 95-99% support the breakway from Georgia so Russia see's them as technically their civilians but this doesnt give Georgia any right to attack them. It is laughable that u would quote Dick Cheney saying "Russian aggression must not go unanswered." I suppose the USA and Israel aggression is perfectly ok. All that you cited I have read and of course they would condem Russia because Georgia is a US ally and US has been pushing hard for Georgia to join Nato. So of course you will see slants but again all that you read from reuters completly ignore the the reason why this whole mess started. Russia civilains killed in South Ossetia, Russia comes to the rescue although aggressive I condemn that but they are saving their people. IF RUSSIA WOULDNT COME WHO WOULD?

Russia is not doing anything to dominate nothing thats the USA trying to surround her with Nato allies and building missle defence around her. Dont you find this just a little odd at how the USA is treating this situation and how the Georgian president comes on air down right lieing saying, "The Russian attacked us because we are a democracy." But he completly ignores what he has done. Georgia was down right wrong Russia had every right to defend those people. You need to understand because your blaming Russia for saving people from a possible ethnic cleansing by Georgia.
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drizza wrote:

Dude what arent you understanding the majority of the population in South Ossetia is Russian most of them have Russian passports (80-90% i will find that source later on but it is out there). It is laughable that u would quote Dick Cheney saying "Russian aggression must not go unanswered." I suppose the USA and Israel aggression is perfectly ok. All that you cited I have read and of course they would condem Russia because Georgia is a US ally and US has been pushing hard for Georgia to join Nato. So of course you will see slants but again all that you read from reuters completly ignore the the reason why this whole mess started. Russia civilains killed in South Ossetia, Russia comes to the rescue although aggressive I condemn that but they are saving their people. IF RUSSIA WOULDNT COME WHO WOULD?

Russia is not doing anything to dominate nothing thats the USA trying to surround her with Nato allies and building missle defence around her. Dont you find this just a little odd at how the USA is treating this situation and how the Georgian president comes on air down right lieing saying, "The Russian attacked us because we are a democracy." But he completly ignores what he has done. Georgia was down right wrong Russia had every right to defend those people.


I have a question.
Then it was ok for Russia to attack the Chechen civilians during the Chechen war?
I think I would expect logical answer.
Attacking of civilians will only increase insurgency as well as attacking the nation's territory.
Just remember the Beslan hostage taking during 2004.
Russia and Soviet Union are no different to each other.
And please don't use Israel and U.S. as an example because we are going way off-topic.
The Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan led to the birth of Al-Qaeda.
Cold War will not end if Russia will not justify it's actions.
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