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A solution to the explosion of new Crunchyroll users
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wat about when someone joins they get like 2 months free, then after that u have to pay, and to stop people from bypassing put up an ip recognizer thingy
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moomoo wrote:

wat about when someone joins they get like 2 months free, then after that u have to pay, and to stop people from bypassing put up an ip recognizer thingy


why did i make crunchyroll?
i created this site for me and my friends so it would be easy for us to share our videos with each other, but they leaked to other people and its grown into something i never really expected ^_^ hopefully, crunchyroll can help spread anime and create fans around the world.


He didn't make it to be a pay site. If he wanted that I'm pretty sure he would've done it from the start, after all, money is money. I find that solution horrible because the whole reason everyone likes this site is because its free and amazing. And those who CAN spare money do so by donating. Forcing people to pay would completely destroy the site, not to mention making people pay for unlicensed videos is immoral, maybe even illegal.


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He didn't make it to be a pay site. If he wanted that I'm pretty sure he would've done it from the start, after all, money is money. I find that solution horrible because the whole reason everyone likes this site is because its free and amazing. And those who CAN spare money do so by donating. Forcing people to pay would completely destroy the site, not to mention making people pay for unlicensed videos is immoral, maybe even illegal.




how is making people pay going to destroy the site? maybe at most itll shrink drastically. People would leav yes, but some would stay, the community would be smaller and more managable etc. Besides this is just a suggestion, as everyone has. As for money u do realise it takes money to run this rite? and that the more people add these FREE vids the more money it costs shinji. He made the site member only once because he ran out of cash, whos to say it cant hapen again especially with all this amv crap people upload and stuff. And just because U cant pay for something doesnt make it illegal
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moomoo wrote:

He didn't make it to be a pay site. If he wanted that I'm pretty sure he would've done it from the start, after all, money is money. I find that solution horrible because the whole reason everyone likes this site is because its free and amazing. And those who CAN spare money do so by donating. Forcing people to pay would completely destroy the site, not to mention making people pay for unlicensed videos is immoral, maybe even illegal.




how is making people pay going to destroy the site? maybe at most itll shrink drastically. People would leav yes, but some would stay, the community would be smaller and more managable etc. Besides this is just a suggestion, as everyone has. As for money u do realise it takes money to run this rite? and that the more people add these FREE vids the more money it costs shinji. He made the site member only once because he ran out of cash, whos to say it cant hapen again especially with all this amv crap people upload and stuff. And just because U cant pay for something doesnt make it illegal


A. Just as your post was a suggestion, mine was an opinion, don't bash on me for having one too.

B. Yes, some people would stay, but would it be worth it? Looking at why Shinji made it and what he wants to happen I think his last resort would be to make the community small.

C. Yes, I do realize it takes money to run this. Thats why there are adds, donations and download money. I run my own server, I realize it costs money. And, as a computer science major I realize the effort it takes to run it too.

D. The more people that add doesn't necessarily mean the more money it will cost him. Only if he needs an upgrade in bandwidth. Its not like every time youtube gets a video they go "Crap, now we gotta spend more money!"

E. No, its not the fact that I can't pay for something that makes it illegal. Its the fact that he'd technically be selling it them, where it isn't his to own. Its like me trying to sell my downloaded "Children of Men" video or whatever. Its not mine to sell. Plus, I said maybe about that, I'm not 100% sure if its illegal or not. Read more into my post.

F. I've been here longer than you and Shinji has never made this a pay-only site. Membership is only needed to watch the videos. You don't need to pay for membership. If you're referring to:

"Edited by shinji
update:

hi guys!

wow lots of complaints =( just to make it clear, i wasn't trying to make cr a paid site. i was in a crunch (no pun intended ;P) for bandwidth, so i had to disable videos for everyone but gave priority to past supporters.

but the good news is, i've sorted some things out in terms of bandwidth cost, and have renabled videos for everyone!

i want to reiterate that i want to make cr a fun place for people to hang out, talk about anime, and watch videos, but please PLEASE no licensed content!

~shinji"

That doesn't make it a pay-only site, he said it himself and once again, that was due to bandwidth, which I already stated.
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I'm beginning to think that kyocool's idea would be the most practical way...*evil laughs*
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1). NO GENOCIDE!!! bad bad bad!!! ...tempti-- I MEAN NO!!!

2). No deleting people's account or unused videos will not help bandwith (or in any case explosion of members)

The bandwith is only used when people start watching the videos, hosting them isn't too much of a hassle.

3). No CR will NEVER force you to pay to view content. That seriously should be a no brainer. CR does not own the content but only supplies unlicensed content. The money is DONATION AND COMPLETELY OPTIONAL!! (note the optional pls)

4). this is all PURELY hypothetical!! Don't bash anyones idea! *cougH*
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i actually don't know where to side this debate of making cr an elitist group...on the one hand ive only joined this site on january 2007 and have been almost here everyday and from the start i didn't mind donating a few pounds to help out...i wasn't forced, i donated coz i love this site too much to let it die....
but u can't really delete people's accounts just becoz they can't or won't donate or becoz they haven't been here a long time. people do have time off from watching animes and dramas...which is possible for every single one of us...plus this site is supposedly to make animes and dramas more accessible to the masses...putting a limit on how many vids people can watch a day or a week is a more plausible idea as sumone mentioned in an earlier post...at least then people won't be sitting in front of their laptops all night trying to finish a complete series (like i do!)
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queenbee wrote:

i actually don't know where to side this debate of making cr an elitist group...on the one hand ive only joined this site on january 2007 and have been almost here everyday and from the start i didn't mind donating a few pounds to help out...i wasn't forced, i donated coz i love this site too much to let it die....
but u can't really delete people's accounts just becoz they can't or won't donate or becoz they haven't been here a long time. people do have time off from watching animes and dramas...which is possible for every single one of us...plus this site is supposedly to make animes and dramas more accessible to the masses...putting a limit on how many vids people can watch a day or a week is a more plausible idea as sumone mentioned in an earlier post...at least then people won't be sitting in front of their laptops all night trying to finish a complete series (like i do!)


What if they havent log in for 1 year straight?
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What if they're studying abroad for a year in a foreign country? It was stated before, it really doesn't take up anything to have an idle account. Maybe a little bit of memory, but who knows. Overall, Shinji will be the deciding factor anyway.
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or they immigrated to one of those islands without internet connection....or went to the war zones in the middle east....or they went back to their 'real life' as opposed to their 'internet' life....or they had a baby....or they have to do a dissertation for uni....hmmm...the possibilities are endless. u never know what's life going to throw at u next u kno!
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^^ Exactly my point =P Anyway, I don't think it'd be a necessity to delete accounts anyway. But hey, I'm no Shinji. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out.
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I think if he made this strictly a pay site that would deter advertisers, which is where I imagine alot of the money keeping this place running is coming from. But I suppose he makes more per person from those of us who donate, so it must be an interesting balance. If we all donated, would that be enough to cover everything? I've never ran a site so I have no idea about these sorts of things. It would be interesting to see a financial summary of the goings on of this site, just what money comes from where and how much everything costs. I think someone posted the traffic a while back and it's been climbing for quite a while.

I don't know Shinji, but from what I've heard about him I don't think he'd ever make this a pay only site. In fact, I think the site would end up getting shut down before that happens. He genuinely seems to be a nice guy and isn't in this for the money in the least - he's just trying to keep this place up and running.

Big thing is people, if you like CR and want it to stick around, donate. You don't have to be 18 with a credit card to donate anymore. You can send cash, money orders, paypal, or do it by proxy through other supporters. 6 bucks a month is something even an average high schooler can afford. Like I said before, that's about as much as it costs to eat fast food anymore. I'm sure some of you have legitimate financial reasons you can't donate, but if you can afford a computer and internet access, I have a hard time beleiving you're really that strapped for cash (let alone have the time to sit around and watch anime online). Anyone over 18 and out of high school has zero excuses in my book.

All that and the high quality full screen vids are really worth the investment aside from the knowledge you'd be supporting your community
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Is that Al Gore's CO2 graph?
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azrael910 wrote:

I think if he made this strictly a pay site that would deter advertisers, which is where I imagine alot of the money keeping this place running is coming from.
The only thing advertisers care about is how big the exposure their products/adverts will get.

I'm hoping CR wouldn't have to rely heavily on advertisements cos advertisers are basically control freaks.
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