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Reasons why you doubt "GOD"
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Well, I don't doubt GOD...

Coz I know HE really exists and he is always with me...

And HE always guides me in every things in my life...
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well around here i have a naggy and very religious christian hanging around me and he just wont stop trying to convert me.. always saying things like "let jesus into your heart for salvation" and ive noticed alot of people who get depressed when they have their god questioned so ya i cant really help but have that opinion

[note i havnt gone to church myself this is only what i hear] not only cults.. even today official churchs will ask for donations from everyone and in return simply preach and hold activities.. and from what i know of its even worse in the past.. though ill admit this, religion, even if fake, can be used to unite ppl.. though being an atheist i cant be sure if its correct or not to unite using those methods

im all for trying to redeem myself if i do something mean to another but that depends.. sadly if im asked to redeem myself for a reason i dont think i should for a man i dont know, even if it means hell i doubt i could do it..

anyway ya see what happens~ only surefire way to know about things and what to do about em. till then, each their own
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dontknowz wrote:

well around here i have a naggy and very religious christian hanging around me and he just wont stop trying to convert me.. always saying things like "let jesus into your heart for salvation" and ive noticed alot of people who get depressed when they have their god questioned so ya i cant really help but have that opinion


[note i havnt gone to church myself this is only what i hear] not only cults.. even today official churchs will ask for donations fro`m everyone and in return simply preach and hold activities.. and from what i know of its even worse in the past.. though ill admit this, religion, even if fake, can be used to unite ppl.. though being an atheist i cant be sure if its correct or not to unite using those methods

im all for trying to redeem myself if i do something mean to another but that depends.. sadly if im asked to redeem myself for a reason i dont think i should for a man i dont know, even if it means hell i doubt i could do it..

anyway ya see what happens~ only surefire way to know about things and what to do about em. till then, each their own


If you have rejected that person's advances a lot of times, I think that he or she should respect that and leave the subject be. Even Christ mentioned:

Matthew 10:14 (New International Version)
14If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

I hope that person really sincerely prays and cares for you rather than trying to get some brownie points for converting someone. If he or she really does believe in a "GOD," then faith should be have that someday you can be saved, rather than being forced fed.


If I wasn't a Christian, then I most likely ended up as a Nihilist, not Atheist. Too extreme right?

Well, that is your decision. I hope that you may change that someday.


If I thought my friend was going to hell I would not stop trying to save them. Would you let a drunk friend drive when you know it would turn out badly? No, and allowing someone to stumble into hell is much worse.
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i don't believe in God.for one,he has never been proven to exist.if things happen for a reason,then why is there war?is there a reason for that?plus,no one has ever seen,or heard God without unfailing proof.so then why must i believe in God?people who have ever revealed that God has spoken to them...where in the world would they find proof.i mean,i could say that God has spoken to me,but as i am a child,will anyone believe me?i'm not that religious,being lazy to go to temple(as my entire family is Buddhist).i hate religious stuff.and for those reasons too.
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Lack of evidence.
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YouAreDumb wrote:


If I thought my friend was going to hell I would not stop trying to save them. Would you let a drunk friend drive when you know it would turn out badly? No, and allowing someone to stumble into hell is much worse.


keeping someone from driving drunk and converting someone to keep em outa hell are totally different >> sure they sound the same if said like that but lets say each problem and then compare them

1.guy wont give the keys to his drunk friend out of fear he'll crash and die like millions have already

2. guy bothers his friend to convert into a believer, who must pray, rely and believe in the image of god who no one can prove actually exists in anyway, and maybe go to church his entire life all for the sake of avoiding a hell which might not even exist.. and to boot the person hes trying to convert every day doesnt give a crap anyway.. i can speak from exp when i say trying to do something like that only makes the 'friend' wanna smack him silly

and one last thing.. i use the term 'friend' very loosely since i dont have another nice name to call him
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Simple: there's no definite proof. That isn't to say that I don't believe in God. I just have doubts in the existence of God. I don't want to go by faith alone; faith is a generally beautiful thing, but faith, like beauty, can be blinding. I also don't want to go by personal experience. My personal experiences with deity, just like most others can be easily and logically written off as delirium or temporary madness.

I do nearly entirely doubt the existence of the "perfect" Western concept of God (omnipotent, omnipresent, omni-benevolent/all-loving, eternal, perfectly just and personal). The idea of it is not only too mind-blowing to me (yes, I'm admitting that the concept is overwhelming and that that is a factor in my disbelief), but, upon further consideration, pretty difficult to logically believe in. How is one truly all-loving and capable of punishing the wicked (being perfectly just)? Why doesn't he prevent wickedness directly, rather than through moral messages (scripture), and in doing so spare the innocent of becoming victims and those with inclinations towards wickedness from becoming condemned? I understand the stance on free will and God wanting us to chose "him", but for me, that then contradicts personal god condition. God would still show up to every one of us in ways that we couldn't ignore (yes, people would still reject following God then; don't be so presumptuous to say no one would under those conditions) to encourage, but not force us into believing "his" existence. Then there's the classic question of, "could God make a rock he cannot lift?" and so on and so forth.

Personally, I think all the "qualifiers" of a perfect Western God really traps divinity in a box of definitions more than anything. I think that if divinity exists, then it just is, and we shouldn't really make worldly definitions of it. I believe I said it before in ED; "A God defined is a God confined".
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i don't believe in god because they keep saying that god is near you and stuff. i mean, if god really can hear our wishes, then why are there beggars on the streets??? and people keep saying that god is always with you...if so, where is he/she? there's no proof that god even exists! people might say: he/she is in our hearts! if that's the case, let's cut your heart open and check. we can be definite if we do that. with no proof to support the belief of god! and anyways, even though they have been saying stuff like this, why don't they show proof? for me, i am certain that there is no god out there because there is not immortals!!! if there was, wouldn't we all be one too?

and to all christains: do not take this offensively- i am merely stating my point of view and therefore, you can not do anything but to argue.
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If you look at history, you will see that the stories of the Bible are truly accurate.


umm no offense, but it is true that jesus rose from the grave? if so, why can't we?

do not take that offensively! im just stating my doubts!!
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d3moNbaN3 wrote:


fishingsucks9 wrote:


d3moNbaN3 wrote:


fishingsucks9 wrote:

There is no core evidence of an existence of a god. The bible is not considered evidence, and it could just be written by people on acid.

Now check this out.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/960407.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-525993/Moses-high-hallucinogenic-drug-received-Ten-Commandments-claims-academic.html

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW


true the bible only has depictions of many things for the sake of STORY and teaching a LESSON. none of these things really did happen. Noah and the Ark is just all fake, and it was also adapted to the legend of Gilgamesh as a god (correct me if im wrong) called Utnapishtim.


Vouch.


the bible is to vouch enough. "all of the bible is true. and some of it even happened."


wai-i-i-i-it... "all of the bible is true. and some of it even happened." if all of it is true, then everything must've happened, right? y u say "some"??? see, this is why i always had many doubts about god. and i chose at birth to not be a christian.
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zendude wrote:

Well, I am just curious on what people will say on this one.

By "GOD," I mean supernatural beings and the divine.

By doubt, it can mean deny, skeptical, hate, disdain, disregard, etc. Pick your favorite or use another synonym.

Please refrain from having too much flaming and brow-beating.

Note: I am a Contemporary Christian. I am not trying to convert anybody. I respect everyone's opinions, and I believe that we have a choice on what to believe in.


(i know im sry, i posted too much in this forum. ban me if u want) im just wondering, that how come god can rise from the dead? i've never touched a bible ( and don't plan to) , but i heard that jesus rose from the grave, right?
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Ahh oops. Christina typed too much. I apologize for her. She's been obsessed with this forum...I have no idea why.
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loveanimeeverywhere wrote:


zendude wrote:

Well, I am just curious on what people will say on this one.

By "GOD," I mean supernatural beings and the divine.

By doubt, it can mean deny, skeptical, hate, disdain, disregard, etc. Pick your favorite or use another synonym.

Please refrain from having too much flaming and brow-beating.

Note: I am a Contemporary Christian. I am not trying to convert anybody. I respect everyone's opinions, and I believe that we have a choice on what to believe in.


(i know im sry, i posted too much in this forum. ban me if u want) im just wondering, that how come god can rise from the dead? i've never touched a bible ( and don't plan to) , but i heard that jesus rose from the grave, right?


you know, you can put everything in one post, that's all.

How Jesus rose from grave? He jump with china-zombie style

I don't know, ask Jesus. However, if you don't believe, just forget it.....
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tweety_cool wrote:


loveanimeeverywhere wrote:


zendude wrote:

Well, I am just curious on what people will say on this one.

By "GOD," I mean supernatural beings and the divine.

By doubt, it can mean deny, skeptical, hate, disdain, disregard, etc. Pick your favorite or use another synonym.

Please refrain from having too much flaming and brow-beating.

Note: I am a Contemporary Christian. I am not trying to convert anybody. I respect everyone's opinions, and I believe that we have a choice on what to believe in.


(i know im sry, i posted too much in this forum. ban me if u want) im just wondering, that how come god can rise from the dead? i've never touched a bible ( and don't plan to) , but i heard that jesus rose from the grave, right?


you know, you can put everything in one post, that's all.

How Jesus rose from grave? He jump with china-zombie style

I don't know, ask Jesus. However, if you don't believe, just forget it.....


^_^ its okay. im not christian, but i respect the belief of god...
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zendude wrote:


loveanimeeverywhere wrote:


zendude wrote:

Well, I am just curious on what people will say on this one.

By "GOD," I mean supernatural beings and the divine.

By doubt, it can mean deny, skeptical, hate, disdain, disregard, etc. Pick your favorite or use another synonym.

Please refrain from having too much flaming and brow-beating.

Note: I am a Contemporary Christian. I am not trying to convert anybody. I respect everyone's opinions, and I believe that we have a choice on what to believe in.


(i know im sry, i posted too much in this forum. ban me if u want) im just wondering, that how come god can rise from the dead? i've never touched a bible ( and don't plan to) , but i heard that jesus rose from the grave, right?


As a Christian, believing that Christ rose from the dead is key to the faith. I could discuss this, but please go to another thread to know more.


No it's okay. Thank you.
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