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Is killing a person, that killed a person.. okay?
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Posted 8/22/08
nope
i mean ok someone kills a persons family
the murderer is caught and executed
that doesnt make the persons family come back
that doesnt make it better
so i see rotting in a prison cell as a better substitute
(that way atleast they cant hurt other innocent ppl)
Posted 8/22/08
idk.....i mena obviously you would want to kill the person who killed someone close to you....but wouldnt that make you the same...just a killer....even if its justified you are taking someone's life.....i dont think that decision is up to you.....
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Posted 8/22/08 , edited 8/22/08
Well its an eye for an eye. Its better for the person to suffer in prison then to die instantaneously with no suffering. Its better for you as a person as well getting the true signatory of justice. A few exceptions would be Soloboda Milosevic and Adolf Hitler to name a few. The monarchists of genocide.
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I-Killerbee-I wrote:

Well, chances are that if we let the murderer alive, then he either has to stay his whole life in jail, or he can get out of jail after a while, and chances that he/she will murder again are very high. But if he/she will stay forever in prison, what is the purpose of keeping someone like that alive? They will have no goal to achieve since they are condemned to stay in jail forever, they will only cost money to keep them alive with food and other necessities. So, why not get rid of them completely while we're at it? Pros are that the state has not to pay for their survival in jail, and we don't have to fear that they might get out of jail and start their murders again.

Now, I would like to hear what makes you think that it ain't profitable to get rid of a murderer, i.e. contras. And don't come up with, omg killing is so immoral, the murderer doesn't give a shit if killing is immoral, so why should we care if it is immoral to kill a murderer? Please, be creative...and don't be all Christian-like.

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How can we be completely sure that the murderer actaully was the murderer? We will never know if its the truth. Someone killed for something they didn't do would be inhuman. Plus even if the killer did kill the person... I do believe the killer would kill again. But, to end someone's life for someone eles ending another person's life? I dunno. It would be "just"... But it would just prove to the murder that murder is "okay". If I murdered someone (which i wouldn't) and was going to be killed by the goverment... I would think "These people killing me.. are just as insane as me"
Posted 8/22/08

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I-Killerbee-I wrote:

Well, chances are that if we let the murderer alive, then he either has to stay his whole life in jail, or he can get out of jail after a while, and chances that he/she will murder again are very high. But if he/she will stay forever in prison, what is the purpose of keeping someone like that alive? They will have no goal to achieve since they are condemned to stay in jail forever, they will only cost money to keep them alive with food and other necessities. So, why not get rid of them completely while we're at it? Pros are that the state has not to pay for their survival in jail, and we don't have to fear that they might get out of jail and start their murders again.

Now, I would like to hear what makes you think that it ain't profitable to get rid of a murderer, i.e. contras. And don't come up with, omg killing is so immoral, the murderer doesn't give a shit if killing is immoral, so why should we care if it is immoral to kill a murderer? Please, be creative...and don't be all Christian-like.

Floetry~


How can we be completely sure that the murderer actaully was the murderer? We will never know if its the truth. Someone killed for something they didn't do would be inhuman. Plus even if the killer did kill the person... I do believe the killer would kill again. But, to end someone's life for someone eles ending another person's life? I dunno. It would be "just"... But it would just prove to the murder that murder is "okay". If I murdered someone (which i wouldn't) and was going to be killed by the goverment... I would think "These people killing me.. are just as insane as me"


Eh, there are cases where we can be 100% sure that he/she was the murderer. I would say in doubtful cases it shouldn't be allowed to eradicate them from this planet, but I thought that this was kind of obvious...

Who cares about the opinion of a serial killer? I don't. I want to see those people dead. Why? Because what if they will kill again and again? I don't want to support those lousy bastards to have a nice life in jail, I want to see them dead. An eye for an eye.

Keeping murderers alive would just increase the insecurity in this world. Once they are dead, they can't harm anyone anymore. Plus, their death is justified. Killing someone to increase the security in this world is okay. Therefor I don't see anything wrong with getting rid of them.

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See.. this is why sometimes I appreciate things like law and bureaucracy. And that's saying something because usually i hate them passionately.

Ahm.. anyway. It depends on the case. Why and how bad did the criminal kill the victim. This is why the court of law exist. When a vigilante like light starts to take it into his own hands to bring justice... He's probly gonna miss out alot of details regarding the criminal case that he'd end up prosecuting everybody indiscriminately. Like.. punishing people with accidental murder case for example.

In no way i'm saying that the court of law is perfect. Its too hypocritical and full of bullshit these days. Hence... The sky-high crime rate in this century. Which is why on the threads i really side with people like light.. since it provides a slightly better option.

So to answer the original question.... Killing a person that killed a person is.. well.. depend on how sadistic the murder happened. If it's those sicko collecting human skin for his new leather jacket (eww). Then yes by all goddamn means those people needs to friggin die. But on those cases on morally grey area like self-defense murder, accidental murder, traffic accident etc etc.. Then no.
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Posted 8/22/08

animallover2929 wrote:

I'm not sure.
In death note.. Light killed people that killed people. I'm not sure if this is right. I think the goverment is spreading a bad example. But if we stoppped killing people that killed people, the crime rate would go up. What do you think?


Who are you to judge wether or not that person deserves to die or not, you both are human.
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Yes its called letting the punishment fit the crime. And if capital punishment were to be taken away - crime rates would go up, jails would be overrun, taxes would skyrocket, court system efficiency ratings would go down, etc. We would have more problems with no way to fix things.
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I don't think that's okay, I mean I will have no idea how hurt the victims family will be and how much they want to kill the killer. but I still say it's not okay, no one on this planet deserves to die, even if they r the worst people ever. everyone deserves to have a second chance and no one has the right to end another person's life (including the government)
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Posted 8/22/08 , edited 8/22/08
where is everyone getting 'only if it's justified' crap?
i mean srsly.
there is nothing that should ever justify a person to take another's life.
revenge is sweet and yadeeyah but honestly.
having another person's blood on your hands would be gratifying to you?
who are you to judge and decide who lives and dies?
Posted 8/22/08 , edited 8/22/08
I am human, I do possess the intelligence and a racional thinking attitude, there is no God imo, I do have the right to take someone's life away if they can't adapt themselves to this society and are threatening their surroudning, i.e. killing/hurting us.

You think it is wrong to take someone's life away even if the person killed several others and will go on killing people without having a sane reason to do so? Why should we apply the same rules on people who obviously break the rules of a certain society without having a sane reason to do so? They killed someone out of pleasure or w/e the reasons may be for them to kill people just like that, there is no need to keep those freaks alive.

You are all really dumb if you think that it is sooooo immoral to go after the "an eye for an eye" principle.

Lets hypothetically assume that you have children, and one day one of your kids won't come home...weeks later they will find the child somewhere under a bridge, and it will come out that the child has been abused several times, and then tortured to death...Do you think that the person who did this, has the right to get our compassion? I don't think so. They are a threat to the peace in our society. If the previously mentioned case would happen to my child, I would want this psychopath to get tortured to death, they can only understand through pain, and not through compassion. You know what such a psycho would most probably think of you? You are an idiot for letting me alive, and leaving me free to continue with these atrocities.

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Hmmm.. maybe to stop all this killing is finding out why people kill.. and then find out a solution to that. I mean some people are probably born mentally inpaired and LOVE killing. But the majority.. i think someone needs to find a way why some countries have a higher homoicide rate than others.. and then maybe we can lower our killings down.
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Posted 8/22/08

krnsoldierofGod wrote:


animallover2929 wrote:

I'm not sure.
In death note.. Light killed people that killed people. I'm not sure if this is right. I think the goverment is spreading a bad example. But if we stoppped killing people that killed people, the crime rate would go up. What do you think?


Who are you to judge wether or not that person deserves to die or not, you both are human.


I'm not.. but a lot of people judge who should die and who should not. I mean, can you not say you haven't had an urge to stab a rapist in face?
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Posted 8/22/08
I say we send criminals to outer-space. The onyl punishment for a killer with no remorse is a prison sentence so his mind slowly rots and becomes lustered with guilt. Unfortunately, prisons are overloaded with garbage so we need to recycle. BRAINWASHING.

I don't think killing killers is right. They get it easy.
Posted 8/22/08
sure go for it

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