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thx for recommendation, u seem know a lot about him?his ur best fav??


They're my favorite celebrity personality, but not singers or actors. I like reading about their stories and I like them for their friendship, but there are other artists whose songs or dramas(not that BOBO has any right now...but they will in three days!) I like more.

I think there are different types of celebrities. People like Jane Zhang and Anson Hu are loved for their music; others are liked for their looks (Crystal Liu and Rainie Yang); boybands are generally liked for a combination of their looks and personalities. And BOBO definitely has both.

I really love their friendship (and Fu Xinbo's looks...XD). Sometimes, though, I wish I weren't a fan of them, weren't so fond of their friendships, because being a bbs is so hard sometimes....


I still dont know so much about Cpop and Cbusiness, cause i was all time a big fan of korea, korean culture and people, but then i got some chinese or taiwanese dramas and i started loving china.so all things what did u say r important to me and to my (exiguous XD) knowledge
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idarklight wrote:


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thx for recommendation, u seem know a lot about him?his ur best fav??


They're my favorite celebrity personality, but not singers or actors. I like reading about their stories and I like them for their friendship, but there are other artists whose songs or dramas(not that BOBO has any right now...but they will in three days!) I like more.

I think there are different types of celebrities. People like Jane Zhang and Anson Hu are loved for their music; others are liked for their looks (Crystal Liu and Rainie Yang); boybands are generally liked for a combination of their looks and personalities. And BOBO definitely has both.

I really love their friendship (and Fu Xinbo's looks...XD). Sometimes, though, I wish I weren't a fan of them, weren't so fond of their friendships, because being a bbs is so hard sometimes....


I still dont know so much about Cpop and Cbusiness, cause i was all time a big fan of korea, korean culture and people, but then i got some chinese or taiwanese dramas and i started loving china.so all things what did u say r important to me and to my (exiguous XD) knowledge

Yep, me too. I began with chinese/taiwanese dramas, became obsessed about Korea for most of last year. And then this year, I discovered all these new mainland singer/actors. I was drawn to their lack of packaging, and many of their talents.

I guess, to me, Taiwanese artists (excluding the composers like Jay Chou, David Tao, Nicky Lee and Wang Leehom) are often too focused on looks, with little talent. (ie. Fahrenheit) On the other hand, many Korean artists are overly packaged, and after a while, they all sort of blur in my mind.

But the mainland industry is fairly new. It wasn't until late 2005, when Super Girls became popular, that mainland China finally had the seedlings of a real entertainment business. And then, all of a sudden, all of the talented mainlanders found an outlet for their talents and looks. Last year, with the success of Super Boys and My Hero, a lot of good looking guys also came out. XD Yet the people that did came out weren't packaged, but they were nevertheless (generally) talented.

Plus,a lot of the Super Girls have amazing voices. (Jade Liu, Jane Zhang, Bibi Chow, He Jie, Sitar Tan)

But the mainland industry is still growing. It has the talent, but not yet a well-developed entertainment circle (as opposed to the welloiled machine of Korea). For example, they have great voices, but often lack great composers. They have so much potential, but must go to the US to train in vocals. (ie. Jane Zhang had an American teacher, and Bibi studied in Hollywood).
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idarklight wrote:


reyo-shitnigima wrote:


idarklight wrote:


reyo-shitnigima wrote:



thx for recommendation, u seem know a lot about him?his ur best fav??


They're my favorite celebrity personality, but not singers or actors. I like reading about their stories and I like them for their friendship, but there are other artists whose songs or dramas(not that BOBO has any right now...but they will in three days!) I like more.

I think there are different types of celebrities. People like Jane Zhang and Anson Hu are loved for their music; others are liked for their looks (Crystal Liu and Rainie Yang); boybands are generally liked for a combination of their looks and personalities. And BOBO definitely has both.

I really love their friendship (and Fu Xinbo's looks...XD). Sometimes, though, I wish I weren't a fan of them, weren't so fond of their friendships, because being a bbs is so hard sometimes....


I still dont know so much about Cpop and Cbusiness, cause i was all time a big fan of korea, korean culture and people, but then i got some chinese or taiwanese dramas and i started loving china.so all things what did u say r important to me and to my (exiguous XD) knowledge

Yep, me too. I began with chinese/taiwanese dramas, became obsessed about Korea for most of last year. And then this year, I discovered all these new mainland singer/actors. I was drawn to their lack of packaging, and many of their talents.

I guess, to me, Taiwanese artists (excluding the composers like Jay Chou, David Tao, Nicky Lee and Wang Leehom) are often too focused on looks, with little talent. (ie. Fahrenheit) On the other hand, many Korean artists are overly packaged, and after a while, they all sort of blur in my mind.

But the mainland industry is fairly new. It wasn't until late 2005, when Super Girls became popular, that mainland China finally had the seedlings of a real entertainment business. And then, all of a sudden, all of the talented mainlanders found an outlet for their talents and looks. Last year, with the success of Super Boys and My Hero, a lot of good looking guys also came out. XD Yet the people that did came out weren't packaged, but they were nevertheless (generally) talented.

Plus,a lot of the Super Girls have amazing voices. (Jade Liu, Jane Zhang, Bibi Chow, He Jie, Sitar Tan)

But the mainland industry is still growing. It has the talent, but not yet a well-developed entertainment circle (as opposed to the welloiled machine of Korea). For example, they have great voices, but often lack great composers. They have so much potential, but must go to the US to train in vocals. (ie. Jane Zhang had an American teacher, and Bibi studied in Hollywood).


I think in a few years, the compositions will greatly increase in quality in China, once talented composers see they have people to compose for,. if you know what I mean. Before they couldn't make a living. Now all these talented voices are here, there's a market. Where there's a market for a need, that need will get resolved.

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they're not that unknown...in fact they'r quite popular!
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they're not that unknown...in fact they'r quite popular!


they're really popular in mainland.
but outside of mainland, most people are more focused on Korean, Japanese and even Taiwanese entertainment.
For example, Super Girls and Boys are phenomenally huge in mainland. I mean, Chris Lee has the largest mainland fanbase probably in the history of mainland entertainment. But if you mention Super Girls or Boys on crunchyroll, half of the people will think, "Oh, are they the knock-off versions of Super Junior?"

a few cartoons from BOBO baidu tieba...:



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jenniquack wrote:

they're not that unknown...in fact they'r quite popular!


they're really popular in mainland.
but outside of mainland, most people are more focused on Korean, Japanese and even Taiwanese entertainment.
For example, Super Girls and Boys are phenomenally huge in mainland. I mean, Chris Lee has the largest mainland fanbase probably in the history of mainland entertainment. But if you mention Super Girls or Boys on crunchyroll, half of the people will think, "Oh, are they the knock-off versions of Super Junior?"

a few cartoons from BOBO baidu tieba...:






omg!! so cute!

and yeah, i agree about them being heaps popular in mainland only, whilst outside of that kpop and jpop rules. my chinese friends adore these two guys and i thought they're quite cute and all but didn't know who they were. then after a bit of research i discovered they're not no names but actually heaps popular!

the obvious reason that these chinese singers aren't as popular as the korean, japanese and taiwanese singers is that the mainland industry only boomed recently, and as you said with the whole super girls and super boys thing. and personally i think that their journey towards international popularity is gonna be hard because they're gonna be compared to the milions of K/J/Tw singers already stable in the business. like the boyband "topcombine", even though they may be popular in mainland, on the international perspective they're considered mere copies of dbsk etc.

sighz...being in the business must be heaps hard for all these people, not just the rising mainland stars, but also the korean, japanese and taiwanese singers. being compared to other artists and having their talents overlooked is something that new singers have to face. and especially with the onslaught of korean boybands. there's just too much competition!!
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But it's so much easier for k/j/t artists. They also have the funds to purchase good songs, dances, and make good mv's. K/J has very well training programs that can transform someone with ordinary talents to someone extrodinary. Plus, they have powerful companies. Anyone with the label "SM" will get heaps of attention.

in mainland (and in Taiwan)...there's a lack of good training system to make the artists more "well-rounded." Hunan tv's entertainment shows are honestly the only effective way for mainland artists to promote themselves. Plus, mainland companies have trouble getting good music for their artists to sing, and they don't have idol dramas for their artists to act in.
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But it's so much easier for k/j/t artists. They also have the funds to purchase good songs, dances, and make good mv's. K/J has very well training programs that can transform someone with ordinary talents to someone extrodinary. Plus, they have powerful companies. Anyone with the label "SM" will get heaps of attention.

in mainland (and in Taiwan)...there's a lack of good training system to make the artists more "well-rounded." Hunan tv's entertainment shows are honestly the only effective way for mainland artists to promote themselves. Plus, mainland companies have trouble getting good music for their artists to sing, and they don't have idol dramas for their artists to act in.


<nods> yeah, i see ur point. in the korean industry the SM label is still number one, even though heaps of others still produce many amazing stars. but i think that it's because SM is a trusted tag to produce quality artists. SM has been in the industry long, long ago and have produced legends, practically. so the people will see most SM goods as 100% premium stuff.
the same thing goes for JE. they have been around long as well, producing 'legendary' boybands and the people thus perceive all JE produce as quality stuff. but Johnny utilises the people's , especially the girls', fetish for pretty boys and exploits that.

i guess what im getting at here is that these huge labels that produce really popular artists usually must have gained the people's trust in them first, thus having sponsors and funds to produce more 'quality' artists. along with the funds comes the power, as if they own the industry. this is especially the case with Johnny's and the plight of boygroups in japan.
but also don't forget that the seemingly plain people transformed into extraordinaires don't have it easy either. they too worked hard to get where they are. dance, vocal, body training they all endure to reach their goal. plastic surgery too, probably. it's not good enough that u enter a huge agency with all the goods and means to reach popularity, but u also have to put ur all into it.

like i said earlier, the mainland industry is still new, so the international audience aren't yet familair with the chinese artists and don't have that 'trust' in them. yes even though there's obvious talent, but most people will still ignore that because nothing 100% AMAZING has come from the industry yet. so of course the funds won't come in and the quality of MVs etc will still not reach 'the standards'.

and about idol dramas...that's actually not that hard for the mainland and taiwanese industry if u think about it. they always air dramas. and personally i think idol dramas work only to an extent...to have more well-rounded artists the agencies should stick them into quality dramas that will get huge ratings rather than mere idol dramas that usually don't have boastable ratings. that way the artists 'quality' will increase as they've been in 'quality' dramas.

lols, i've written half and essay and probably digressed heaps, and u might think wat i say is all bull**** but oh wells.
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idarklight wrote:


reyo-shitnigima wrote:


idarklight wrote:


reyo-shitnigima wrote:



thx for recommendation, u seem know a lot about him?his ur best fav??


They're my favorite celebrity personality, but not singers or actors. I like reading about their stories and I like them for their friendship, but there are other artists whose songs or dramas(not that BOBO has any right now...but they will in three days!) I like more.

I think there are different types of celebrities. People like Jane Zhang and Anson Hu are loved for their music; others are liked for their looks (Crystal Liu and Rainie Yang); boybands are generally liked for a combination of their looks and personalities. And BOBO definitely has both.

I really love their friendship (and Fu Xinbo's looks...XD). Sometimes, though, I wish I weren't a fan of them, weren't so fond of their friendships, because being a bbs is so hard sometimes....


I still dont know so much about Cpop and Cbusiness, cause i was all time a big fan of korea, korean culture and people, but then i got some chinese or taiwanese dramas and i started loving china.so all things what did u say r important to me and to my (exiguous XD) knowledge

Yep, me too. I began with chinese/taiwanese dramas, became obsessed about Korea for most of last year. And then this year, I discovered all these new mainland singer/actors. I was drawn to their lack of packaging, and many of their talents.

I guess, to me, Taiwanese artists (excluding the composers like Jay Chou, David Tao, Nicky Lee and Wang Leehom) are often too focused on looks, with little talent. (ie. Fahrenheit) On the other hand, many Korean artists are overly packaged, and after a while, they all sort of blur in my mind.

But the mainland industry is fairly new. It wasn't until late 2005, when Super Girls became popular, that mainland China finally had the seedlings of a real entertainment business. And then, all of a sudden, all of the talented mainlanders found an outlet for their talents and looks. Last year, with the success of Super Boys and My Hero, a lot of good looking guys also came out. XD Yet the people that did came out weren't packaged, but they were nevertheless (generally) talented.

Plus,a lot of the Super Girls have amazing voices. (Jade Liu, Jane Zhang, Bibi Chow, He Jie, Sitar Tan)

But the mainland industry is still growing. It has the talent, but not yet a well-developed entertainment circle (as opposed to the welloiled machine of Korea). For example, they have great voices, but often lack great composers. They have so much potential, but must go to the US to train in vocals. (ie. Jane Zhang had an American teacher, and Bibi studied in Hollywood).


u r right, i dont think the boybands r good, for ex. i like Fahrenheit partly because of their looks,images and drama acting but their music is still trivial.In Chinese showbusiness i prefer dramas and culture and i rarely listen to their music, the one i like best is Jay chou, i dont know the others (yet )
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u r right, i dont think the boybands r good, for ex. i like Fahrenheit partly because of their looks,images and drama acting but their music is still trivial.In Chinese showbusiness i prefer dramas and culture and i rarely listen to their music, the one i like best is Jay chou, i dont know the others (yet )


You should listen to more non-boyband music from mainland. A lot of the artists are really talented. Many of them writes their own songs, other have beautiful voices.
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can someone confirm this for me PLEASE! is it true that BoBo will act in a drama with Kim Junghoon?? please someone tell me!
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reyo-shitnigima wrote:



u r right, i dont think the boybands r good, for ex. i like Fahrenheit partly because of their looks,images and drama acting but their music is still trivial.In Chinese showbusiness i prefer dramas and culture and i rarely listen to their music, the one i like best is Jay chou, i dont know the others (yet )


You should listen to more non-boyband music from mainland. A lot of the artists are really talented. Many of them writes their own songs, other have beautiful voices.


thanks.i started to love asian music in 2006,the time before i always loved world rock and numetal...and a began with these chinese boybands because of their acting in dramas
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can someone confirm this for me PLEASE! is it true that BoBo will act in a drama with Kim Junghoon?? please someone tell me!


that's the word on the street...

there has been news reports of KJH saying that he will undertake another HY Bros project in a drama with BOBO...which makes sense since KJH's last (and only) Chinese drama was with HY Bros...and BOBO belongs to HY Bros.
On the other hand, I have yet to see a video of him saying it...so who knows?

I would love it...I love KJH and BOBO...the only problem is, who would be the lead?

http://cfensi.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/kim-junghoon-to-team-up-with-bobo-duo-for-new-drama/
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I agree about the work that the k/j celebs have to go through. But at least they have something to train hard at.

the only reason why many twcelebs are famous is because of idol dramas...see Fahrenheit.
so far, mainland has failed at idol dramas...all the good director/actors make more money doing serious dramas, so all the ones that do idol dramas are sucky.

Nothing 100% amazing? I consider Jane Zhang and Bibi Chow at least 90% amazing, unfortunately, their mv's do suck...but so far, I don't really consider anything from Korea/Japan 100% amazing either.

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Ep 1. of Fu Xinbo's new drama is out!

you can learn more about it here:
http://cfensi.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/i-am-veeker-new-online-sci-fi-comedy-series/





Jing Boran's also filming a drama called A tribute to Stephen Chow.
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