I'm curious about a couple things
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I think the term might be "No longer in print" but whatever it is, let's say that an anime is licensed and thus removed from CR. After a couple of years, that anime is not sold in stores any more and is no longer in print, does that mean we can put it back into CR to watch again? Or when it's licensed that's it, it's gone from CR forever?

Also, on a side note to that, why does CR still have active all the links to animes that are licensed? If we can't watch it, then shouldn't it be removed from the anime list and its title simply be put on some list of anime not to be shown on the forum or some where else? That way, when you click on the "Anime" button, you don't have to go through 74 pages of anime when more than half of them can't be watched because they've been licensed and removed (and anime section becoming shortened to around 25 pages or so? Hope I haven't confused ya. Those are my q's on this license thing
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Posted 3/24/07
I don't think just because something is sold out its not licensed anymore. These publishing companies pay a hefty sum for the license.
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zanthimos wrote:

I think the term might be "No longer in print" but whatever it is, let's say that an anime is licensed and thus removed from CR. After a couple of years, that anime is not sold in stores any more and is no longer in print, does that mean we can put it back into CR to watch again? Or when it's licensed that's it, it's gone from CR forever?

Also, on a side note to that, why does CR still have active all the links to animes that are licensed? If we can't watch it, then shouldn't it be removed from the anime list and its title simply be put on some list of anime not to be shown on the forum or some where else? That way, when you click on the "Anime" button, you don't have to go through 74 pages of anime when more than half of them can't be watched because they've been licensed and removed (and anime section becoming shortened to around 25 pages or so? Hope I haven't confused ya. Those are my q's on this license thing


Just because you can't find something in a store doesn't mean it isn't available. If you dig around anime speciality stores and the official stores of the company that holds the license, I'd almost put money you can find what you're looking for.

Occasionally, there will be a grey period of time when they are moving to a new format (usually thin pack) that the old version will go out of print while no current version is "officially" available, though those can still usually be found on online anime specialty stores in abundance.

Once an anime is licensed, black and white, CR isn't supposed to put it up. Technically speaking all that Naruto and Bleach should not be up right now (in addition to some other licensed anime that was never taken down).

If you get down to it, fansubbers are distributing material they don't have the rights for and if the owning company were to pursue it enough (even if they're in japan) they could shut them down. Most companies are aware that fansub distribution is an important marketing phase for an anime, and a way of predicting how popular it may be with a western market. There is alot of anime out there folks - we just see the tip of the iceberg here.

In Ye Olde days, back when people traded their fansubs on crappy third generation VHS tapes, licensing wasn't much of an issue at all. As anime became more popular, the american companies that owned the rights to the anime have usually turned a blind eye towards fansub distribution as long as distribution ceased once it became licensed. As technology has improved and anime's popularity increased, their tolerance is starting to stretch thin (as seen with the mess made over Death Not being acquired before it has finished airing in japan - a first to my knowledge). On occasion even japanese companies have been known to tell fansubbers to stop subbing a series, though that is highly unusual.

So in short yes, once a series is licensed, it is gone forever unless CR decides to take the risk and put it back up. They still have a fair amount of licensed anime up, so I'm not sure what their criteria is at this point. I highly doubt any licensed anime truly is out of print or unavailable in one form or another, though it's likely that it's out of mass circulation.

As to why they haven't gotten rid of the licensed anime from their lists, I haven't the foggiest. Probably because it's a mountain of work nobody wants to jump on.
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That isn't necessarily true. Licenses are only available for a certain amount of years. Once the distributer loses the license then it is available again. Many anime are like that nowadays. Digimon and Kimagure Orange Road are back on CR because they are no longer licensed in the US.

They haven't gotten rid of licensed anime on the list because Shinji doesn't have the time. Mods can't delete anything so they have to wait for him to delete anything permanently. Remember that CR is still in development so there are still a large number of bugs. That's also why some anime have tags like "Please Remove" Any final decisions are up to Shinji.
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license and patents are avialable for a maximum of 5 years meaning shinji can start putting it up if he wants to i learned that this week in economics
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Posted 3/24/07

zanthimos wrote:

I think the term might be "No longer in print" but whatever it is, let's say that an anime is licensed and thus removed from CR. After a couple of years, that anime is not sold in stores any more and is no longer in print, does that mean we can put it back into CR to watch again? Or when it's licensed that's it, it's gone from CR forever?

Also, on a side note to that, why does CR still have active all the links to animes that are licensed? If we can't watch it, then shouldn't it be removed from the anime list and its title simply be put on some list of anime not to be shown on the forum or some where else? That way, when you click on the "Anime" button, you don't have to go through 74 pages of anime when more than half of them can't be watched because they've been licensed and removed (and anime section becoming shortened to around 25 pages or so? Hope I haven't confused ya. Those are my q's on this license thing



As a couple has already said, its rare to find an anime that you cannot find even if it might be out of print. There are always some store or something that would have a copy of it.

Most anime on CR that is licensed and still viewed actuallly should be gone, as they are not allowed on CR. Licensing of some anime doesnt last forever, as they only or should last some years. It pretty much depends on how long the company will hold the license of the anime, as they might allow it to just continue for only a couple years and then let it go. (but not all may do that as some very famous anime would probably held licensed for a long time)

If you want to view anime that isnt licensed without going through the many pages, just go to the anime index as it will or should only consist of non-licensed anime that you could view.

For those who dont know where it is, here is the address.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/list?type=anime

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Why would we want to get rid of all the links to licensed unwatchable anime? If we do that, we won't be able to add the anime to our faveorites list, then how will people know each others faveorites?
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I would want to keep the animes that are licensed in the list because it's a great resource. If it's licensed on CR and you can't watch it just download the torrent. I usually look up a new anime on CR's list, then just download the whole series on my comp and watch it.
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No, as I understand it we can allow an anime on here if the DVD is out of print. That's the reason I was told to approve Kimagure Orange Road, even though it is still licensed.
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