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Neon Genesis Evangelion
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Hahaha. I definitely need to see Rebuild. Think I should watch the old movies first?


Up to you, Rebuild was supposedly designed to attract a new generation of audience. So the need to see the old ones is based on how much of a mind-#### you're willing to go through.


It's a remake of the entire series, composed of 4 movies, I believe


The first 3 are remakes, the fourth apparently will be a new storyline altogether.


new like "angelic days" manga or new as in "new" new


Dunno, most presumably new as in "new".
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I watched the brand new remake of Eva which came out as a movie last year in Japan. It makes a little more since than the old version that came out in the 90's
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as for the confusing ending....

if you see the end of the movie you see that shinji did not break through his problems but asuka did(by pwning all those wannabe evas and having that epiphone about her mother) however anno-sama did not give us the clousure we so despreately sought, both shinji and the audience, because none exsisted. shinji is the protagonist, if he made no sense of the situation then we, as the audience were never meant to, though he does leave me thinking that asuka has figured it out or rather she was able to move through it.

if you still dislike it fine it's not for everyone.
but consider how two anime's like bragonball Z and evangelion have such a big and loyal fan base even though they are worlds apart in almost every aspect. i saw it when i was in high school and it hit me hard. it's like comparing schindler's list to indiana jones, they're both great but one asks more from the audience.
Eva asks more of you, tha's all.


another great point DS
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never got to watch the anime but i read some of the manga and i feel really bad for shinji! all he wanted was for his dad to just aknowledge him!
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name 4 outta 9, win a prize!
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ds0192234 wrote:

as for the confusing ending....

if you see the end of the movie you see that shinji did not break through his problems but asuka did(by pwning all those wannabe evas and having that epiphone about her mother) however anno-sama did not give us the clousure we so despreately sought, both shinji and the audience, because none exsisted. shinji is the protagonist, if he made no sense of the situation then we, as the audience were never meant to, though he does leave me thinking that asuka has figured it out or rather she was able to move through it.

if you still dislike it fine it's not for everyone.
but consider how two anime's like bragonball Z and evangelion have such a big and loyal fan base even though they are worlds apart in almost every aspect. i saw it when i was in high school and it hit me hard. it's like comparing schindler's list to indiana jones, they're both great but one asks more from the audience.
Eva asks more of you, tha's all.


another great point DS


Yes, great points. [You're quite fond of quoting yourself huh?]
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Yes, great points. [You're quite fond of quoting yourself huh?]



he speaks the truth
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someone? anyone?


name 4 outta 9, win a prize!


Wha... what madness is this?!!
I knew Sun Microsystems was behind this! ... AND Steve Jobs! But what the heck are Dilbert an Dogbert doing there?
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ds0192234 wrote:


ds0192234 wrote:



someone? anyone?


name 4 outta 9, win a prize!


Wha... what madness is this?!!
I knew Sun Microsystems was behind this! ... AND Steve Jobs! But what the heck are Dilbert an Dogbert doing there?


oooooh! only three! only three!

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This show was great and used alot of brain power javascript:void(0) but overall it rocked
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Shinji_Ikari wrote:


ds0192234 wrote:


Shinji_Ikari wrote:


ds0192234 wrote:


Shinji_Ikari wrote:


duh wrote:

Hahaha. I definitely need to see Rebuild. Think I should watch the old movies first?


Up to you, Rebuild was supposedly designed to attract a new generation of audience. So the need to see the old ones is based on how much of a mind-#### you're willing to go through.


It's a remake of the entire series, composed of 4 movies, I believe


The first 3 are remakes, the fourth apparently will be a new storyline altogether.


new like "angelic days" manga or new as in "new" new


Dunno, most presumably new as in "new".


Really? I was told rebuild 4 was going to be a drastic revamp of End of Eva: essentially the same, but with less mindeff.

I'm kinda scared about 4, though. You can't end Eva without everyone turning into LCL. I actually mostly got the End of Eva...does that mean I'm screwed up?

Also, It's not that difficult to get. Read a little on Revelations, the Kabbalah and listen to the song Zero-sum from NIN's Year Zero, and it's basically the same thing. The depth and complexity really lies in how the characters behave.
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Really? I was told rebuild 4 was going to be a drastic revamp of End of Eva: essentially the same, but with less mindeff.

I'm kinda scared about 4, though. You can't end Eva without everyone turning into LCL. I actually mostly got the End of Eva...does that mean I'm screwed up?

Also, It's not that difficult to get. Read a little on Revelations, the Kabbalah and listen to the song Zero-sum from NIN's Year Zero, and it's basically the same thing. The depth and complexity really lies in how the characters behave.


huh... I would of said Downward Spiral and Dead Sea Scrolls.
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CerridwenStorms wrote:

Really? I was told rebuild 4 was going to be a drastic revamp of End of Eva: essentially the same, but with less mindeff.

I'm kinda scared about 4, though. You can't end Eva without everyone turning into LCL. I actually mostly got the End of Eva...does that mean I'm screwed up?

Also, It's not that difficult to get. Read a little on Revelations, the Kabbalah and listen to the song Zero-sum from NIN's Year Zero, and it's basically the same thing. The depth and complexity really lies in how the characters behave.


huh... I would of said Downward Spiral and Dead Sea Scrolls.


No, that's right. I'm not sure about Revelation (from the Bible). They may have gotten some inspiration from that, but how much, I'm unsure. Most of the series draws on Kabbalah (occult Jewish mysticism) in terms of the messed up relations between characters in Nerv and the Angels etc... I don't know what Zero-sum is.
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i try watching it...got me bored ><
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Zero-sum by Nine Inch Nails:

They're starting to open up the sky
They're starting to reach down through
And it feels like we're living in that split-second
Of a car crash
And time is slowing down
And if we only had a little more time
And this time
Is all there is
Do you remember the time we
And all the times we
And should have
And were going to
I know
And I know you remember
How we could justify it all
And we knew better
In our hearts we knew better
And we told ourselves it didn't matter
And we chose to continue
And none of that matters anymore
In the hour of our twilight
And soon it will be all said and done
And we will all be back together as one
If we will continue at all

Shame on us
Doomed from the start
May God have mercy
On our dirty little hearts
Shame on us
For all we've done
And all we ever were
Just zeros and ones

And you never get away
And you never get to take the easy way
And all of this is a consequence
Brought on by our own hand
If you believe in that sort of thing
And did you ever really find
When you closed your eyes
Any place that was still
And at peace
And I guess I just wanted to tell you
As the light starts to fade
That you are the reason
That I am not afraid
And I guess I just wanted to mention
As the heavens will fall
We will be together soon if we
Will be anything at all

Shame on us
Doomed from the start
May God have mercy
On our dirty little hearts
Shame on us
For all we've done
And all we ever were
Just zeros and ones
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