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Posted 3/1/08 , edited 4/21/08

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CerridwenStorms wrote:

Really? I was told rebuild 4 was going to be a drastic revamp of End of Eva: essentially the same, but with less mindeff.

I'm kinda scared about 4, though. You can't end Eva without everyone turning into LCL. I actually mostly got the End of Eva...does that mean I'm screwed up?

Also, It's not that difficult to get. Read a little on Revelations, the Kabbalah and listen to the song Zero-sum from NIN's Year Zero, and it's basically the same thing. The depth and complexity really lies in how the characters behave.


huh... I would of said Downward Spiral and Dead Sea Scrolls.


No, that's right. I'm not sure about Revelation (from the Bible). They may have gotten some inspiration from that, but how much, I'm unsure. Most of the series draws on Kabbalah (occult Jewish mysticism) in terms of the messed up relations between characters in Nerv and the Angels etc... I don't know what Zero-sum is.


inside joke... it's the name of nine inch nails song


It wasn't an inside joke. Zero-sum pretty much sums up LCL to me.
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Posted 3/1/08 , edited 4/21/08

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Really? I was told rebuild 4 was going to be a drastic revamp of End of Eva: essentially the same, but with less mindeff.

I'm kinda scared about 4, though. You can't end Eva without everyone turning into LCL. I actually mostly got the End of Eva...does that mean I'm screwed up?

Also, It's not that difficult to get. Read a little on Revelations, the Kabbalah and listen to the song Zero-sum from NIN's Year Zero, and it's basically the same thing. The depth and complexity really lies in how the characters behave.


I read in Newtype it was gonna be a new story (what that may be I have no clue). Even if you get some of EoE, some moments leave me completely baffled (like what Gendo said to Ritsuko before he shot her), but understanding some of it doesn't mean you're screwed up, just informed.
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Posted 3/1/08 , edited 4/21/08

CerridwenStorms wrote:


ds0192234 wrote:


duh wrote:


ds0192234 wrote:


CerridwenStorms wrote:

Really? I was told rebuild 4 was going to be a drastic revamp of End of Eva: essentially the same, but with less mindeff.

I'm kinda scared about 4, though. You can't end Eva without everyone turning into LCL. I actually mostly got the End of Eva...does that mean I'm screwed up?

Also, It's not that difficult to get. Read a little on Revelations, the Kabbalah and listen to the song Zero-sum from NIN's Year Zero, and it's basically the same thing. The depth and complexity really lies in how the characters behave.


huh... I would of said Downward Spiral and Dead Sea Scrolls.


No, that's right. I'm not sure about Revelation (from the Bible). They may have gotten some inspiration from that, but how much, I'm unsure. Most of the series draws on Kabbalah (occult Jewish mysticism) in terms of the messed up relations between characters in Nerv and the Angels etc... I don't know what Zero-sum is.


inside joke... it's the name of nine inch nails song


It wasn't an inside joke. Zero-sum pretty much sums up LCL to me.


the NIN refrence, not the meaning of it.

Posted 3/1/08 , edited 4/21/08
Never watch it.
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Posted 3/1/08 , edited 4/21/08

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CerridwenStorms wrote:


Really? I was told rebuild 4 was going to be a drastic revamp of End of Eva: essentially the same, but with less mindeff.

I'm kinda scared about 4, though. You can't end Eva without everyone turning into LCL. I actually mostly got the End of Eva...does that mean I'm screwed up?

Also, It's not that difficult to get. Read a little on Revelations, the Kabbalah and listen to the song Zero-sum from NIN's Year Zero, and it's basically the same thing. The depth and complexity really lies in how the characters behave.


I read in Newtype it was gonna be a new story (what that may be I have no clue). Even if you get some of EoE, some moments leave me completely baffled (like what Gendo said to Ritsuko before he shot her), but understanding some of it doesn't mean you're screwed up, just informed.


Huh. I actually have that article. That's what I get for not actually reading it, just going, "Yay! Rebuild!"
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pen pen is awesome and does any1 else understand this confusing show? *i don't* especially the ending *obviously*
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CerridwenStorms wrote:


Really? I was told rebuild 4 was going to be a drastic revamp of End of Eva: essentially the same, but with less mindeff.

I'm kinda scared about 4, though. You can't end Eva without everyone turning into LCL. I actually mostly got the End of Eva...does that mean I'm screwed up?

Also, It's not that difficult to get. Read a little on Revelations, the Kabbalah and listen to the song Zero-sum from NIN's Year Zero, and it's basically the same thing. The depth and complexity really lies in how the characters behave.


I read in Newtype it was gonna be a new story (what that may be I have no clue). Even if you get some of EoE, some moments leave me completely baffled (like what Gendo said to Ritsuko before he shot her), but understanding some of it doesn't mean you're screwed up, just informed.


ritsuko and her mom... they may have been the most pitiful characters in the series
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pen pen is awesome and does any1 else understand this confusing show? *i don't* especially the ending *obviously*


no one really understands all of it, but we have an idea. a few pages back we disscuss it
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ds0192234 wrote:


Shinji_Ikari wrote:


CerridwenStorms wrote:


Really? I was told rebuild 4 was going to be a drastic revamp of End of Eva: essentially the same, but with less mindeff.

I'm kinda scared about 4, though. You can't end Eva without everyone turning into LCL. I actually mostly got the End of Eva...does that mean I'm screwed up?

Also, It's not that difficult to get. Read a little on Revelations, the Kabbalah and listen to the song Zero-sum from NIN's Year Zero, and it's basically the same thing. The depth and complexity really lies in how the characters behave.


I read in Newtype it was gonna be a new story (what that may be I have no clue). Even if you get some of EoE, some moments leave me completely baffled (like what Gendo said to Ritsuko before he shot her), but understanding some of it doesn't mean you're screwed up, just informed.


ritsuko and her mom... they may have been the most pitiful characters in the series


Actually I find no pity towards them, they may be put on Shinji's pedestal on how most you guys describe Shinji. They were selfish and weak, they wanted Gendo all to themselves and allowed him to use them knowing fully well that he doesn't really love them. Most of all both killed Rei (Ritsuko's case, Reis), and that's unforgivable in my book.
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zenbunny wrote:

pen pen is awesome and does any1 else understand this confusing show? *i don't* especially the ending *obviously*


no one really understands all of it, but we have an idea. a few pages back we disscuss it


oh ok..i see i was just too lazy to look through all of it
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uhh... guys. Your not supposed to look into Eva too hard...
That's the sure path into madness.

Looking deeply and seriously into Eva doesn't lead anywhere, it just fucks up your brain.

I mean, kamon wrote an entire freakin' book on eva, and look how he turned out.
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indeed eva messes up sanity...but i love it still


and i want nagisa back! (hopefully in the rebuild)
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Posted 3/2/08 , edited 4/21/08

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What, Naruto or Neon Genesis Evangelion?


Evangelion is great. I don't like Naruto. I just couldn't get into it because of what you said about smoothing it for 10-year old boys that want to be ninjas. That "smoothing" seems to limit it too much for me to enjoy.


The series had real potential after the Zabuza arc because there was a direct challenge to the role that Naruto and his fellow colleagues would eventually fill. Zabuza reminds them that "shinobis are only tools for the villages": the villages are perfectly willing to accept their deaths since they are nothing more than servants for its overall good. Even if Zabuza and Haku are renegade shinobi, what right gives the village to (effectively) murder them for its own protection? I hoped that eventually there might be some conflict between the duty to protect the village and the limitations that the group ideal places on them. But so far every shinobi who has refused to obey that Japanese ideal of "group harmony" has been labeled as evil. I mean, look at Ataksuki. Don't tell me that every single member was a hard-core rapist or something and deserved to die. Some of them were more likable than the good guys (Deidara, my favorite terrorist bomber, should have owned Sasuke back then).

And to be honest, it makes you wonder. We have Narutards who absolutely drool over this series, which is based around growing teenagers being taught to mindlessly kill, "but it's okay, because somehow your village is more important than the Village of Sand". And it's "cool", in the words of some idiot.

But then, commercialization...and we get an okay series. Which had real potential but got transformed into something popular and bland.

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Posted 3/2/08 , edited 4/21/08

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The mechs so needed completion form other countries. They should do that in a sequel sires. Didn’t the Americans build or repair unit 02? I not hating on Japan or a super patriot, but still that would have been a great plot twist if the Americans just came out of nowhere and attacked the angels. If they had plans why didn’t the Americans try to make one? The Japanese government made their own.


The Americans did try to make one. It was Unit 04, the one that was lost during the test sesion in Nevada. And, I agree. America should have had a more serious effect in the show. Maybe an American Pilot... maybe another boy... maybe... ME!!!


anno... anno did good. no nitpicking


Maybe So. But he fucked up when he killed Misato, Rei, and my beloved Asuka.
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Posted 3/2/08 , edited 4/21/08

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indeed eva messes up sanity...but i love it still


and i want nagisa back! (hopefully in the rebuild)


on't worry, he comes back. This time, its even earlier. Like, in the first freakin movie earlier.
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