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Neon Genesis Evangelion
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Posted 1/24/08
YES!! FINALLY FOUND A THREAD ON THIS! yes, I am very excited about NGE. Freaking best series ever!!
The way Anno puts it together is so original it makes my head spin; and who doesn't love suicidal/mental/sadistic little children? ^^

Don't you all love this series?
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this my favorite anime of all time and i get sick of people going on about how shinji was a crybaby.
you're missing the whole point. shinji is not meant to be a hero in fact in many ways he is closest to real as you can get.
in the real world you don't just suddenly become untraumatized from being abandoned as a child and you don't cope with adolescence and hormones so fluidly as portrayed by most other animes.
the compounding sexual urges that every fourteen year old boy gets, the uneasiness of those feelings, the loneliness expressed by both asuka and shinji and literally translated by rei.
people don't always get better, sometimes they're not strong enough to overcome it and they continue in a downward spiral. (everyone is not perfect like naruto or goku)
so many themes are expressed in this series that require you to have an openmind and understanding and above all patience. most of these characters are not meant to be liked.
they're imperfect and they die that way but they are not bad characters.
there were no villians in this story, not nerv or gendou ikari or seele or even the angels.
what haunted most of these characters were their own personal demons.

i can go on forever but i'll choose to stop know.
my advice is to watch more than once and try to be indifferent, just observe and try to understand rather than judge
to me the most uninteresting thing about this series were the eva's

and for the record there are more people who relate to shinji than these plastic generic heroes.
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Posted 1/24/08
so very very confusing. yet I loved it. the psychological trauma that every character had was just incredible! I can't beleive that one person came up with that. I character had a flaw, just like real people, which made it easier to relate to and really put yourself in the show. Definately in my top 5. Another good one that is similar to NGE is Rahxephon. If you haven't seen that one, I would REALLY reccomend it! Awesome fights, story, and characters!!
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Posted 1/24/08
it is just nice to watch!!!... even though confusing...
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as for the confusing ending....

if you see the end of the movie you see that shinji did not break through his problems but asuka did(by pwning all those wannabe evas and having that epiphone about her mother) however anno-sama did not give us the clousure we so despreately sought, both shinji and the audience, because none exsisted. shinji is the protagonist, if he made no sense of the situation then we, as the audience were never meant to, though he does leave me thinking that asuka has figured it out or rather she was able to move through it.

if you still dislike it fine it's not for everyone.
but consider how two anime's like bragonball Z and evangelion have such a big and loyal fan base even though they are worlds apart in almost every aspect. i saw it when i was in high school and it hit me hard. it's like comparing schindler's list to indiana jones, they're both great but one asks more from the audience.
Eva asks more of you, tha's all.
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Posted 1/24/08
This show was incredible in many ways. One jsut simply incredible plot. Then it was incredibly confusing, some parts incredibly annoying. Hey man the lists just goes on and on. lol
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Posted 1/25/08

Dark_Flubba wrote:

Oh one more thing, to those who hate Asuka ... Lol you need to think about how good Eva woulda been without Asuka. It would totally lose the impact it had and it would DEFINETLY lessen the greatness of this anime.


Amen!
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Sorry, a few more!

1. Adam was the first or second angel?
2. Lilith was who?
3. What caused the second impact?
4. Rei was the one that was going to cause the third impact?
5. Someone explain the order of angels and stuff ! >.<''
6. Which angels were created and what weren't ?
7. Eva's were created? =S I thought when they wen't into their true form they were uncontrollable? - Well once they tore off their 'armor'

Thanks in advance. Probably asked the same questions lol.
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Posted 1/25/08

Dark_Flubba wrote:

Sorry, a few more!

1. Adam was the first or second angel?
2. Lilith was who?
3. What caused the second impact?
4. Rei was the one that was going to cause the third impact?
5. Someone explain the order of angels and stuff ! >.<''
6. Which angels were created and what weren't ?
7. Eva's were created? =S I thought when they wen't into their true form they were uncontrollable? - Well once they tore off their 'armor'

Thanks in advance. Probably asked the same questions lol.


1. I've heard that Adam was a source of life, and from him came the actual Angels, whilst Lilith was also a source of life, from which humans (Lilims) came from. The order which they came, I'm not sure, but I think since NERV thought Lilith was Adam, and they said it was the first angel, maybe it was Lilith. Actually yes, I think it was Lilith, and Adam was the angel who they had pictures of, if I remember correctly, was just a shadow behind some dust. Not too sure, soo long ago since I watched.
2. Lilith was the angel from who humans came from. Also the white thing in the Terminal Dogma.
3. I think it was SEELE, or some kind of organization. It was an attempt, and it failed. There was more on this but I forget.
4. She would play a part in it.
5. They were seen to be "tests" that the humans had to overcome in order for them to evolve into a higher being. The order of the angels, I don't think have much to do with anything.
6. None of the "proper" angels were made, but Rei and Kaoru would be the actual human made Angels.
7. I'm pretty sure they were created, but they have some kind of soul added to them, which, I think, makes sense with why they need the synchronize percentage or whatever it was (not too sure, don't remember at all and kinda iffy on the Eva part).
Though at first, I thought Eva-00 (or 01 I completely forget, Shinji's one) was just an old angel with plates of armor and stuff placed on it to control him. Or, it could have been some kind of biological creation, similar to an angel, whereas instead of a S2 organ, it has a core (and a soul).

Someone correct me on this, and also give me a copy of the series on DVD or something!!!

And, about Asuka. I think all of the Eva pilots (except the 4th failure kid) are kinda disturbed. As you see at the end, Asuka breaks down, and then her thought process is kinda twisted beyond recognition and she goes crazy. Rei isn't even human and Shinji's an emo deep inside. This, however, was probably a design technique, which gives the series it's effect.
The ending, which depicts Shinji kinda coming out of depression, or coming to an understanding with himself, is apparently supposed to be related to the fact that the director, Hideaki Anno (was that his name), used to have depression. Hence why I think we are given a very close look into Shinji's character.
I have a feeling the other characters can go VERRYYY deep with the way their personas interact with Shinji's, and the way we are shown it, but its 4:21am and omfg....
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1. Adam is designated the first angel , but from what i have gathered, he's no older than Lilith
3. Adam caused second impact, but it was Seele's fault. When they tried to contain him.
4. Rei is Lilith in a sense. In the same way that Kaoru is Adam. They both harbor their respective souls. Gendou created Rei behind Seeles back, and I'm sure Gendou didn't know about Kaoru. She would be needed, as well as Kaoru, for the third impact.
5. I don't know about the test part, but they are said to be humans who have cast off human form, or an entity born of Adam. The order probably means little. but it should be noted that Adam was considered the strongest.
6. Rei and Kaworu were both created by humans to house an angel's soul.
7. Evas are clones of Adam. Aside from 01 being a clone of Lilith, with the purpose of acting as a replacement. They're going "berserk" is from the soul's will.
EVA 0,1 and 2 harbor souls. 01 has Yui's soul, 02 has asuka's mother's soul, and 00 is unknown, although it is thought that it holds Ritsuko's mother's soul. It is also hinted that the EVA mass production series have the soul's of shinji's classmates. though i don't know whether its true or not.
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Posted 1/25/08

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Cookie_Comando wrote:

oooh how i loved this show

except Asuka....

shes too loud


I guess. But everyone else is too quite. If she didn't speak up, who would? No one else had the ambition that she did. Rei did it because she was told to, and Shinji did it to get praise from everyone else. Asuka did it to make herself known and to be the best she can be. Plus, after all of the turmoil she went through in her life, I say that her occasional wining and complaining isn't justification for the way so many people hate her. She was a 14 year old, female HERO of the show. Why don't people get that?




hmmm...

Touche

you got me beat there...I never thought of it like that...

I'm just someone who enjoys quiet... Thats all
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Posted 1/25/08

Dark_Flubba wrote:

Sorry, a few more!

1. Adam was the first or second angel?
2. Lilith was who?
3. What caused the second impact?
4. Rei was the one that was going to cause the third impact?
5. Someone explain the order of angels and stuff ! >.<''
6. Which angels were created and what weren't ?
7. Eva's were created? =S I thought when they wen't into their true form they were uncontrollable? - Well once they tore off their 'armor'

Thanks in advance. Probably asked the same questions lol.


as for the second question, lilith was adams first wife before eve (see john milton's paradise lost)
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Posted 1/25/08

Cookie_Comando wrote:


yusukimawini wrote:


Cookie_Comando wrote:

oooh how i loved this show

except Asuka....

shes too loud


I guess. But everyone else is too quite. If she didn't speak up, who would? No one else had the ambition that she did. Rei did it because she was told to, and Shinji did it to get praise from everyone else. Asuka did it to make herself known and to be the best she can be. Plus, after all of the turmoil she went through in her life, I say that her occasional wining and complaining isn't justification for the way so many people hate her. She was a 14 year old, female HERO of the show. Why don't people get that?




hmmm...

Touche

you got me beat there...I never thought of it like that...

I'm just someone who enjoys quiet... Thats all


Thats cool and all, just don't hate on Asuka because she's vibrant and outspoken. That ain't fair.
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Posted 1/25/08
Shinji is just a punk that needs to get his priorities straightened. And man, if I was in the internal psyche exam (episodes 25-26) You'd probly get bored in a few seconds because I'm not a psychologically unstable fella.
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This show is confusing and weird, most of all is depressing. No wonder the director went crazy after making the anime. This anime made me question my life, the meaning of my existence, and that's some screwed up sht. So don't recommend this anime that much, but yes there are some cool as kicking moment.
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