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Ergo proxy conclusion -- spoilers.
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For those who do not know about Ergo proxy, here is the wikipedia link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergo_proxy

I'm going to post spoilers for the show from here onwards so be warned. It's not inside a spoiler tag since this entire topic is a spoiler.

These are the conclusions i've come to after watching the show. I have a few points which are unclear so if you agree or disagree -- let me know.

1. The Cogito virus is something autoraves get when they come in contact with the proxy -- initially. After that, an infected autorave can pass it on to the next one.

2. The virus gives them a soul so makes them more human. (But why do they go mad and try to kill humans, how to do know the route to take to the exit and why do they all follow the same exit route and what do they expect to find in the outside.)

3. Vincent Law created Romdeue but got fed up and walked away leaving his memories and a female proxy called Monad in charge.

4. Real Mayer is a clone of Monad or something close. I mean REal 2 grows wings and gets called Monad ... right?

5. Each proxy is in charge of a dome but each dome seemed to have fallen. Wonder why

6. Proxies perish in sunlight -- apart from Vincent. Why?

I'll think up of some more but what do you think.


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Just wanted to post since I like ergo proxy but got nothing to say
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aidannwn wrote:

For those who do not know about Ergo proxy, here is the wikipedia link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergo_proxy

I'm going to post spoilers for the show from here onwards so be warned. It's not inside a spoiler tag since this entire topic is a spoiler.

These are the conclusions i've come to after watching the show. I have a few points which are unclear so if you agree or disagree -- let me know.

1. The Cogito virus is something autoraves get when they come in contact with the proxy -- initially. After that, an infected autorave can pass it on to the next one.

2. The virus gives them a soul so makes them more human. (But why do they go mad and try to kill humans, how to do know the route to take to the exit and why do they all follow the same exit route and what do they expect to find in the outside.)

3. Vincent Law created Romdeue but got fed up and walked away leaving his memories and a female proxy called Monad in charge.

4. Real Mayer is a clone of Monad or something close. I mean REal 2 grows wings and gets called Monad ... right?

5. Each proxy is in charge of a dome but each dome seemed to have fallen. Wonder why

6. Proxies perish in sunlight -- apart from Vincent. Why?

I'll think up of some more but what do you think.




ok i just finished it not more than 2 mins ago.

1 i agree with number one.

2.yes it gives then a soul and makes them more human. im not sure and its only a guess but i think they go crazy and try to kill people because the virues comes from the ergo proxy,it being the proxy of death so they are only trying to do as he is suposed to. they all know the way out because they are infected with part of the ergo proxy's personality ( and vincent used that way to get out the first time he left. )

3.he left but he did not leave monad in charge the people of romdeue stole her from moskow( where vincent was living. ) and he followed her back to romdeue. ( ergo proxy left real mayer's granpa in charge )

4.um nope ^^ she is just human. ( real-2 grows wings cause the doctor guy planted proxy cells from monad in her so thats why she grew wings she became monad. )

5.i agree on that one to some extent i think that each proxy made there own dome thing.

6.i have no clue.

hope i could help in some way and sorry for my spelling and grammer english is still a bit new to me.
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i do not get why this anime was rated that high around 8.5 >.>

personally this was a 7.3

the story was somewhat "emo" as one might call it
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i do not get why this anime was rated that high around 8.5 >.>

personally this was a 7.3

the story was somewhat "emo" as one might call it


I do wish Vincent had grown a personality before the last two episodes. Really, he's such a doormat which makes it all the more frustrating
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aidannwn wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

i do not get why this anime was rated that high around 8.5 >.>

personally this was a 7.3

the story was somewhat "emo" as one might call it


I do wish Vincent had grown a personality before the last two episodes. Really, he's such a doormat which makes it all the more frustrating


yea that is pretty much which killed the story V_V
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AnimeKami wrote:

i do not get why this anime was rated that high around 8.5 >.>

personally this was a 7.3

the story was somewhat "emo" as one might call it


more like 6.5
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detroitballaboy wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

i do not get why this anime was rated that high around 8.5 >.>

personally this was a 7.3

the story was somewhat "emo" as one might call it


more like 6.5


if it is that low i would of dropped it instead of finishing it lol
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aidannwn wrote:

For those who do not know about Ergo proxy, here is the wikipedia link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergo_proxy

I'm going to post spoilers for the show from here onwards so be warned. It's not inside a spoiler tag since this entire topic is a spoiler.

These are the conclusions i've come to after watching the show. I have a few points which are unclear so if you agree or disagree -- let me know.

1. The Cogito virus is something autoraves get when they come in contact with the proxy -- initially. After that, an infected autorave can pass it on to the next one.

2. The virus gives them a soul so makes them more human. (But why do they go mad and try to kill humans, how to do know the route to take to the exit and why do they all follow the same exit route and what do they expect to find in the outside.)

3. Vincent Law created Romdeue but got fed up and walked away leaving his memories and a female proxy called Monad in charge.

4. Real Mayer is a clone of Monad or something close. I mean REal 2 grows wings and gets called Monad ... right?

5. Each proxy is in charge of a dome but each dome seemed to have fallen. Wonder why

6. Proxies perish in sunlight -- apart from Vincent. Why?

I'll think up of some more but what do you think.



Well dern it, have to re-type...

1. No comment. The Cogito never made much sense to me.

2. The Cogito removes behavior rules and inhibitors in the autoraves' programming. It doesn't automatically make them crazy. When an autorave infected with Cogito looses their raison d'etre, then they go crazy, but don't always try to kill humans.

3. Ergo Proxy created Romdo (Romdeux). When he got too depressed, he abandoned it to Donov Mayer, and fled to Monad, who lived in Mosco (Moscow). It was later on after he tricked himself into thinking he erased his memories that he became Vincent.

4. Real Mayer is Real Mayer, a being created by Ergo for him to love. Monad was brought back to life by Daedalus, who built her new body in the form of Real, calling her Real-2.

5. Right. But all/most of the other domes have fallen either because everyone died or their Proxy died. Or, like Moso, they get invaded.

6. Their cells are susceptible to sunlight. This is a genetic change in their already non-human bodies caused by the Awakening, in turn triggered by the return of the Old Humans. Ergo Proxy forcefully stopped the change, so his is immune.

Go to http://anikimeiski.blogspot.com/search/label/Ergo%20Proxy エルゴプラクシー for a good summary of Ergo Proxy, though there are some conclusions I disagree with.

Oh, and this topic made me finally give in and join Crunchyroll... just never had a reason to before.
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AnimeKami wrote:


detroitballaboy wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

i do not get why this anime was rated that high around 8.5 >.>

personally this was a 7.3

the story was somewhat "emo" as one might call it


more like 6.5


if it is that low i would of dropped it instead of finishing it lol


i can't really rate an anime if i haven't seen every single episode of it.

That's why I never leave an anime series unwatched.
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i was hoping for more real mayer and vincent moments.oh well,i still like the show
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AnimeKami wrote:


detroitballaboy wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

i do not get why this anime was rated that high around 8.5 >.>

personally this was a 7.3

the story was somewhat "emo" as one might call it


more like 6.5


if it is that low i would of dropped it instead of finishing it lol


You should watch it. It's by the creators of cowboy bebop and not that bad. THe ending leaves you hoping for another season but in the end, it also gets you thinking

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aidannwn wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:


detroitballaboy wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

i do not get why this anime was rated that high around 8.5 >.>

personally this was a 7.3

the story was somewhat "emo" as one might call it


more like 6.5


if it is that low i would of dropped it instead of finishing it lol


You should watch it. It's by the creators of cowboy bebop and not that bad. THe ending leaves you hoping for another season but in the end, it also gets you thinking



o no i've seen the ending, well all of it, if it weren't for th ending i would of rated it lower
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detroitballaboy wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

i do not get why this anime was rated that high around 8.5 >.>

personally this was a 7.3

the story was somewhat "emo" as one might call it


more like 6.5


more like a 6.0
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Ergo Proxy was actually extremely deep and not for the shallow of mind. It has been a while since I watched it, but I remember being blown away at some of the themes and questions it posed. It appeals to philosophers or thinkers, and is not a "light" anime for entertainment only.

A lot of the superficially boring episodes actually posed existential questions and arguments on the concept of God, the nature of humanity versus the characteristics of humanity, modern society, and so on. It deserves at least a 9 for pure sophistication. The fact that it appears to have gone completely over most people's heads should not detract anyone from watching this anime.
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