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Posted 8/30/08 , edited 8/30/08
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Ok! Ren's father is Takumi but who is the mother? I dont think it is Reira but maybe it is Hachiko! and more important.... are Satsuki and Ren twins!? And why they live in different countries??




Satsuki is similar to takumi, for her hair
Ren has really similar hair to Hachiko


The word Satsuki consists of two Japanese kanji characters; “Sa”, which is an old term for five, and “Tsuki”, which is the word for moon. Satsuki therefore means fifth moon, in other words the fifth moon of the oriental lunar calendar. This is equivalent to around June in our calendar and refers to the flowering period, as Satsuki Azalea flower around late May or early June.

Ren in japanese means "water lily" or 蓮 "lotus" or 恋 "romance, love" , "eloquence". Also 蓮, 恋



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Posted 9/1/08
thats new! thanks 4 the spoilers! i will post after i read that part of the manga!
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Posted 9/3/08
i was thinking that reira is the mother... is it confirmed that his dad is takumi???? well, as we can see, he has merely the same features with shin-chan... isn't it confusing??? but anyhow, the point where they are twins can be counted too but why do they live in different places?/?
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Posted 9/3/08
ren-lotus or the like... its a wild flower...
Posted 9/3/08

micon wrote:

i was thinking that reira is the mother... is it confirmed that his dad is takumi???? well, as we can see, he has merely the same features with shin-chan... isn't it confusing??? but anyhow, the point where they are twins can be counted too but why do they live in different places?/?


i m quite sure about takumi... and i ve also thougth at first that the father was shin and the mother reira... u r rigth it s kinda confusing....!!!!
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micon wrote:

i was thinking that reira is the mother... is it confirmed that his dad is takumi???? well, as we can see, he has merely the same features with shin-chan... isn't it confusing??? but anyhow, the point where they are twins can be counted too but why do they live in different places?/?


i m quite sure about takumi... and i ve also thougth at first that the father was shin and the mother reira... u r rigth it s kinda confusing....!!!!


soo, if its the case then, we could conclude that its hachi's child, and maybe, it was more likely like shin because she is close to her... well,just a guess...
Posted 9/3/08

micon wrote:


Lolle wrote:


micon wrote:

i was thinking that reira is the mother... is it confirmed that his dad is takumi???? well, as we can see, he has merely the same features with shin-chan... isn't it confusing??? but anyhow, the point where they are twins can be counted too but why do they live in different places?/?


i m quite sure about takumi... and i ve also thougth at first that the father was shin and the mother reira... u r rigth it s kinda confusing....!!!!


soo, if its the case then, we could conclude that its hachi's child, and maybe, it was more likely like shin because she is close to her... well,just a guess...


in my opinion it is hachi's & takumi child... because...


dunno but i think he is her son.... and i kinda hope it...

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Posted 9/3/08

Lolle wrote:


micon wrote:


Lolle wrote:


micon wrote:

i was thinking that reira is the mother... is it confirmed that his dad is takumi???? well, as we can see, he has merely the same features with shin-chan... isn't it confusing??? but anyhow, the point where they are twins can be counted too but why do they live in different places?/?


i m quite sure about takumi... and i ve also thougth at first that the father was shin and the mother reira... u r rigth it s kinda confusing....!!!!


soo, if its the case then, we could conclude that its hachi's child, and maybe, it was more likely like shin because she is close to her... well,just a guess...


in my opinion it is hachi's & takumi child... because...


dunno but i think he is her son.... and i kinda hope it...



yep i do remebr those... yeah, for hachi hasn't any affairs with other men in particular, it was only takumi... and the ren mentioned up there was the bigger ren... and in honor of nana and ren's undying love, she named her child as ren... well look forward in the next chapters...
Posted 9/4/08
if we can say that both kids are Hachi&Takumi's ... why did Jun-chan (I don't remember in what chapter) said something about divorce?... Hachi+Takumi=Divorce...?!? ... but Hachi replied she won't do that.... I'm really confused .....
Posted 9/4/08

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if we can say that both kids are Hachi&Takumi's ... why did Jun-chan (I don't remember in what chapter) said something about divorce?... Hachi+Takumi=Divorce...?!? ... but Hachi replied she won't do that.... I'm really confused .....



I think i understand hachi a bit..... well....


Spoiler Alert
Satsu is her daugther, we cant be sure about ren but the family is completely separete.
Takumi is in england, hachi is growing Satsu 'alone' and what about if young Ren isnt her son?
however he is always the brother of Satsuki!! and why are they in different countries!!! hachi doesnt need more problems!! if they divorc it ll be more difficult! maybe she doesnt want to make suffer Satsuki (and Ren if he's their son)
Posted 9/9/08

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Just-C00ly wrote:

if we can say that both kids are Hachi&Takumi's ... why did Jun-chan (I don't remember in what chapter) said something about divorce?... Hachi+Takumi=Divorce...?!? ... but Hachi replied she won't do that.... I'm really confused .....



I think i understand hachi a bit..... well....


Spoiler Alert
Satsu is her daugther, we cant be sure about ren but the family is completely separete.
Takumi is in england, hachi is growing Satsu 'alone' and what about if young Ren isnt her son?
however he is always the brother of Satsuki!! and why are they in different countries!!! hachi doesnt need more problems!! if they divorc it ll be more difficult! maybe she doesnt want to make suffer Satsuki (and Ren if he's their son)


I guess you're right...I never thought of that....

Posted 9/14/08
okay.... now i think there are 2 possibilities.... comment me about your thoughts please!!
(lets forgot if they r twins or not i ll discuss about it in the future!! ^_^)


1° The most Probably



2° Less probably



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1. a lil bit more to add to ur no.1 i think the reason why Hachi wouldn't want to go to England with Takumi is because she most likely found out about Reira and Takumi and also she is probably waiting for Nana to come back.

2. I don;t think Ren is the son of Reira and Takumi mostly because clearly if he was then Nobou wouldn't constantly be asking Hachi about lil Ren if he was in engalnd with his REAL mommy. It just doesn't make any sense because lil Ren doesn't call Reira mommy he calls her Reira.
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little Ren and Satsuki are twins ... most boy and girl twin usually don't look exactly the same because they are fraternal and not identical! Ren look Hachi and Sa-Chan look like Takumi. As for why Ren is with Takumi and Sa-chan is with Hachi I think Ren go between England and Tokyo to spend time with both Takumi and Hachi .. I don't think Sa-chan like to travel so much
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Posted 10/14/08
I have a feeling that Ren and Satsuki are twins but then I get the feeling that Ren was born before Satsuki but I dunno. I think Yazawa Ai wanted to trick us by making us believe that Hachi's first born would be a girl but she really has a boy. That would give reason to Takumi always insisting that the baby will be a boy and also how Hachi was trying to think of another name for a boy besides "Ren" that was a flower after "adult" Ren gave Hachi Satsuki's name.

Ren wants to stay in England because I think that's where Reira is living and also there was a hint that Ren doesn't like Japan or school; that he just wants to play the guitar so Reira can sing. Takumi said that as long as Ren plays the guitar, Reira will keep singing. So Ren must feel like it's his duty to stay with Reira. Hachi doesn't leave Japan to live with Takumi and Ren because she believes that Nana will return one day to Japan and Room 707 so that's why her little family is split up. She can't sacrifice her hope of seeing Nana again to reunite her family. That's why Takumi was all sad when Naoki came to visit him in England and he said how he doesn't blame Nana (Hachi) for not coming to live with him because of how he "simply" sacrificed everything for his job. And now that his precious job was over, he realized how much Nana (Hachi) really meant to him. But I'm personally glad that Hachi doesn't go to live with Takumi in England. I'm still upset with how he kept cheating on her; I wish she would get back with Nobu (even though I love Takumi/Hachi, I feel like Takumi doesn't deserve Hachi...).
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