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I was re-reading NANA and I just can't get over why didn't takumi just treat NANA like the other women he slept with in the past I mean looking at his character it always makes me wonder i guess I mean I know hachi always thinks about her relationships too much about herself and when it came to takumi she put herself down alot too the point in some way she understood she wasn't good enough for him.

But still in takumi perspective it always makes me wonder what made him go back to her for more of her as herself?
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that title of your post makes me smile ... in my point of view it wasn't a surprise because hachi is a remarkable girl i mean she's really amazing she has this extraordinary charm that makes people around her fell for her. Look how nana reacts towards hachi although she treated her like a pet but she was so obsessed with her. Nobu fall in love with her and even shin was so attached to hachi. so, when takumi enter the scene he was no exemption. The fight he had with nobu reminded him of hachi so he make the second move which the result of unsteady relationship. But the time where hachi cried in takumi’s arms without saying anything not even pleading for love, not expecting anything in return probably takumi realized how wonderful she is and so he commit a statement saying I don’t want you to hand to anyone I want you to be only mine.. I think that even takumi still slept with other women after that but he never love them as he love hachi
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that title of your post makes me smile ... in my point of view it wasn't a surprise because hachi is a remarkable girl i mean she's really amazing she has this extraordinary charm that makes people around her fell for her. Look how nana reacts towards hachi although she treated her like a pet but she was so obsessed with her. Nobu fall in love with her and even shin was so attached to hachi. so, when takumi enter the scene he was no exemption. The fight he had with nobu reminded him of hachi so he make the second move which the result of unsteady relationship. But the time where hachi cried in takumi’s arms without saying anything not even pleading for love, not expecting anything in return probably takumi realized how wonderful she is and so he commit a statement saying I don’t want you to hand to anyone I want you to be only mine.. I think that even takumi still slept with other women after that but he never love them as he love hachi


I agree I love takumi and hachi because they are the most human relationship I have ever seen but once and awhile I sit down and anaysis takumi and his way of thinking but I always end up like what? lol I think during that "relationship" He didn't sleep with other women which surprised me lol But hachi is so cute how can anyone hate her ^_^ she balances him out he needed someone like her in his life looking how sad his life was he needed a family which he never had. I want to see him now how he acts like father ^_^ that would interest me the most and I love that now the two of them are more settled and there is no fighting but I cannot help that but wonder what will happen in the future.
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At first I just thought Takumi was a heartless jerk now I feel like I can understand him.(at least to a certain point). I think you're right about Hachi balancing him out. I can't wait to see what kind of father he'll become now.
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I think takumi likes or loves Hachi b/c she is the 1st girl who didn't ask takumi for anything in return. hachi just loved takumi b/c he was takumi and nothing else. she accepted the fact that he was a workaholic, cold, and a playboy. i think this touched takumi b/c many of the girls he was w/ were too shallow. hachi really wants to support and take care of takumi and this really touched his heart b/c he's always the one who has to pick up the pieces after everyone else. plus he stresses out over a lot of things (taking care of trapnest, making sure reira is happy, being the leader/businessman of trapnest). I think takumi also likes/loves hachi b/c she's very maternal. takumi grew up in a broken home. his mom was sick, his sister was always working, and his dad was an alcoholic. since he was kid, he knew that he had to do things on his own in order to make it in life. so he never really encountered that maternal figure. i think hachi brings the loving home that he always wanted. i also think hachi eases his life b/c she's doing her best to make him feel comfortable. So i think the shirogane mansion is very relaxing b/c it's the first time that somebody is taking care of him. I also feel that takumi wants to take care of hachi. he did tell ren that he's going to hell but he just wants hachi and the baby to have a normal life.

Despite the fact that takumi may look cool and reserved underneath that exterior is an insecurity. he has communication problems and tries to solve everything by himself, which may result in a bad decision (example cheating on hachi with reira despite the fact he only did this b/c he wanted to make reira happy b/c he thinks of her as a sister). he defintely takes hachi for granted and it's easy to manipulate her. but i believe he regrets it b/c in the flashforwards he seems very unhappy.

i can't really give a definite answer on why he loves hachi. you love who you love, right? but i do remember takumi telling ren in one of the early chapters when hachi and takumi were beginning their affar, that takumi said that even though he doesn't think about hachi a a lot but when he does he can't stop thinking about her. ren responded that it's b/c he loves her and takumi didn't deny it (he didn't say anything).

also, in the beginning of their relationship. takumi was very possessive her. he even told her that hachi should only be his and that nobody else should be with her. he also said that she should only worry about making him happy. i think that's when his love for her was developing.
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I agree with grprsa on how Takumi doesn't treat Hachi like all the other women he's been with because she didn't ask/expect something in return. She understands what he does and might not like it, but she accepts him for who he is with all his flaws. Hachi also provides Takumi with a place to come home to. He never had someone who actually cared for him. In some ways, you can look at that as a mother complex. haha
The easiest way to think about their relationship, I think, is to say that in some ways Hachi both reminds him of himself and also possesses all the qualities he lacks. Takumi was there for Hachi in a time that she was most vulnerable. Hachi in a lot of ways is flawed too because she also cheated on him and she shows a determination in doing what she wants. I mean, look at the times she ran away from Takumi because she felt what she was doing was right. I think they provide what the other person needs. Hachi needs someone to keep her grounded and be conscious of the world due to her naivete. Takumi never softens the blow for her. I don't think he's the type of person who would think that avoiding a problem will make it go away. Takumi grew up in an environment where you just learn to adapt to whatever hardships come your way because he never had someone there to help him. Hachi on the other hand, grew up in a very sheltered environment due to her loving family. So Takumi forces her to face the realities of the world. And Takumi well.. needs the opposite. haha
I also think that Takumi only really shows who he is in front of Hachi. On the outside, usually he's a cold, heartless jerk. But with Hachi, he doesn't have to put up that wall because he knows they understand each other.
But.. can we really have a say in who we love? I also agree with grprsa... You love who you love.
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