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Do you think Metal is Falling?
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Posted 3/31/07

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Nazareeni wrote:

Yeah i don't know if this thread allready exists or not but i just wanna say that i ain't that interested in playing Thrash and Heavy Metal no more since theres now shitty stuff like metalcore and screamo. Metal used to be cool in the 80's but it's all dissapeared thanks to the n00bs of today.


... you're 15. Somehow i think most of what you know about the 80s has come from VH1. I don't think you're terribly qualified to speak about it so authoritatively.

The metal mainstream and the metal underground are two very different places. Once in a while a good band manages to pop in the mainstream, but mainstream metal has been pretty mediocre since the early 90s. Even 80s mainstream metal had it's problems (hair metal anyone?), though all the awesome thrash bands helped make up for it. Occasionally a decent band will slip through, but not often enough to rely on the mainstream.

There has been a ton of amazing metal come out since the 80s, none of it has ever graced your radio though. America has even made quite a bit of contributions to the underground metal scene, though Europe is hands down the land of metal. I don't know enough about asian metal to comment on it though (there is a whole thread dedicated to it if that's your cup of tea).

Essentially, metal in the underground has become (mainly) Thrash, Death, Power, and Black Metal (with many subgenre's of each of those). Each one of those of genre's has essential bands worth listening to. If you dig thrash metal, check out some Power Metal. Dragonforce is a band that has enjoyed mainstream success and are damned awesome in my book, and way less corny than many other power metal bands out there.

I was going to post some bands, but just check out wikipedia for articles on the genre's I mentioned, then look those bands up on youtube to see what they sound like.



yeah well my music teacher agrees, and she was born in 1973!!!
actually she says that thrash was crap, she actually enjoyed bands like Van Halen n that

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lololol he tripped him over! XD



I'm an amateur at all this but, the first guy sounded like he was playing prelude from the final fantasy series
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metal will never die, it will last forever
lol it was so funny when that guy tripped

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No matter how much metal branches out, it will always be here!! Oh yeah and ^ I almost fell out my chair when I saw him trip!
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Posted 3/31/07

Nazareeni wrote:


azrael910 wrote:


Nazareeni wrote:

Yeah i don't know if this thread allready exists or not but i just wanna say that i ain't that interested in playing Thrash and Heavy Metal no more since theres now shitty stuff like metalcore and screamo. Metal used to be cool in the 80's but it's all dissapeared thanks to the n00bs of today.


... you're 15. Somehow i think most of what you know about the 80s has come from VH1. I don't think you're terribly qualified to speak about it so authoritatively.

The metal mainstream and the metal underground are two very different places. Once in a while a good band manages to pop in the mainstream, but mainstream metal has been pretty mediocre since the early 90s. Even 80s mainstream metal had it's problems (hair metal anyone?), though all the awesome thrash bands helped make up for it. Occasionally a decent band will slip through, but not often enough to rely on the mainstream.

There has been a ton of amazing metal come out since the 80s, none of it has ever graced your radio though. America has even made quite a bit of contributions to the underground metal scene, though Europe is hands down the land of metal. I don't know enough about asian metal to comment on it though (there is a whole thread dedicated to it if that's your cup of tea).

Essentially, metal in the underground has become (mainly) Thrash, Death, Power, and Black Metal (with many subgenre's of each of those). Each one of those of genre's has essential bands worth listening to. If you dig thrash metal, check out some Power Metal. Dragonforce is a band that has enjoyed mainstream success and are damned awesome in my book, and way less corny than many other power metal bands out there.

I was going to post some bands, but just check out wikipedia for articles on the genre's I mentioned, then look those bands up on youtube to see what they sound like.



yeah well my music teacher agrees, and she was born in 1973!!!
actually she says that thrash was crap, she actually enjoyed bands like Van Halen n that

*Don't double post

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all i have to say is that over the years metal has evolved in good ways and bad
good ways being industrial, melodic and power metal,
BAD being emo metal due to emo metal is for pussys and fags
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Nazareeni wrote:

Yeah i don't know if this thread allready exists or not but i just wanna say that i ain't that interested in playing Thrash and Heavy Metal no more since theres now shitty stuff like metalcore and screamo. Apparently metal used to be cool in the 80's but it's all dissapeared thanks to the n00bs of today.


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well the only bands of old i like are sabbath, Crue, Slayer, Dio, Pantera, Cannibal Corpse and Iron Maiden
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Xrn_the_Nigma wrote:


Nazareeni wrote:

Yeah i don't know if this thread allready exists or not but i just wanna say that i ain't that interested in playing Thrash and Heavy Metal no more since theres now shitty stuff like metalcore and screamo. Apparently metal used to be cool in the 80's but it's all dissapeared thanks to the n00bs of today.


Metal in the 80's wasn't that good at all.........Especially because hair metal bands populated the scene at the time.........
As Patton Oswald said and I quote "If you liked heavy metal in the 80's, then you were gay..." unquote...........
Metal was great in the 70's although I wasn't alive I still have old records from my grandfather...........Then in the 80's he stopped listening to it because it was depressing to see how far the genre had fallen..........



So... Slayer, Megadeth, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Sepultura all sucked during the 1980s? Even though some of those bands fell apart in 90s, they were still good in the 80s. Yes, metal had a lot of problems in the 80s and has become overglorified by newer fans, but that doesn't discount all the good thrash metal that was going on, as well as the early black and death metal bands that were getting started. It's the same situation metal has always been in. The mainstream success reflects poorly on what's going on behind the curtain. In the 80s and early 90s, it was hair metal. In the mid 90s to early 2000s, it was nu-metal and shock rock, in the late 2000s it's emo/screamo crap. All the while gold was being made in the underground for every generation of metal.

Just what are you classifying as "metal" from the 70s as well? The line between hard rock and metal is a very thin one back in the 70s. Aside from the NWOBHM stuff, very little is consistently reffered to as metal, though Black Sabbath is typically considered metal.
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Metallica's new crap sucks pretty bad
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gto734 wrote:

Metallica's new crap sucks pretty bad


They've sucked since 1991 when they released the black album. I try to think of old Metallica and new Metallica as two different bands.
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I think your just not in for metal but in our country and asia its still famous and screamo too
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tabskiboy wrote:

I think your just not in for metal but in our country and asia its still famous and screamo too



what country are u from?
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Especially nu metal...most of them considered as passe..
Posted 8/29/07
Yes... metal is falling, or even has already fallen.
Practically any mainstream metal is produced by bands who can't play their instruments.

The things you can do with a recording studio are amazing, and I still listen to some "new" metal because I enjoy it.
On the whole though I would say that metal lost it's way in the 80's (as has already been stated). Though there are still bands from that time who are worthy of recognition.
The main thing I look for in any band is whether they can play their instruments, to be honest Metallica can't, Kirk Hammett should stick to thrashing and stop trying to play solos.

I listen to metal in the likes of Maiden, Priest, Testament, Van Halen, Rainbow, Guns 'n' Roses etc.
Those people got something right, they could play their instruments, work together well as a group and write music!
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