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Portrayal of Women in Anime
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Majinryuu wrote:

I fail to see where I can put "Tsundere" into those categories. Or atleast relates to one of 'em.
Perhaps you can enlighten me?

Bitch, since their actions usually warrants a "What's your problem? You mean bitch"
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Anime often portrays women as chaste and unliking of sex, while men are most often portrayed as sluts.
Anime often portrays women as weaker than men, and when a woman hits someone, it's often for mere comedic value and not treated with any seriousness.
Men are treated to protect women, and the women enjoy the sentiment of the men in this.
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Majinryuu wrote:

I fail to see where I can put "Tsundere" into those categories. Or atleast relates to one of 'em.
Perhaps you can enlighten me?

Bitch, since their actions usually warrants a "What's your problem? You mean bitch"


But also, atleast 3/8 of their time shown in shows warrants a "Love me damnit! Why don't you look at me?"
or something like that.

Oh, and Bitch is quite a WEE BIT......far off from what your description of a strong girl is.
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apparently we all have big boobs and it doesn't hurt to run while they're flapping about -____- lol




nope it sure does'nt
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Anime often portrays women as chaste and unliking of sex, while men are most often portrayed as sluts.
Anime often portrays women as weaker than men, and when a woman hits someone, it's often for mere comedic value and not treated with any seriousness.
Men are treated to protect women, and the women enjoy the sentiment of the men in this.


you do relize that anime is about Japanese cluture and it kinda like that there.


i did kind of laugh when the domanate girl in clannad gets called a boy because women can't fight says themain characters best friend
Posted 9/6/08

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thenatureofthings wrote:

apparently we all have big boobs and it doesn't hurt to run while they're flapping about -____- lol




nope it sure doesn't


*twitches* you've got to be kidding me >.> *sees that you're a male* yeah, nevermind.... I don't want your input! lol
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Clavesoon has a very good point. Mainstream hollywood films have conventions and I don't even want to start on that. Also I think most of the anime the topic author has been watching are comedy oriented or those similar to Clannad (male oriented harem/romance type). I agree with the topic author that the srong girl can be quiet while the 1st type of girl can be outgoing and loud (but she doesn't have to be too loud of course), However, those characters are basically absent in the types of anime I mentioned above, which are relatively more "mainstream" than other types of anime among anime watchers (correct me if I am wrong). I think one of the reasons that those anime have relatively simplified characterization (so simplified to the point that it is tiring) is that characterization is not the focus (because the watchers usually don't look for that in them. They look for comedy or ecchi. In a sexist culture it's OK for males to be self-centered so they are not interested in female characterization.) here and it takes less work for the author to somewhat copy from other anime. Remember anime is highly commercalized so "copying" wouldn't be surprising.

That's why I prefer serious-themed anime rather than comedy, in which the characters are at least not that exaggerated or have a least a bit more complexity if characterization is the focus of the anime.
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I dunno. It seems to be fairly difficult to portray character and show every nuance that is different about them. Of course, that may be a failure to notice on the part of the viewer...but eh, what can ya do? Some people I know would say that if you have a problem with it, create your own anime.
I think I will disagree. Someone please classify Louise of Zero no Tsukaima if you can, as she can prove to be quite weak and tends to screw up more with magic than she solves.
BTW, I must say I agree with whoever said that the whole romance thing, exist only for the men thing. I have no clue whether that's because of the raging hormones age, but it does develop a bit too quickly and gets a tad old.
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Jupman wrote:
you do relize that anime is about Japanese cluture and it kinda like that there.

I have my reservations about believing Japan is like an anime.
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No, Japan is not like anime. But what we see in anime can reflect some aspects of Japanese culture.
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Posted 9/6/08

thenatureofthings wrote:


Jupman wrote:


thenatureofthings wrote:

apparently we all have big boobs and it doesn't hurt to run while they're flapping about -____- lol




nope it sure doesn't


*twitches* you've got to be kidding me >.> *sees that you're a male* yeah, nevermind.... I don't want your input! lol


i said i was leaving

but



i was joking sweetie
Posted 9/6/08 , edited 9/6/08
For some reason, it seems that I accidently deleted my post last time, meh.



Just so you don't get confused
Sex is what is determined by your genitals/genetics
Gender is determined by society, what is masculine and what is feminine


Ahh, sorry about that. I wasn't paying much attention to the words that I was using. But I see no reason of how it would be a big course of change in my argument.
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ukkonkivi wrote:


Jupman wrote:
you do relize that anime is about Japanese cluture and it kinda like that there.

I have my reservations about believing Japan is like an anime.


no anime is like Japan that what i am trying to say


but not to the extremes that anime takes it to. but if you know anything about japan you can see its clutrue in anime.
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Posted 9/6/08

Majinryuu wrote:


FlavorAmazing wrote:


Majinryuu wrote:

I fail to see where I can put "Tsundere" into those categories. Or atleast relates to one of 'em.
Perhaps you can enlighten me?

Bitch, since their actions usually warrants a "What's your problem? You mean bitch"


But also, atleast 3/8 of their time shown in shows warrants a "Love me damnit! Why don't you look at me?"
or something like that.

Oh, and Bitch is quite a WEE BIT......far off from what your description of a strong girl is.


Ya that is so true. I would say its more like 5/8th with the "Love me damnit! Why don't you look at me?" attitude. Most animes play on stereotypes usually on women, old people ...etc even though none of them reflect japanese society (who knows why they are like that?)

Anime stereotypes:

1.) all old men are perverts
2.) major female characters are all "love me damnit"
3.) the main character always has a window seat in the classroom
4.) you'll always have one episode where someone will wear kimoto (even if it has nothing to do with the storyline).
5.) guys are pathetic and clueless
6.) hair will never be a natural colour
7.) women have big chests and large twinkling eyes
8.) main character is always in “fighting and never give up” mode

http://pascalg.wordpress.com/2007/04/15/japanese-anime-stereotypes/
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Well then Japan is very sexist, and that is unfortunately.
But I'll continue to believe that anime is almost nothing like Japan.
It's a bad stereotype about us anime fans that we think anime is like Japan.

It's also a stereotype that Western guys like me think that Asian women are submissive.
I'm not going to fall into that either.
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