Manga Discussion

MattChristy wrote:

Referring to what Naruto said in 415, I believe he is referring to the "perfect Rasengan" that he was told he has the potential to create. The RasenShuriken is indeed a formidable attack, but as he was told, Sasuke's lightning element could unfortunately beat it. I think Naruto is trying to perfect the Rasengan to fight Sasuke.

pchery18 wrote:



Whoah, back up a sec! when did they say the rasenshuriken could be beat by lightning element? Isn't wind elemental justus have advantage over lightning based ones? I'm pretty sure it could maybe lose to a fire type but bust that rasenshuriken vs even kirin and Sasuke would lose ( I mean, they're both pretty wide-scaled attacks but naruto would hold advantage thx to the wind-based technique)

MattChristy wrote:



Well maybe I misread
even so, he hasn't perfected the Rasengan yet, and I'm pretty sure thats what hes talking about. I could be wrong though.

BurningLuxray wrote:



The Fuuton RasenShuriken is the perfect rasengan but it damages the user slightly so i believe naruto thinks he could use the sage chakra to counter that and shield him from harm.

BurningLuxray wrote:



The Fuuton RasenShuriken is the perfect rasengan but it damages the user slightly so i believe naruto thinks he could use the sage chakra to counter that and shield him from harm.

Elessarion wrote:



How about Jiraiya's Ultimate Rasengan?

MattChristy wrote:



Jiraiya's ultimate Rasengan was just a really really big Rasengan, something similar to Naruto's Oodama Rasengan that he uses against the fake Itachi. The RasenShuriken is much more devastatingly powerful, but its my personal opinion that it is still not perfect. There are so many conditions that must be met, and its required that Naruto use shadow clones as a distraction in order to make contact with the technique.

BurningLuxray wrote:



Oroma Rasengan, not Oodama...

MattChristy wrote:



Jiraiya's ultimate Rasengan was just a really really big Rasengan, something similar to Naruto's Oodama Rasengan that he uses against the fake Itachi. The RasenShuriken is much more devastatingly powerful, but its my personal opinion that it is still not perfect. There are so many conditions that must be met, and its required that Naruto use shadow clones as a distraction in order to make contact with the technique.

Having been taught the Rasengan from his old student, Jiraiya eventually developed his own version, the Super Great Ball Rasengan. In comparison to Naruto's Great Ball Rasengan (Odama Rasengan or Big Ball Spiraling Sphere), the Super Great Ball Rasengan is roughly larger than Jiraiya's own body and can be used in one hand. Jiraiya has only used this technique while in his Hermit Mode and has since had it absorbed by one of Pain's body summons so its capabilities are unknown, most likely an extremely larger scale of the effects of a regular Ōdama Rasengan.

Elessarion wrote:



Your right, Jiraiya's ultimate Rasengan is very very powerful, and more powerful than the oodama rasengan, but it is not more powerful than Naruto's RasenShuriken.