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So it looks like they gave us a clue on how sauske is going to deal with naruto. His going to compleate his susanoo since we know now that ifs as strong a tail beast. I will be a madara vs senju in modern times. I wonder if naruro and sauske would surpass madara and senju.


I wonder if sauske knows that there is no konoha to destroy?


Tobi told him soon after Naruto convinced Nagato to resurrect everyone he killed in the attack.
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Ya, but the Elders are what his main focus was. From what I can tell. They are still alive.

I love how people agree with me on term of this war. Some of us agree that Kishimoto could've done an better job at this war with few characters.

like this.

Juugo vs Kimimaro would be very character developing

Lee vs Kimimaro would be good to show if/how Lee improved since Part I (Sasuke Retrieval Team)

Suigetsu vs Mangetsu as a Hozuki duel instead of kenjutsu duel would be awesome and character developing as well

Shikimaru vs Hidan maybe not - he defeated him in really good way anyway

Jiraya died a good death, just like Kisame, so Naruto vs Jiraya would be an good idea.

Gaara vs Goldkage should be better, just like Kankurō vs Sasori, I agree with that

Matches like Kiba vs Sakon and Ukon and Kidomaru vs Neji would be a really good idea. They should show their improvement, just like Team Asuma had a chance.

Hizashi vs Hiashi should be expanded, or just like you said, Hizashi should fight against Neji and Hinata (again - to show hers improvement)

Torune should be used to face Shino, Aburame fight of this level would be entertaining

And Hanzo should show us some of his skills before facing Mifune, his short (though indeed splendid) performance left me unsatisfied.

People are 'assuming' that Kishi will give Sasuke's Susanoo an final upgrade like Madara. But I don't think he would cause it would ruin the epicness. Cause Madara was able to summon 'Perfect Susanoo' cause he is Edo & he has Rinnengan & Senju.

Cause that like Itachi. He has summon Susanoo yet he has no longer have any illness holding him up. We have yet to understand the 'full lenght' of what EMS can do. All we know is. EMS won't go blind like MS.
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Actually, I disagree with quite a few thins. Some things I agree with because they're pretty obvious. I mean, the style in which he's igniting fights clearly shows that he wanted people to fight their former comrades and stuff. It would be a real pain in the arse to arrange everything, considering he has tight deadlines each week so he's not able to fit everything in. The same could go for the Anime team in terms of expanding fights as well.

Having fights that involve Suigetsu and Juugo would be very difficult - they're prisoners that escaped so they would need to be extremely lucky (or unlucky) to be able to fight their brothers (both in literal sense and not) without having the allied Shinobi forces or the Zetsu army interfering. Basically, he would have to probably introduce a few more plot holes in order to make it happen as well, given the time constraints.

I disagree on Shikamaru having round 2 against Hidan, it would just show the latter get his arse handed to him even faster than last time. Wouldn't be very interesting. Jiraya's at the bottom of a massive body of water just like Konan now, this clearly shows that Kishi had no more plans to use Jiraya in the series except outside of flashbacks or maybe some kind of hallucination later (could happen).

Gaara's fight against his father was enough for me, and it made sense. Sure, Kishi could have added large bodies of sand and gold smashing into each other violently and sand spears and other projectiles smashing into each other in an awesome display, but I can see why he did what he did for two reasons: 1, he wanted it to be more of an emotional fight to give Gaara more character development (I mean come on, who didn't shed a tear when Gaara was crying?) and 2, he didn't want to make it unrealistic the amount of chakra Gaara (and indeed Onoki) were using in their fights before then having to deal with Madara. They're Kages, but they're not powerhouses (Gaara's not a Jinchuuriki anymore either)!

I agree that there should be more elaboration on some fights, but I get the feeling it would have been difficult for Hinata and Neji to bring themselves to kill Hizashi, but considering how far they've come from what we've seen in their prolonged fight against the Zetsus, they're doing well. Better having a brother vs brother fight in my opinion, which is what Kishi did.

Getting Torune to fight Shino would be difficult, but not impossible. In the midst of the battle against the Zetsus or indeed later on perhaps, Kabuto could have introduced one zombie who them summons more, including Torune. Then, Shino could have insisted on handling him personally. So I agree with you on this one.

I do think Hanzo could have showed a bit more fight, but I think maybe one more chapter would have been sufficient with just a few more pages of that and maybe a few pages extending some of the other fights.

I'm 'assuming' a lot of things mate. There's the fact that the potential is there to make a full-blown Susano'o or something else that's razzle-dazzle, maybe with a spin on Madara's so it's more original. Or, he just sticks with his current power and it gets enhanced or his armoury is added to or some sort of knowledge, basically ANYTHING can come from that scroll Suigetsu retrieved. Like you said, the EMS has a lot of unknowns, so let's see what Kishi can come up with.
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Hey, if you guys have seen part one of this awesome live-action(ish) production and enjoyed it you'll love this!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dZqvv2126k&feature=g-u-ua

If not, here's part one if you're interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAl2DWNukbs&feature=relmfu

I know this isn't really about the manga and not canon (who cares anyway?!) but I couldn't find the live action thread so it's here instead.

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Oh yeah, I remember why I didn't just make a new forum post. Why? Because I made one regarding rumours about concept art Kishi made showing characters in different lights but no-one has replied to it so I didn't see the point of making one there since it seems all the attention is focused on this and the Anime thread.
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I would normal make an post on that not in the manga.

Ya, the first one was bad ass.

I hope the next one will be the final one.

From what I kept on hearing is what I been thinking that. This week might be the last of the war, but if it goes as what im thinking it would. Madara wont vanish.

Also Kabuto still have Zetsu spur on him. So this whole time Anko was there for no reason in this whole war?
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Yeah, I'll do that next time but it's not really a big deal.

It does seem to be going that way. It also seems that Deidara just spent pretty much all the war captured by Kankuro until he disintegrated. Anko might still have a part to play yet but that remains to be seen. We need to see what has become of Shukaku, the one-tails as well as so far we haven't seen any involvement on his part.

Kishi hasn't shown Madara at all in that chapter so we have no idea if it is working on him or not. Itachi might actually provide the means to stop Madara by giving something to Sasuke. We'll have to wait and see.
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chapter is out
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Indeed it is, and I found it to be very interesting. It seems Itachi's last move was different to what I anticipated, but not too different.
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I was expecting Itachi would show Sasuke in an Gen Jutsu form of view. I was wondering if their's parents understood this or they wanted to fight back. But it seem they knew what was going to happen. So they accept their's fate. It's lame that Danzou didn't let Shisui used his Koto to trance on people. But then again. Danzou assumed that he is still an Uchiha that Danzou didn't want to be betrayed.

Nice chapter.
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I see you guys are alive I was lost in school. Anyway, being a hormonal person this last chapter made me cry. Especially that last seen. Guess this means the story is about to pick up again huh?
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Very nice chapter Itachi finally got the fair well he allways wanted. Now im 100% positive that Itachi would have been the fifth hokage!

Cant wait to see whats going to happen next?

One thing is for sure Sauske is going to go insane on Naruto!
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I expected more from this war, but it looks like it's going to end soon.

In my opinion the war didn't live up to the hype. However it had some good moments and fights.
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Itachi's such a boss. I'm also kinda doubting that Madara would just fade away like the other resurrected shinobi though as he's deemed "special" by Kabuto.
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Ah! I know right. When someone speak of war. We think of an long ass battle. But we can't do nothing bout it.

Ya, Itachi is the bomb, which is why in Kishi interview as an 'real ninja' he stated Itachi was.

I will say that since Madara has Rinnengan, he will find an way out of it like Kikyo did in InuYasha.

I hope we can see more of Shisui
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If you remember in Kishi's interview, he was talking about how a parent would believe in their child no matter what. We saw this when Minato and Kushina sacrificed themselves to give Naruto a better chance to fight his enemies in the future, as well as failsafes to ensure he can keep going because they believed in him even though he had only just been born. We're seeing this again here where Fugaku and Mikoto said that even though Itachi was going to kill them, they were still proud of him, requesting that he protects Sasuke.

The war was rushed in many senses, with half of the combatants dying in the first day alone. I'm pretty sure there are very few zetsu left now after Naruto and his clones took them out. With the Edo Tensei failing and Kabuto seemingly defeated, it seems that all there is left is Sasuke, Tobi and Madara (if he somehow overcomes his current situation) are all that's left to deal with in some form. That's 2/3 out of the previous >100,000 forces. That is a lot of killing in such a short period of time, excluding however many Shinobi are killed in the second day.

As I see it, everyone is getting worn down now. Tobi's running out of assets, Naruto's been burning through his chakra for roughly 24 hours non-stop and Sasuke had a pretty intense fight that would make him under 100%. There's still Jugo and Suigetsu with the mysterious scroll to cover as well. The war might be coming to an end, but the story might last a bit longer.
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