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well I've been saying it was Izuna for a long time, the whole obito thing doesn't make sense. It makes much more sense for it to be Izuna....guess we find out tomorrow.
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chapter is out
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I really don't know what to say anymore. I respect Kishimoto, but the way he did this. It was one sided battle. I mean, we learn of Izuna, to Kagami, to Obito, yet in the end. Kishi went and used Obito. And So now 600 chapter has confirm that Izuna has died in battle. Kagami has died. So Tobi is Obito. Like Slashur said. In up like Nagato story. And Obito purpose revenge was Rin.

So he want us to believe that the person who fought 4th Hokage was Madara same as being the 4th Mizukage. Then that mean Kisame was being 'fooled' same as Itachi being fooled. And that Madara was behind the Akatsuki yet Obito took over.

So sum it up. Madara found Obito then gave him Zetsu then died. Obito took Madara eyes into Nagato. So his rage after losing Rin unlocked his MS.

Now Madara has shown up next to Obito. but the funny thing I've notice is. Kyuubi never once felt that same 'evil' chakra. That he has felt with Madara with Obito.

So now 'assumed' that Kages has lost to Madara or Madara left the place for them to regain their health.

Question now. Is this the end or will they retreat or will there be an time skip.

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i am wondering if madara had killed 1 or 2 uchiha's during 2nd shinobi war or before so he could give nagato his rinnegan, i was disappointed in this chapter tho
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Posted 9/5/12
no answers but more questions have arisen
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Actually, there were answers to some of my questions. First, we know that Obito didn't kill Rin. A theory I had was that Obito was made to kill Rin by Madara to make him more detached from the world and therefore further motivated to obliterate it and bring in the world of the endless illusion. That possibility has been ruled out, so we can move on.

Madara was able to disengage with the five Kage, so it's possible he's killed some of them "offscreen" in order to ditch them or he has some kind of Jutsu or a means of getting to Obito quickly. He definitely knew where to find him, though he may have some kind of link to Kurama that Obito had but lost to Minato therefore Kurama didn't feel the same kind of chakra. Besides, Obito has seemed to have replaced Madara after he died, but it looks like you can fool people, but you can't fool a Tailed Beast. Madara is likely to comment on Obito's plan and he may even kill the latter now that he's been granted a new lease of life, why bother sticking with someone who's already failed (by losing Nagato)? Obito's plan was to bring back a half-arsed Ten Tails and Madara might well be dissatisfied with it. He's already contemplated betraying him before.

Now that Madara's facing different opponents, we might see him using his ultimate Susano'o again, and we have no idea where Sasuke is right now, either. My translation may have mentioned that the story is on its way to ending, but that fight looks far from over. There's going to be a lot of chess pieces converging onto one square, and not all of them are black and white.
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maybe orochimaru is taking sasuke to see madara, i am guessing it's casue madara has all the answers for sasuke
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Plus, Orochimaru might, for some reason, be able to stop Madara by taking over the Edo Tensei and getting rid of him.
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I wonder if obito is somehow related to madera. we know the senju had a wife and kids but I wonder if madara had kids that were kept secret. I know it sounds crazy but it could be the reason why obito was save!

Darkone posted an interview with kishi that got me thinking wath if the mission where obito dies was all a set up to get obito kill, and I know is hard to believe but what if one of the hokages was involved. It would be a major turn of events!
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Posted 9/11/12 , edited 9/11/12
All we learn was tha Uchiha Izuna has died blind. Yet we have 'no' body to prove it. Same goes with Uchiha Kagami, We have no 'proof' that he actually died. I don't believe in the Data Books.

Kratosmrj. You provide an good question. How is Obito link to Madara. My guess is that Obito is his grandson, or something.

I had an theory that Uchiha Madara was in love with Mito Uzumaki. But like Rin/Sasukra. Mito fell in love with the 1st Hokage. Which could give Madara 'another' reason to attack 1st Hokage & take back the Kyuubi for himself. Which make me believe that Madara was the one which cause an war with the Uzumaki. Which could explain why Karin, Kushine, Naruto are the only remaind of their's clan.

Well the chapter is out.

It give us more of each battle, but I'm fearing that something major is going to happen soon.


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First reaction after reading a few pages into this chapter: yuck, clearly Kishi has his gory mind switched on. Secondly, it looks like things might start to make sense, given the end of the chapter. It looks like we'll be entering a flashback of what the hell happened to Obito.

Dang... That must have sucked.
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damn the Kage's got pwned, but why did he not show the pwnage............
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Posted 9/11/12
Probably plans to show flashbacks of the kages fighting Madara I'd wager. Other than that, T_T Tsunade. Everyone I really like is dying in this manga.
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Posted 9/11/12 , edited 9/11/12
JC. Kishi alwats troll us. I wanted to see what Tsunade was capable of doing since Dan manage to heal her back up. Kishi love to end things without even giving us an real battle.

It was funny most of the people didn't think the guy at the end was Madara, but the sharingan is too easy not to notice it.. So it has been confirm that he was living in an cave for long ass time.

Also the ending remind me of Star War, When SkyWalker end up being Vader xD

But the Gunbai remind me of the One of the legendary God items. The Yata Mirror.

The way Madara state. Obito body was in the real while his soul was in the other realm. If that is true, then Madara used the Rinnengan to revive Obito soul back to his body.

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Posted 9/12/12
kishi is not suppose to be as bad as Kubo when it comes to trolling, kishi skipping the end of the whole Gokage fight is bad even for him when he showed us all the other attacks in it up to the point before switching to Naruto's fight....
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