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America Screws Up Anime
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Posted 1/8/07

Freedan wrote:


azian wrote:

I just hate american censorshipm and that pretty much in every anime I hear the same voice actor


Talk about censorship. They're showing Naruto over here in Italy, and they were on the Episode where Itachi kicks Sasuke's ass at the hospital. They cut the part where Sasuke crashes on the wall for some reason. I mean, they show wrestling for the kids here and they cut the part of a cartoon where the kid crashes on a wall? How many times have they seen Willy Coyote fall off an endless mountain? Isn't that worse?


I know that frikin sux
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Before cartoons were more violent, now everything sucks ass America CENSORSHIP sucks ass I blame all the people that are too sensitive.
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eek. dubbed makes me cry. T_T
I guess not all of them are SO horrible, but most are -__-
did anyone watch Tokyo Mew Mew dubbed before? God I wanted to break the tv.
and they censor so much. unless it's on adult swim. then nobody really cares. I think they have negima on adult swim
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Posted 1/8/07
I prefer Hellsing dubbed to subbed, since it takes place in Germany/Europe.
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this is more focoused on 4kids and one piece but its related to the topic



i found the luffy vs. crocidile dubbed, and it aint pretty
First off, I'm beggin' any dub lover to take the time to download episode 126, read what they are REALLY saying, hear (not listen) to Luffy's voice and attitude and then go watch the dub. (your reaction can speak for itself)

Luffy VS Crocodile Final Fight dubbed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsEU3naTHJ8

btw you can see a little BLOOD at 3:08 someone missed up there

He uses sweat?

Its the same idea that moisture is Croc's weakness, but not using blood makes it seem so much less dramatic. I mean technically sweat makes more sense since blood dries really fast.

BUT

The whole point of the blood was that not only is it moist and can be used against Croc, but that after being severely hurt by Croc Luffy used his injuries to fight back!

They lost the "I will surpass you!" line, and they didn't even replace it with anything good. Even "I'm better than you" would have been ok.

The New World Symphony is really what made the scene, I mean that song was soooooooo good and it really fit. 4Kids music doesn't compare AT ALL to that symphony.

What makes it worse is that the New World SYmphony isn't owned by anyone, so it could've been used without buying the original music from Toei.

**** cheap 4Kids, for those not aware the reason they use different music is this: They don't pay the money to buy the original sound track from Toei, in addition they GET more money every time they use their own original music. So yeah, its basically all about more money for them.




Anyways, its good compared to most 4kids stuff, but its still not very good compared to most dubs, and especially not compared to the original.


For those wondering, ALL the Alabasta fights are up on youtube, as well as most of the dramatic moments in Alabasta (Pell, Vivi crying alot, etc)

There's also the Smoker/Tashigi stuff as well. Hina shows up as well, with an okay voice.


They're all uploaded by the same girl, Cindre (aka Cinder, the girl who made the One Piece comparison website) so go to her youtube profile and you'll find all the clips from Alabasta she's uploaded.
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check this site out it shows the censorship of naruto to cartoonsuckwork naruto http://www.narutoplace.com/naruto-censors-and-edits/
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azian wrote:

check this site out it shows the censorship of naruto to cartoonsuckwork naruto http://www.narutoplace.com/naruto-censors-and-edits/


After editing Naruto to below DBZ violence status, the dub actually has a "fix"(not enough to save it from the original's goodness, though). THAT'S WHAT ALL DUBS SHOULD DO!

Fix the production errors and actually get some script writers to correct goofiness/plotholes from the original.

Then maybe dubs would get some street cred, even from Japanese fans.
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tch, duh!!!!!! and if you hate it so much stop watching it!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 1/8/07
its not all Dub's that are bad i mean DBZ Kenshin Gundam Wing and Gundam G all have good voice acting it just seems that recently the dubs arent that great oh and MAR isnt bad dubed eather
Posted 1/8/07
^i agree, i think that funimation does a great job at dubbing and the Shonen Jump stuff isn't all bad either. i just think that when americans try to tamper with japanese anime, then its way easy to tell. we americans just don't have the finess to handle the anime. same goes for the anime that america tries to make, it mostly sucks.
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not all dub is that bad like DBZ and One Piece but when i watched naruto dub i was like OMG THIS IS STUPID. I prefer japanese sub anime because they sound better like theres a movie called Kung Fu Hustle and the original version (cantonese) sounds way better then the english because u can tell it doesnt sound right in english than cantonese with english sub.
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Posted 1/9/07
Has anyone else noticed that Yami Yugi from yugioh is a voice in like every anime dubb lol
Posted 1/9/07

waffle26 wrote:

I was just watching pokemon the first movie on vhs that ive had since elmentary school and now that im older i now realize how horribly they mutalated the sound track . the end credits had like 4 30 second clips of diffrent american pop songs like m2m and s**t(just for money probally). I know every one hates pokemon now but i was wondring how the rest of you fell about americans screwing over animes.


well i think you're over generalizing anime, you have to remember "Pokemon" was never aimmed at adults like most anime is. I myself never really liked pokemon, but that's because I was older. Not all american anime is bad, there's plenty out there I think were beautifully done. The miyazaki films were carefully casted and always are executed flawlessly, Last Exile was absolutely amazing so saying that america screws up anime is a massive over generalization.

is it true? in some case yes, there are a lot of steaming piles of crap.
but i think with the globalization of anime in the last 10 years
the companies are doing a better job..

ps pokemon was a gold mine, they signed those artist to make more money.
in the end, even if you're deaf money talks.
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Posted 1/15/07
I WANT TO KILL THEY RUINED BLEACH, NARUTO ................ THE LIST GOES ON
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Posted 1/16/07
well, its true that commercial anime for kids that produce lots of mechandice (pokemon, onepeice, shaman king, pokemon, DBZ, Sailor moon, ect) are often screwed to the max (althought naruto's isnt that bad), other, more serious, shorter anime oftern have much better ones, like Ghost in the Shell, Stand alone complex, samurai champloo, and Cowboy bebop (just to name a few) have very good dubs.
it all depends on what anime it is, I guess.
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