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Do you feel like you experience more racism for being Asian?
Posted 4/2/07
I have to go against the grain here. I'd say racism is too strong a word for the asian american experience. Bigotry fed by ignorance, yes. Stereotyping, yes. The best way that I can put it is that 90% of western culture is completely clueless about the eastern other, and that this is the root of the problem.

But can you look at an african american and determine what region of africa his ancestors came from? How about what area of europe a white person has their roots? Or what country a hispanic person identifies with? The same is true for asians living in america. Very rarely do you come across someone who can play the national identification game accurately across the map. When it comes down to it, if you are in america, your culture culture is going to get run over, packaged, and diluted till it conforms to a motley gray.

Dave Chappelle is right that americans are so bad at identifying asians that they've begun to hate to be identified incorrectly because it seems no one gets it right. But racism is way too strong of a word and has become too much of a blanket term for what we are talking about here, which is american international ignorance (or how we have dropped an iron curtain around us to forget the rest of the world) (unless it has oil, nukes, or dictators). Racism is a whole lot uglier.
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Posted 4/2/07
Nevertheless, the problem remains. Sometimes it seems like differences among Asians are not as respected as much as much differences among Africans, Caucasians, Middle Easterners, and so forth.
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33 / M / PJ @ Malaysia
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Posted 4/2/07
I have problems being Chinese in The Netherlands. But then again, it's mostly the other minority group that are calling names to Chinese people (Turkish, Moroccan, and others).
Of course there are some skinheads in Hollands and teenagers in groups that think they are COOL because they can vandalize and call names to mostly Chinese people. There are no Koreans/Japanese people in my town, but I guess they can't see the difference between Chinese/Korean or Japanese. Korean people in Korea started stalking Korean to me because they thought I was Korean (have heard this a lot).
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26 / M / Where ever theres...
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Posted 4/2/07
Racism probably won't ever end, so we just got to live with it.
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Posted 4/2/07
It's really sad to hear when other minorities do that when you would think they would know better. Maybe harsher laws against racial slurs and hate crimes would be good.
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33 / M / PJ @ Malaysia
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Posted 4/2/07
Harsher laws would be nice....but I think the Dutch government think it's a minor problem.
I don't know about the bigger cities, but it should be better there, since the people in big cities (like Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague) are better mixed and merged...and they are in contact with other many many times (so they have learned to respect each other much more?)

I think the ratio of minor population is more balanced in big cities than smaller cities. Big group of minority can easily feel superior over small minority group. They tend to misuse the power (especially in gangs).
BUT...I am glad I know some Turkish who are very very polite and nice to people.

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Posted 4/2/07
one time i was in china,in a lift and this group of chinese guys thought me and my cousin was japanese and wanted to beat us up.But i replied in chinese and was ok.
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28 / F / Philippines
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Posted 4/2/07
i'm filipino and my boyfriend is from a different race though he and his parents and his grandparents has lived in the Philippines since they were born. but guess what? his family totally disapproves of me cause i'm filipino.

his mom told him that if she finds out his dating a filipino they'd disown him (just a threat probably) cause he can only be with someone with the same race as them its sorta like a tradition for them.

tradition or not i totally got pissed off, i mean why live in the Philippines when you don't wanna be with filipinos?
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Posted 4/2/07

gopherthegold wrote:
But can you look at an african american and determine what region of africa his ancestors came from? .


It's not only what part of africa, most blacks in the U.S are rarely rarely full african, and thats how were all labeled

I agree with your statement that ppl use racist a lot of times when its other things like just ignorance, ppl just not knowledgable about things...

I honestly don't know a single "race" that isn't racist, predjudice w.e...and for the guy who said asians are only racist against themselves HA...I don't know what rock you've been under...

everytype of race has racist bigots who hate on ppl of their own race and ppl of a different race, I really don't think its easy to say what race gets the most torture when it comes to the amount of ppl hating them...

and it really irks me too when other minorities hate on others b/c its like uhm are you stupid the way your acting toward that race is exactly how ppl look at your ignorant a$$
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27 / M / Brooklyn
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Posted 4/2/07
racism is alive and well in America i am black and ive had many girlfriends from different races and each and everyone of there parents said i was bad for there girl because i didnt understand there culture. so i learned what i could about there culture and they eventually like me. shit i even got invited to the family events. so my main point is if you act ignorant to others races or traditions you are also being racist not only them. so stop the slang and racist crap lets all live in peace
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Posted 4/2/07
Well I am sorry, I dont mean to offend but my friend who was raised in Japan (is orignally french) like in Ouran was there for his 9th and 10th grade and he said he was treated like an outsider the entire time and that he had a hard time makng friends with the studends. I dont know if that is true or not but racism exists everywhere
Posted 4/2/07

kankokujin wrote:

Nevertheless, the problem remains. Sometimes it seems like differences among Asians are not as respected as much as much differences among Africans, Caucasians, Middle Easterners, and so forth.


I think gopherthegold addressed that by saying that it stems from ignorance of eastern cultures. It's not that people don't respect the differences, they're unaware of them.

Like a lot of people, I suck at telling asians apart by their appearance. I don't go and assume everyone is Chinese, but I can understand why some people do, since China has the largest population, and is usually the first country that comes to mind. I don't think asians should take much offense at that, since there're usually no ill intentions.
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Posted 4/2/07
Mostly ABC doesnt experience that much, but mostly, ppl are dissing Asians, for example: Calling them names, or "go get some dumplings!". In type of person, FJ's mostly get diss in my school o.o..
im ABC so, i didnt experience racism being asian..
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29 / M / North Carolina
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Posted 4/2/07
There's this indianish kid (he never told me), who always has these 'Asian Pride' sh*t all over him. He's got a 'Got Rice?' tape (rofl, yeah tape), and I was like... Don't you 'Got Curry?', (oooh... I did a racist!! But he deserves it). Dude has way too much pride, he shows off how he's an atheist 12/7 and the other 12/7 he's doing 'Asian Pride'. He's got like 2 friends, 1 ordinary, the other this French Narutard, who tries to learn Japanese.. god... she is messed up. She's reading manga all class ><. (She was all writing about Itachi during class, reading forums I know who he is. I wish I could've slapped her, in japanese, english letters must I add)

Anyways 'Asian Pride' is out of control, it truly is. If you think of it in a way, Asian Pride is indeed racist towards other asians. If they don't act 'cool typical Asian', and stuff. Most will say 'Your a disgrace to Asians'. This goes to you asian-wannabes too, some of you do the same exact thing. Rubbing it in people's faces, that your Asian, is not ok. Cause there is NOTHING to show off about.

Also about the 'But I can't tell what they are ><. It's not my fault I think they're Chinese.'
God damn it, call them an asian. And your good to go. Also fit it into a conversation if you have go to know. Like 'Hey what kind of Asian are you?', Do not do this often.
And now you're pretty much set to go.
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33 / F / South Korea
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Posted 4/2/07
^ hmm "Asian Pride" ~ guess we all have different opinions on what it's all about~

back in cali, since we kind-of lived in an asian community racism is never a problem but when we moved to indiana some people would treat me differently...
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