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BoA America's Debut Single!
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Posted 9/12/08 , edited 9/12/08
im sorry for u boa fans, but i have to be honest..this is shit..shes been training for how long now? 2-3 years? and this is what she can come up with...the american version sucks and the korean version not so orginal..they hella copy from jlo's mv [i think]..and u cant depend on effect..american mv is totally different from korean mv as u can tell from the 2 trailers..this song sounds like a brinteny spear reject song..

one thing that gets me is her ENUNCIATION..wft!!!!! she trys so hard to say every little syllables ..she sounds retarded..u can see her jaw widen and her teeth...

honestly, this mv sucks..she trys to be sexy in all in the beginning..good lawd..she aint got nuthing..shes flat..boa is competing against artist like mary j blige, mc, beyonce, rihanna..etc..her voice is not even that strong and versatile..this song is not even her usual song..she sings like pop songs in japan and korea..and she jump to singing mainstream rnb pop song..theres too much of a gap there that she cant transition herself thats why u can hear the uncomfotableness of her voice..

be real ppl..americans are racist..even though we say we're not..yes, a little inside of us is racist..americans are judgemental, well, at least i am..im not gonna lie..who wants to listen to a song with fobby accent..yes, its true..there are artists that have accent and made it big here in america..but not FOBBY ACCENT...americans are ok with spanish accent, jamaican accent and british accent, but hell, americans make fun of asian accent and indian accent..

iono why korean artists want to debut here in america so much..do they just want to be the FRIST KOREAN artist to debut in america..i mean its all good if they do, but dont just debut cause u want to be the first korean singer to debut in america..but actually be the FIRST KOREAN singer that drop an album that american actually like..take your time..dont rush..dont be a failure and go back to korea cause your already big over there..


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im sorry for u boa fans, but i have to be honest..this is shit..shes been training for how long now? 2-3 years? and this is what she can come up with...the american version sucks and the korean version not so orginal..they hella copy from jlo's mv [i think]..and u cant depend on effect..american mv is totally different from korean mv as u can tell from the 2 trailers..this song sounds like a brinteny spear reject song..

one thing that gets me is her ENUNCIATION..wft!!!!! she trys so hard to say every little syllables ..she sounds retarded..u can see her jaw widen and her teeth...

honestly, this mv sucks..she trys to be sexy in all in the beginning..good lawd..she aint got nuthing..shes flat..boa is competing against artist like mary j blige, mc, beyonce, rihanna..etc..her voice is not even that strong and versatile..this song is not even her usual song..she sings like pop songs in japan and korea..and she jump to singing mainstream rnb pop song..theres too much of a gap there that she cant transition herself thats why u can hear the uncomfotableness of her voice..

be real ppl..americans are racist..even though we say we're not..yes, a little inside of us is racist..americans are judgemental, well, at least i am..im not gonna lie..who wants to listen to a song with fobby accent..yes, its true..there are artists that have accent and made it big here in america..but not FOBBY ACCENT...americans are ok with spanish accent, jamaican accent and british accent, but hell, americans make fun of asian accent and indian accent..

iono why korean artists want to debut here in america so much..do they just want to be the FRIST KOREAN artist to debut in america..i mean its all good if they do, but dont just debut cause u want to be the first korean singer to debut in america..but actually be the FIRST KOREAN singer that drop an album that american actually like..take your time..dont rush..dont be a failure and go back to korea cause your already big over there..




harsh, but soo true
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wink_wink_ wrote:
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be real ppl..americans are racist..even though we say we're not..yes, a little inside of us is racist..americans are judgemental...




I think I should probably take offense to that remark, but having to defend myself from lame ass stereotypes like that all the time is just so damn annoying, so no offense taken... dakedo...

I am a lot of "bad" things; American, white, male, flirtatious, cheap, forgetful, compulsive, impulsive, obsessive, clepto, lazy, procrastinator, indecisive, easily addicted, easily distracted, liar, cheat, vandal, delinquent, self-destructive, sukebe, katsugaru, probably even a bit of a homophobe... but, I am not racist. I may dislike certain aspects of a persons personality, sexual preference, or style but it's not because of race.

Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.

If you still want to state your stereotype, you should use the word "Bias".

Bias implies an unreasoned and unfair distortion of judgment in favor of or against a person or thing.

Damn right I'm bias, I like what I like & no one is gonna force me to change my mind... I'll do it on my own in about 2 minutes... maybe... if I feel like it...


Now let's get back on topic...
She will fail because the crap they are tying to push just won't float. There is nothing to make it stick out and really get the attention it would need to be her break.
It's all been done before, even if her English was better, the lyrics still suck. The music is nice, but it's nothing that stands out. The video is lame, but I doubt they'll spend the $$ to re-shoot it so she's stuck with an unoriginal, uninteresting MV on top of all her other problems.
The "exotic factor" or appeal of a cute Asian girl, will only get her so far. She'll probably get some measure support from the fans that she already has here in the States & maybe snag a few more, but she's not gonna be the next Britney.
Regardless of all that she has some big names on her Pro-list so she'll get splattered all over TV and radio for a bit, hell, she may even tour with some big-names, or put on a few shows of her own, but then quietly fade away when the $$ runs out. Still she will have "Debued" and sold some albums in the US & that should help her back home a bit, so nothing lost there. Publicity is Publicity.



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I think that she should be herself. I mean if she try to be American, then there will be nothing unique or special about her debut right? Afterall, there is the saying "You wont' get a second chance to make a first impression." so I don't think she should try to be American. If she does, then everyone will just think of her as a wannabe... Then again, maybe I'm wrong since I'm not American.

I'm looking forward Se7en's debut though cause his English is pretty good. xD
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Heh, some of you are being to negative about this all.

Here's the saying "You never know until you try"

Don't be to sure of what you're saying of the video, I.E. it sucks, or its shit. People have different views. ANd by the way, what does "this is shit" "the song is shit" "the mv is shit" means? Can someone tell me what that means? :P

Overall, right now you can give your criticism, of course. Just don't bash..,

I am hoping she will be a success because i'll be one of the many that buys her single/album/merchandise just to support her.

Go BoA
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i wish her luck, its gonna be hard..
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wink_wink_ wrote:


be real ppl..americans are racist..even though we say we're not..yes, a little inside of us is racist..americans are judgemental, well, at least i am..im not gonna lie..who wants to listen to a song with fobby accent..yes, its true..there are artists that have accent and made it big here in america..but not FOBBY ACCENT...americans are ok with spanish accent, jamaican accent and british accent, but hell, americans make fun of asian accent and indian accent.




LOL where and what age do you live in?
What does fobby accent means?
I am asian, and I don't have that fobby accent. Even if other asians do, its because english is their second language or third or fouth and people doesn't make fun of it. At least, not the people where I live. The only reasons why I see people would be making fun of someone's accent is because they lack the common knowledge of a human with an average intelligent set of brains or immature middle school-ers.

But of course, you can say that you know some or many americans that ,make fun of the accent. But don't put us all as a whole because when you say "americans make fun of asian accent" you mean all of us ASIANs who have our citizenship.
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is it just me or does her american mv look kinda cheap....it doesn't look that good.......
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don't take this as an offense but instead of boa i think they should have debuted chunmoo stephanie...i mean she could actually speak english, she dances well, and sings well too.. i'm not saying boa doesn't sing and dance welll i;m just saying that i think stephanie should do it instead...she kind of has that american image....i dunnno just my opinion...............
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dont people know there are american/ british or Australian born Asian singers out there

Help them debut First
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Americans are not racist. America isnt even a race so I dont know why people are calling us racist :huh:



good luck BoA! .... you'll need it.
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Heh, some of you are being to negative about this all.

Here's the saying "You never know until you try"

Don't be to sure of what you're saying of the video, I.E. it sucks, or its shit. People have different views. ANd by the way, what does "this is shit" "the song is shit" "the mv is shit" means? Can someone tell me what that means? :P

Overall, right now you can give your criticism, of course. Just don't bash..,

I am hoping she will be a success because i'll be one of the many that buys her single/album/merchandise just to support her.

Go BoA


It's true that you don't "really-truly" know till you try, but you can usually make a pretty damn good guess. It all depends on how much you know about it before hand, what is popular, what are the current trends, what sells well, you look at these things and compare it to what you have to offer. Sit down and watch a few hours of MTV or w/e popular western music related TV programing you like to watch, & tell me that what they are putting out for BoA even comes close to what is really hot right now.

Lyrically the song is just not good, compare it to similar songs that are popular right now & you can clearly hear the difference in quality (not even mentioning the accent at this point, she's not from here we get that already, you can overlook it).

Look at the quality of the camera work & direction of the music video (the first one with the 2 backup dancers), again poor quality due to lousy camera work & an especially cheesy CG backdrop. It just doesn't feel right, there is no connection between her & the audience through the camera. It's just disconnected & fake looking.
This is the biggest hit against her imo. The music is nothing great but its got a catchy beat that ppl could get hooked on if you make them listen to it enough, like playing it over and over on TV & radio every hour combine that with some decent dancing & her looks, if she had a decent video she could pull off a hit single even with a less than spectacular song. Its been done many times before with even less talented artists.

See my previous post about why the second vid would be a better choice for the US release -- more (& better) dancers, explosions, fire, & wetness + a little attitude. That 2nd MV actually has a very western feeling Hip-hop/R&B/Pop-star attitude imo... great stuff, not to mention better direction & location (no crappy CG backdrop). That one would have had me excited for her American debut.

What she currently has going for her are; looks, a decent beat & hook (I'll eat you up... na~ na~ nah~... I think I'm in love... etc.), some decent dancing, and a pocket full of big-names on her Pro-list. That'll only get you so far & unfortunately I don't think it's the top of any music chart.


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i wish her good luck :D
i love her song eat you up!
cant wait to buy the cd
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IDK wats gonna happen...i showed it to a couple of my friends they r blk and spanish and ndn and i asked them wat they think they said they like the chorus cuz its rly catchy but they couldnt understand wat she was saying in the lil verse sneek they gave on da vid..but im a BoA fan but they screwed her over it seems like they were like "yes lets not spend money on the vid cuz she might not make it here"..and the song choice was wack the only thing dats helpin it is dat the chorus is catchy...they should have did something like girls on top or something like dat..im not azn though i think it will b catchy 4 a min. but she rly has 2 prove herself
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kitzutsuita wrote:

Heh, some of you are being to negative about this all.

Here's the saying "You never know until you try"

Don't be to sure of what you're saying of the video, I.E. it sucks, or its shit. People have different views. ANd by the way, what does "this is shit" "the song is shit" "the mv is shit" means? Can someone tell me what that means? :P

Overall, right now you can give your criticism, of course. Just don't bash..,

I am hoping she will be a success because i'll be one of the many that buys her single/album/merchandise just to support her.

Go BoA


It's true that you don't "really-truly" know till you try, but you can usually make a pretty damn good guess. It all depends on how much you know about it before hand, what is popular, what are the current trends, what sells well, you look at these things and compare it to what you have to offer. Sit down and watch a few hours of MTV or w/e popular western music related TV programing you like to watch, & tell me that what they are putting out for BoA even comes close to what is really hot right now.

Lyrically the song is just not good, compare it to similar songs that are popular right now & you can clearly hear the difference in quality (not even mentioning the accent at this point, she's not from here we get that already, you can overlook it).

Look at the quality of the camera work & direction of the music video (the first one with the 2 backup dancers), again poor quality due to lousy camera work & an especially cheesy CG backdrop. It just doesn't feel right, there is no connection between her & the audience through the camera. It's just disconnected & fake looking.
This is the biggest hit against her imo. The music is nothing great but its got a catchy beat that ppl could get hooked on if you make them listen to it enough, like playing it over and over on TV & radio every hour combine that with some decent dancing & her looks, if she had a decent video she could pull off a hit single even with a less than spectacular song. Its been done many times before with even less talented artists.

See my previous post about why the second vid would be a better choice for the US release -- more (& better) dancers, explosions, fire, & wetness + a little attitude. That 2nd MV actually has a very western feeling Hip-hop/R&B/Pop-star attitude imo... great stuff, not to mention better direction & location (no crappy CG backdrop). That one would have had me excited for her American debut.

What she currently has going for her are; looks, a decent beat & hook (I'll eat you up... na~ na~ nah~... I think I'm in love... etc.), some decent dancing, and a pocket full of big-names on her Pro-list. That'll only get you so far & unfortunately I don't think it's the top of any music chart.


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I guess so, everyone's entitled to their opinions. One could say that the american version is crappier. It's true. But I see it differently (judging based upon the 45 secs teaser).

1. If you have tried, dancing to the American Version, you'll feel the song and the music and the dance because i've tried dancing to it. The korean version has a little dance, i tried that too but didn't feel the dance. For some reason, the korean version dance didn't really flow like the one in the US version.
2. I agree that the american version is cheaper and crappier.. but then again, that's if you are really looking for a spectacular MV, which many artists can do. the american version, as I see it:

It is just a video. A video of a great dancer with an amazing voice and catchy beats. Combined, people overlook the lyrics, the video quality, but instead just enjoy it, well I did lols. Once you dance to the song, you'll feel the song and the moves. It can be plain and with a CG background, but it brings much more to offer. It brings the performer's talent. All the scenes in the american version were of BoA dancing. What's more hot than that? Some korean MV that has a bunch of cool effects, but cuts out a lot of BoA's dancing abilities.

But like I say, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We are stating what we think, so I respect that :)
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