All my curl is gone!
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Hello. I have a most distressing problem to inquire about.

I have always worn my hair medium [shoulder length and sometimes shorter and once all the way down my back] and it has always had a beautiful natural curl/wave to it[Reference: Phase 1 'Normal'.] However last year my hair was the longest I ever had [Reference: Phase 2 'Long'] it and it started to lose it's curl. I was alarmed and was told that it was the weight of the hair that had pulled my curls loose. Well I cut it to the bottom of my chin roughly and it looked great but id didn't have as much curl. [Reference: Phase 3 'Medium'] and I was kind of sad. Well then since the summer came around I was talked into cutting my hair short. It was cut a little 'too' short by my girlfriend who is a student of cosmetology. It's grown out a bit since then but the curl has not returned! It has a subtle half-curl but it's rather straight [Reference: Phase 4 'Short'] and I am quite frustrated!

I beseech the knowledgeable community here for advice on how to regain my curls again.
Some have recommended perms but it would be fake. I loved my natural curl. It was a very soft wavy curl and was just right. My girlfriend told me that perms can ruin hair. So I would rather not do that anyway if at all possible.


For better reference, here's before and after pics.

Phase 1: Normal


Phase 2: Long


Phase 3: Medium


Phase 4: Short
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18 posts and two days and no one has any advice? I guess the main page was incorrect about that.
Posted 9/12/08 , edited 9/12/08

Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

18 posts and two days and no one has any advice? I guess the main page was incorrect about that.


Patience is a virtue my dear poster. Not all of us check the forum everyday and those posts could have been from repeat posters who didn't know enough to give you advice. I'm not even sure I can but I'll try to the best of my abilities.

First, what is your daily hair regimen? Be specific. Like if you condition and if so what brand, how do you dry it, and whatever other products you use.

Second, what solutions have you tried on your own thus far?
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mommyslttlmnstr wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

18 posts and two days and no one has any advice? I guess the main page was incorrect about that.


Patience is a virtue my dear poster. Not all of us check the forum everyday and those posts could have been from repeat posters who didn't know enough to give you advice. I'm not even sure I can but I'll try to the best of my abilities.

First, what is your daily hair regimen? Be specific. Like if you condition and if so what brand, how do you dry it, and whatever other products you use.

Second, what solutions have you tried on your own thus far?


I'm very patient. It's just that I was confounded that all the other topics around me had replies yet mine was the only one that was unanswered but it had so many views.

I use just whatever I find at the store. Usually I use just the regular Herbal Essences. I do condition, and I don't dry my hair I just comb my fingers through it and let it go natural.

The only products I use when it's long is just shampoo and conditioner. Right now since it's short I have been using Tresseme styling mousse and occasionally when it's stubborn I use a very little bit of Aussie spray.



Posted 9/12/08 , edited 9/12/08
Okay so I have a few guesses as to why you hair might not be curling the way it always has. They might not be right but you can give a few of them a shot. Experiment with the solutions I should say...

Maybe it's the weight of the products with how short your hair is that is causing your natural wave to fall dead. Try not using the Herbal Essence. I know for people without course hair this product can sometimes be almost oily. While it might not necessarily be visually noticeable, the weight can still have effect... especially if you're conditioning. That is another thing to try. Don't condition for a few days. Conditioner is only a faux substitute for the natural oils your body creates for healthy hair but is washed out by the shampoo. If your hair turns out looking dry, frizzy, or is full of tangles because of not using the conditioner you can use a homemade rinse. It's both healthier for your hair and light. All you need to do is add a few drops of rosemary oil to a pitcher of warm water.

You can also try switching out your mousse. There are many sprays out there for curly hair and you don't always have to get the 10-20$ bottles for the desire effect. They'll often be in a smaller spray bottle saying something like "curl defining" "curl enhancing" or "curl perfecting". I only say this because I have wavy/curly hair too and mousse has the most negative effect on my waves.

Other than all that I'm not really sure what else you can try. If none of these work for you, try walking into your local salon supply store that also serves the public and ask an employee. Or you can just try a salon itself and ask a stylist. They may only carry a few select brands though and will cost a pretty penny.

(Side Note: I am also on of the believers that Pantiene products are terrible for your hair. If your girlfriend is in cosmetology school she was probably taught about this as well and can tell you why. This is just a warning for if you switch products.)

Good luck.
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mommyslttlmnstr wrote:

Okay so I have a few guesses as to why you hair might not be curling the way it always has. They might not be right but you can give a few of them a shot. Experiment with the solutions I should say...

Maybe it's the weight of the products with how short your hair is that is causing your natural wave to fall dead. Try not using the Herbal Essence. I know for people without course hair this product can sometimes be almost oily. While it might not necessarily be visually noticeable, the weight can still have effect... especially if you're conditioning. That is another thing to try. Don't condition for a few days. Conditioner is only a faux substitute for the natural oils your body creates for healthy hair but is washed out by the shampoo. If your hair turns out looking dry, frizzy, or is full of tangles because of not using the conditioner you can use a homemade rinse. It's both healthier for your hair and light. All you need to do is add a few drops of rosemary oil to a pitcher of warm water.

You can also try switching out your mousse. There are many sprays out there for curly hair and you don't always have to get the 10-20$ bottles for the desire effect. They'll often be in a smaller spray bottle saying something like "curl defining" "curl enhancing" or "curl perfecting". I only say this because I have wavy/curly hair too and mousse has the most negative effect on my waves.

Other than all that I'm not really sure what else you can try. If none of these work for you, try walking into your local salon supply store that also serves the public and ask an employee. Or you can just try a salon itself and ask a stylist. They may only carry a few select brands though and will cost a pretty penny.

(Side Note: I am also on of the believers that Pantiene products are terrible for your hair. If your girlfriend is in cosmetology school she was probably taught about this as well and can tell you why. This is just a warning for if you switch products.)

Good luck.


Thank you very much! I will most definitely try these suggestions out and report the results back here.

Posted 9/12/08 , edited 9/12/08
Wow you look a lot like Ville Valo.
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Wow you look a lot like Ville Valo.


NOOOO! Why?!
I ALWAYS get that. I was even mistaken for this guy before. People are always telling me that, though this is a first on CR.

I mean thanks if that is meant as a compliment, but I wish I just looked like me. x.x

Posted 9/13/08

Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


KueChang wrote:

Wow you look a lot like Ville Valo.


NOOOO! Why?!
I ALWAYS get that. I was even mistaken for this guy before. People are always telling me that, though this is a first on CR.

I mean thanks if that is meant as a compliment, but I wish I just looked like me. x.x



:p It's a compliment. But yeah fine fine. I'll say you look similar lol.
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Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

Hello. I have a most distressing problem to inquire about.

I have always worn my hair medium [shoulder length and sometimes shorter and once all the way down my back] and it has always had a beautiful natural curl/wave to it[Reference: Phase 1 'Normal'.] However last year my hair was the longest I ever had [Reference: Phase 2 'Long'] it and it started to lose it's curl. I was alarmed and was told that it was the weight of the hair that had pulled my curls loose. Well I cut it to the bottom of my chin roughly and it looked great but id didn't have as much curl. [Reference: Phase 3 'Medium'] and I was kind of sad. Well then since the summer came around I was talked into cutting my hair short. It was cut a little 'too' short by my girlfriend who is a student of cosmetology. It's grown out a bit since then but the curl has not returned! It has a subtle half-curl but it's rather straight [Reference: Phase 4 'Short'] and I am quite frustrated!

I beseech the knowledgeable community here for advice on how to regain my curls again.
Some have recommended perms but it would be fake. I loved my natural curl. It was a very soft wavy curl and was just right. My girlfriend told me that perms can ruin hair. So I would rather not do that anyway if at all possible.


For better reference, here's before and after pics.

Phase 1: Normal


Phase 2: Long


Phase 3: Medium


Phase 4: Short


Hi there hope this will help:
If ur natural curls have gone then ur gonna have to work at it to get them back,
Use a Detox shampoo to remove product build up (if hair is oily curls will go)
Then rough dry ur hair with a Diffuser and really scrunch ur locks while drying( put ur head down and dry it's easy this way when drying it urself)
Try not to have layers in ur hair either.
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nancylou wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

Hello. I have a most distressing problem to inquire about.

I have always worn my hair medium [shoulder length and sometimes shorter and once all the way down my back] and it has always had a beautiful natural curl/wave to it[Reference: Phase 1 'Normal'.] However last year my hair was the longest I ever had [Reference: Phase 2 'Long'] it and it started to lose it's curl. I was alarmed and was told that it was the weight of the hair that had pulled my curls loose. Well I cut it to the bottom of my chin roughly and it looked great but id didn't have as much curl. [Reference: Phase 3 'Medium'] and I was kind of sad. Well then since the summer came around I was talked into cutting my hair short. It was cut a little 'too' short by my girlfriend who is a student of cosmetology. It's grown out a bit since then but the curl has not returned! It has a subtle half-curl but it's rather straight [Reference: Phase 4 'Short'] and I am quite frustrated!

I beseech the knowledgeable community here for advice on how to regain my curls again.
Some have recommended perms but it would be fake. I loved my natural curl. It was a very soft wavy curl and was just right. My girlfriend told me that perms can ruin hair. So I would rather not do that anyway if at all possible.


For better reference, here's before and after pics.

Phase 1: Normal


Phase 2: Long


Phase 3: Medium


Phase 4: Short


Hi there hope this will help:
If ur natural curls have gone then ur gonna have to work at it to get them back,
Use a Detox shampoo to remove product build up (if hair is oily curls will go)
Then rough dry ur hair with a Diffuser and really scrunch ur locks while drying( put ur head down and dry it's easy this way when drying it urself)
Try not to have layers in ur hair either.


Thank you very much for the advice. I will try that. It seems the previous suggestions have made no improvements, so I am glad to hear some new advice. Thank you.

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