Post Reply The Sword Plot! Shimaron! (Possible spoilers)
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There hasn't been a lot of ConYuu moments in the latest episodes. Well, except, for Yuuri calling Conrad's name a lot and noticing when his knight isn't there to rescue him.

I'm an optimist and the series has 19 more episodes. There's still plenty of time for a dramatic (and romantic) story arc for our favorite pairing. The mysterious gold sword and the whole conflict with Shimaron is the perfect backdrop because they both relate to stuff that's been covered in the previous episodes about Conrad being the king of Shimaron and about swordsmanship. Maybe we'll have a possessed Conrad if he gets the sword and Yuuri has to find a way to save him. Or Yuuri's Maoh mode goes to the Darkside and only the mysterious sword can defeat him. Angsty stuff. I'm hungering for some great finale with our pairing. Maybe Conrad, without a choice, becomes the king of Shimaron. Then he and Yuuri come together bringing a golden age of peace between humans and mazoku. You know, sort of like fate because of their extraordinary backgrounds... Isn't it a coincidence that they're both half-breed and while one is the Maoh, the other has rights to the throne of the most powerful human nation in the realm? It's like their bonding was planned a long time ago to fulfill a destiny of peace between two conflicting peoples. It would be the perfect ending.
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I no longer follow some forums but the novels run quite faster than the anime itself and not to pull the plug or anything but Conrad does not become a king. There is no hint that he had any interest in political power. I would believe that Yuuri would be saddened to know his knight would no longer be by his side.

And I don't know but I believe the sword has something to do with Sara. His eye color is exactly the same as the mysterious woman. It is possible that they may be in relations with one another. But I may be wrong and yet, the idea that the original 'Janus' was already looking for the sword he never found until the fake found it years later (contemporary). Murata would've shed some light if it pertained to Conrad's ancestry, or so I believe.

The last time I've heard of the novels, Yuuri loses his eyesight and Sara is there. Another part would be Conrad and Yuuri hiding in a coffin together. These scenes may be in the upcoming epsiodes, but then again... I'm not so sure myself.
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I was so looking forward to him being king. I thought that if he got equal rank with Sara and Yuuri he wouldn't be in his shell so much and he'd finally actively start pursuing our sweet Maou. Also it would make Yuuri and Conrad's dynamics interesting and different. I know Conrad can't leave Yuuri's side again because he promised to stay by him forever. The only way I could see Conrad leaving is if something happened to force him to leave... Getting framed for treason? And getting banished, maybe? And in order to foil Sara's plans and stop the war between Greater Shimaron, Conrad conquers all of Shimaron to protect Yuuri. We know Conrad would do anything to protect his Maou.

You might be right about the sword and Sara. The mysterious woman IS Sara's mother, Arazon. I thought that the sword might have something to do with Conrad because there has been a lot of focus on his swordsmanship this season and Janus keeps specifically paying attention to Conrad. Like that time when Janus stole the mystery sword and Conrad reacted strangely to the incident. Also the scene when Conrad held the sword in his hands...it just felt right. I thought it was the anime creator's way of hinting that in the future the sword would be Conrad's. In episode 17, the woman said that the sword could only be drawn by a "master" of the sword. The reason Murata didn't shed light on the sword was because he wasn't there when the group had it and Janus stole it. Yuuri and party don't even know about Conrad's royal ancestry, yet. The thing about Murata and Conrad is that they never reveal what they know right away. I suspect that Murata not being there when the sword was stolen kept whatever he knew about it from being a spoiler for the future episodes. Also, Conrad and Murata have been very close and secretive this season... The creators are being very secretive about what's going to happen in the rest of the episodes. I think it'll be something really big.

*nods* Yes, I heard about the blindness part in the novels. I don't know if it'll be shown in the anime though because it might be too extreme. Also, Sara is supposed to torture Yuuri in that scene... Conrad and Yuuri's coffin scene was already used for Sara/Yuuri in episode 18 this season. I doubt they'd do another scene like that for ConYuu. Surprisingly enough the ConYuu fans don't seem as annoyed as the Yuuram fans that the scriptwriters have been giving Sara other characters' scenes from the novels... I heard it's because there are so many even more yummy ConYuu moments in the novels that the fans are willing to spare the one coffin scene to SaraYuu. Besides they've been giving other characters Conrad's lines and ConYuu's scenes from the very first season. I think the ConYuu fans are more annoyed that the creators decided to make Conrad "cheat" (pay attention to other characters) on Yuuri this season. They're trying to build Conrad a larger harem so that he'll have equal character status to Yuuri. Only important main characters get huge harems it seems.
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hello... well, i was a little confused with the OVA and the anime but then again - yeah there are no moments here - but more on political and the rightful king - mazoku and humans that is... i believe that sara and the queen are mother and son... maybe... gut feeling or something... well... i just watched eps 20 - and it shows how powerful Yuri can become and how dangerous he can be, its like opening one of the forbidden boxes. haven's read all the novels and some manga's - sad been so busy lately...

murata - is the truthful great sage - that janus guy? having two personality or what??? anyway - if sara and janus and that queen are cunning i think there is no more cunning and shrewd like or great daikenja - c'mon he help the shinou for thousand of years for that plan and is still silent and i think with him at Yuri's side - evrythng will shed light and well... he does like to keep others thinking...

.... Conrad here - shows how loyal and protective he can become with Yuri... i like this part - reminds me of the first season...

thanks again and hope to see the animes going...
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hello... well, i was a little confused with the OVA and the anime but then again - yeah there are no moments here - but more on political and the rightful king - mazoku and humans that is... i believe that sara and the queen are mother and son... maybe... gut feeling or something... well... i just watched eps 20 - and it shows how powerful Yuri can become and how dangerous he can be, its like opening one of the forbidden boxes. haven's read all the novels and some manga's - sad been so busy lately...

murata - is the truthful great sage - that janus guy? having two personality or what??? anyway - if sara and janus and that queen are cunning i think there is no more cunning and shrewd like or great daikenja - c'mon he help the shinou for thousand of years for that plan and is still silent and i think with him at Yuri's side - evrythng will shed light and well... he does like to keep others thinking...

.... Conrad here - shows how loyal and protective he can become with Yuri... i like this part - reminds me of the first season...

thanks again and hope to see the animes going...


Actually, the OVA's are seperate from the Season 3 anime. You don't have to watch the OVA's to understand the new series and season 3 happens immediately after episode 78 (last epi. of season 2). Originally, the OVA's were released to attract interest in Sara and give some fanservice to Yuuram, Gwendel, and SaraYuu. Vol.1 and 5 of the OVA seems confusing because the creators animated Sara's first meeting with Yuuri like it was in the novels. In the 3rd Season, the creators decided to redo the Sara and Yuuri meeting scene differently.

You're completely right that Sara and the Queen are mother and son. The director already confirms this. Yes, Yuuri does look more dangerous and darker in episode 20. Janus, the guy who is the copy of the Great Sage, describes Yuuri as being like Soushu (the evil entity Yuuri defeated in the 2nd season). It is a mystery why they drew Yuuri like that in the anime. It is possible that later something bad will happen to Yuuri's powers.

Murata has the soul of the Great Sage so he is the original. Janus seems to be a negative copy of the Great Sage's reincarnation 2000 years ago. Remember episode 4 with the bearbees? It is a clue about what Janus is. Right now, we are not sure what the queen, Sara, or Janus want. They all seem to have a different agenda. Sara and the queen don't seem to be working together. I don't even think Sara knows that Janus is working under the queen. Sara seems like he wants to keep his country of Lesser Shimaron safe from Greater Shimaron and that he is manipulating his friendship with Yuuri to achieve this. I think for Sara it would be a big advantage if Shinmakoku and Greater Shimaron went to war. As for the queen and Janus...I don't know what they want, but I don't know if it automatically equals evil. It could be that they are trying to do something that will have later good intentions, but the methods they use are questionable.

I like Conrad being loyal and protective of Yuuri, but for the story and character I want him to become more ambitious.

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CONRAD - ambitious.... hmmm i dont think so. We may want him to be the Dai Shimaron King - i hope for this in season 2 - but for so many years - like YEARS - he is ever so loyal to Yuuri only. He will give his life and time and whole devotion to Yuuri only... Its like what you said before - a brother, mentor, teacher, friend, father and godfather... his more close to Yuuri than Murata and Wolf...

Yeah - about the OVA being a separate one-its like a teaser or something - and yeah - murata is one and only Daikenja... i like his character and so is Shinou!!! i like the episode where he escape and mistaken for a fairy. hehehe... he sure is cute! hehehe... and can be so funny!!! the great sage machine...

Yeah-i watched that where janus stated that its like soushu... i believe that Yuuri is far more powerful than soushu - he beat it in season 2 - then he save shinou's soul and all - and can travel back and forth - his power can be good and evil - but i doubt Yuuri will ever turn the dark side. with all his friends and the noble way he save the KOHI's and the Dragons... even defended humans and demons alike - his power becomes great because of his emotions and i think the way he responds to all the people around him. he went berserk seeing Conrad's arms and will do anything to get it back... and i think he also went berserk with the incident of sara - because he was so close with sara - a new friendship form from the outer palace and with humans - he thinks highly of sara being a young king - and that blood - anyone will get really really angry with that.

But yeah-its a ploy again i think for sara to see yuuri's power and for dai shimaron be scared of Yuuri's power and now that the alliance of the lesser shimaron with yuuri is kinda official - the dai shimaron may think/ will think twice before attacking the lesser shimaron...

the plot is exciting here - though there arent any moments - i think this is where they build yuuri's kingdom and his legacy as being the most noble king... i like the progress of the story even without the conyuu and yuuram moments... ^^

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Well this thread is sort of dying out, but I have a question- doesn't it seem that Berias and Conrad had some sort of weird moments? I mean, I'm not even informed as to why Berias is so loyal to Sara- Conrad is to Yuuri as Berias is to Sara? Lol. I'm just hoping that Conrad will become more of the main character in the remaining episodes, meaning there would have to be some sort of Conyuu moments. Ner... Perhaps I will get my hopes up though. At least we have the novels and manga, which IS majorly Conyuu.
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