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Posted 12/27/07

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I don't think he needed to shoot them...that's just plain stupidity, taking it a bit too far.


agree. *nods*
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There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?
Posted 12/27/07
i dont know...i still think it was murder because i dont think the punishment for burglary should be death. but then again the burglars were ILLEGAL immigrants who already had outstanding warrants and criminal records
Posted 12/27/07

projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property
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Posted 12/27/07

kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property


You don't need a license for an obvious firearm?? WOW!!! Mad Max country!! Power!!

If it wasn't his property it should be classified as a homicide case even if under the pretext that they were burglars. Even burglars have the right to live.
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^yeah right

My dad shot at a punk trying to break into our house through my sisters window
Me and my sister pointed him out to him

Sneak into MY house and I catch you in the act
then I'll put the laser sight of my p226 to your skull and ask you why your here
if I don't like the anwser........
Posted 12/27/07

projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property


You don't need a license for an obvious firearm?? WOW!!! Mad Max country!! Power!!

If it wasn't his property it should be classified as a homicide case even if under the pretext that they were burglars. Even burglars have the right to live.


lol. well the kill range for a shot gun is ineffective outside 30 feet. for any other firearm you need a license.

under texas law, a man is allowed to shoot to defend his property or a neighbors property upon request.

but another thing is that both burglars were illegal immigrants with outstanding criminal records who shouldnt have been there in the first place.
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Posted 12/27/07

kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property


You don't need a license for an obvious firearm?? WOW!!! Mad Max country!! Power!!

If it wasn't his property it should be classified as a homicide case even if under the pretext that they were burglars. Even burglars have the right to live.


lol. well the kill range for a shot gun is ineffective outside 30 feet. for any other firearm you need a license.

under texas law, a man is allowed to shoot to defend his property or a neighbors property upon request.

but another thing is that both burglars were illegal immigrants with outstanding criminal records who shouldnt have been there in the first place.


I might have mellowed at the face of all this now that i'm used to strict singaporean laws. But I really thought this kind of barbarism only happens in the philippines where it seems like every household has at least one gun, licensed or not.

Still, even if they were Nazis, isnt it a bit too far to impose the death sentence without trial just because of property issues? In which case I believe that that texas law is a tad ridiculous, if you are allowed to take a life to protect a property.
Posted 12/27/07

projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property


You don't need a license for an obvious firearm?? WOW!!! Mad Max country!! Power!!

If it wasn't his property it should be classified as a homicide case even if under the pretext that they were burglars. Even burglars have the right to live.


lol. well the kill range for a shot gun is ineffective outside 30 feet. for any other firearm you need a license.

under texas law, a man is allowed to shoot to defend his property or a neighbors property upon request.

but another thing is that both burglars were illegal immigrants with outstanding criminal records who shouldnt have been there in the first place.


I might have mellowed at the face of all this now that i'm used to strict singaporean laws. But I really thought this kind of barbarism only happens in the philippines where it seems like every household has at least one gun, licensed or not.

Still, even if they were Nazis, isnt it a bit too far to impose the death sentence without trial just because of property issues? In which case I believe that that texas law is a tad ridiculous, if you are allowed to take a life to protect a property.


lol. i suppose that i would agree with you if i hadnt grown up in texas.
you sort of have to understand texas history to understand its culture.
Texas was kind of a stand alone state and one man country at one time.
Texas is filled with ranches and large farms. even now a majority of the land is ranches. Texans were kinda raised with "the tough" persona and that they have every right to defend themselves. Hence maybe why george bush running the country isnt such a great idea. lol

but yea, i think texans are all for self defense and property protection.
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Posted 12/27/07

kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property


You don't need a license for an obvious firearm?? WOW!!! Mad Max country!! Power!!

If it wasn't his property it should be classified as a homicide case even if under the pretext that they were burglars. Even burglars have the right to live.


lol. well the kill range for a shot gun is ineffective outside 30 feet. for any other firearm you need a license.

under texas law, a man is allowed to shoot to defend his property or a neighbors property upon request.

but another thing is that both burglars were illegal immigrants with outstanding criminal records who shouldnt have been there in the first place.


I might have mellowed at the face of all this now that i'm used to strict singaporean laws. But I really thought this kind of barbarism only happens in the philippines where it seems like every household has at least one gun, licensed or not.

Still, even if they were Nazis, isnt it a bit too far to impose the death sentence without trial just because of property issues? In which case I believe that that texas law is a tad ridiculous, if you are allowed to take a life to protect a property.


lol. i suppose that i would agree with you if i hadnt grown up in texas.
you sort of have to understand texas history to understand its culture.
Texas was kind of a stand alone state and one man country at one time.
Texas is filled with ranches and large farms. even now a majority of the land is ranches. Texans were kinda raised with "the tough" persona and that they have every right to defend themselves. Hence maybe why george bush running the country isnt such a great idea. lol

but yea, i think texans are all for self defense and property protection.


Hmm.. lemme see... I think I can probably summarize everything that you've just said about texas in one word:

Redneck.
Posted 12/27/07

projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property


You don't need a license for an obvious firearm?? WOW!!! Mad Max country!! Power!!

If it wasn't his property it should be classified as a homicide case even if under the pretext that they were burglars. Even burglars have the right to live.


lol. well the kill range for a shot gun is ineffective outside 30 feet. for any other firearm you need a license.

under texas law, a man is allowed to shoot to defend his property or a neighbors property upon request.

but another thing is that both burglars were illegal immigrants with outstanding criminal records who shouldnt have been there in the first place.


I might have mellowed at the face of all this now that i'm used to strict singaporean laws. But I really thought this kind of barbarism only happens in the philippines where it seems like every household has at least one gun, licensed or not.

Still, even if they were Nazis, isnt it a bit too far to impose the death sentence without trial just because of property issues? In which case I believe that that texas law is a tad ridiculous, if you are allowed to take a life to protect a property.


lol. i suppose that i would agree with you if i hadnt grown up in texas.
you sort of have to understand texas history to understand its culture.
Texas was kind of a stand alone state and one man country at one time.
Texas is filled with ranches and large farms. even now a majority of the land is ranches. Texans were kinda raised with "the tough" persona and that they have every right to defend themselves. Hence maybe why george bush running the country isnt such a great idea. lol

but yea, i think texans are all for self defense and property protection.


Hmm.. lemme see... I think I can probably summarize everything that you've just said about texas in one word:

Redneck.


i would totally agree, except for the urban populations. not many rednecks can survive in the big cities. lol
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Posted 12/27/07

projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property


You don't need a license for an obvious firearm?? WOW!!! Mad Max country!! Power!!

If it wasn't his property it should be classified as a homicide case even if under the pretext that they were burglars. Even burglars have the right to live.


lol. well the kill range for a shot gun is ineffective outside 30 feet. for any other firearm you need a license.

under texas law, a man is allowed to shoot to defend his property or a neighbors property upon request.

but another thing is that both burglars were illegal immigrants with outstanding criminal records who shouldnt have been there in the first place.


I might have mellowed at the face of all this now that i'm used to strict singaporean laws. But I really thought this kind of barbarism only happens in the philippines where it seems like every household has at least one gun, licensed or not.

Still, even if they were Nazis, isnt it a bit too far to impose the death sentence without trial just because of property issues? In which case I believe that that texas law is a tad ridiculous, if you are allowed to take a life to protect a property.


lol. i suppose that i would agree with you if i hadnt grown up in texas.
you sort of have to understand texas history to understand its culture.
Texas was kind of a stand alone state and one man country at one time.
Texas is filled with ranches and large farms. even now a majority of the land is ranches. Texans were kinda raised with "the tough" persona and that they have every right to defend themselves. Hence maybe why george bush running the country isnt such a great idea. lol

but yea, i think texans are all for self defense and property protection.


Hmm.. lemme see... I think I can probably summarize everything that you've just said about texas in one word:

Redneck.


At least no one is dumb enough to mess with a redneck
they may be on to something
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abel89 wrote:

^yeah right

My dad shot at a punk trying to break into our house through my sisters window
Me and my sister pointed him out to him

Sneak into MY house and I catch you in the act
then I'll put the laser sight of my p226 to your skull and ask you why your here
if I don't like the anwser........


But I bet he didn't kill the punk.
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abel89 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property


You don't need a license for an obvious firearm?? WOW!!! Mad Max country!! Power!!

If it wasn't his property it should be classified as a homicide case even if under the pretext that they were burglars. Even burglars have the right to live.


lol. well the kill range for a shot gun is ineffective outside 30 feet. for any other firearm you need a license.

under texas law, a man is allowed to shoot to defend his property or a neighbors property upon request.

but another thing is that both burglars were illegal immigrants with outstanding criminal records who shouldnt have been there in the first place.


I might have mellowed at the face of all this now that i'm used to strict singaporean laws. But I really thought this kind of barbarism only happens in the philippines where it seems like every household has at least one gun, licensed or not.

Still, even if they were Nazis, isnt it a bit too far to impose the death sentence without trial just because of property issues? In which case I believe that that texas law is a tad ridiculous, if you are allowed to take a life to protect a property.


lol. i suppose that i would agree with you if i hadnt grown up in texas.
you sort of have to understand texas history to understand its culture.
Texas was kind of a stand alone state and one man country at one time.
Texas is filled with ranches and large farms. even now a majority of the land is ranches. Texans were kinda raised with "the tough" persona and that they have every right to defend themselves. Hence maybe why george bush running the country isnt such a great idea. lol

but yea, i think texans are all for self defense and property protection.


Hmm.. lemme see... I think I can probably summarize everything that you've just said about texas in one word:

Redneck.


At least no one is dumb enough to mess with a redneck
they may be on to something


Not everybody in the world lives in Texas. Or under Texan Law.
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projectcedric wrote:


abel89 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:


kingbobo100 wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

There's a couple of questions there:

1.) Is the shotgun licensed?
2.) Did he kill the man who was outside of his property?

Even if the man did step into his lawn it could still be possibly ruled as a homicide. Secondly, if he did intervene and kill the man outside his lawn, and the court pardoned him, that could be difficult. Perhaps the "burglar" wasn't really a burglar. Perhaps its a film set for an amateur video or something. It sounds ridiculous and unlikely but what if it was and he just stormed into the scene and killed people?


ill answer to the best of my ability.

i dont believe you need a license for a shot gun in texas.

and he killed two men who were burglarizing his neighbors property


You don't need a license for an obvious firearm?? WOW!!! Mad Max country!! Power!!

If it wasn't his property it should be classified as a homicide case even if under the pretext that they were burglars. Even burglars have the right to live.


lol. well the kill range for a shot gun is ineffective outside 30 feet. for any other firearm you need a license.

under texas law, a man is allowed to shoot to defend his property or a neighbors property upon request.

but another thing is that both burglars were illegal immigrants with outstanding criminal records who shouldnt have been there in the first place.


I might have mellowed at the face of all this now that i'm used to strict singaporean laws. But I really thought this kind of barbarism only happens in the philippines where it seems like every household has at least one gun, licensed or not.

Still, even if they were Nazis, isnt it a bit too far to impose the death sentence without trial just because of property issues? In which case I believe that that texas law is a tad ridiculous, if you are allowed to take a life to protect a property.


lol. i suppose that i would agree with you if i hadnt grown up in texas.
you sort of have to understand texas history to understand its culture.
Texas was kind of a stand alone state and one man country at one time.
Texas is filled with ranches and large farms. even now a majority of the land is ranches. Texans were kinda raised with "the tough" persona and that they have every right to defend themselves. Hence maybe why george bush running the country isnt such a great idea. lol

but yea, i think texans are all for self defense and property protection.


Hmm.. lemme see... I think I can probably summarize everything that you've just said about texas in one word:

Redneck.


At least no one is dumb enough to mess with a redneck
they may be on to something


Not everybody in the world lives in Texas. Or under Texan Law.


This is America, Rednecks are just about everywhere here
if not them, then gangsters and thugs, mobsters and others

There's also a butt load of heavily armed militias
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