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man that is so old,and what kind of respond do you expect?
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ummm I wouldn't want to tread into these types of waters...I prefer not to question what He can do and what He cannot do. I only question what the church does ^.^
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i never met a being with infinite power,did you?
so there are no answers to this question.
proof!?lol

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He can create a boulder that he cannot lift and then he can lift it...Ah the nature of omnipotent beings; paradoxes galore! ---> Pretty much they can do whatever they want...
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There is no God.

There is only Cheese.
Posted 4/3/07
These are mutally exclusive events, creating a paradox;
if we accept that "God" can do anything
=> then "God" must be able to create a boulder which he cannot lift
==> however "God" must be able to lift the boulder, as he/she/it can do anything
===> then the boulder wouldn't be unliftable by "God"
====> therefore, a "God" which can do everything can't produce a boulder which he/she/it can't lift
======> thus, the presumption is incorrect, "God" cannot do everything, and is not omnipotent

However I belive that a being can easily produce another being which exceeds itself;
the "christian God" produced humans which exceeded "God" by far in their stupidity [though it may be that "God" was immensly stupid to have made humans in the first place]

I still believe in "God" dispite this;
I assume that it must defy logic, because he is all powerful
or
that it is logic and the laws of the universe therefore cannot go against itself
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A perfect omnipotent being cannot be illogical, as simple as that.
God cannot make a triangle of 2 vertices, or a married bachelor, etc, etc, etc......
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^ I concur
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Paradoxes can and do exist and it does not disprove an assumption if a said paradox does exist. Case and point: The Twins Paradox. Einstein suggested as an example for his Theory of Relativity in which there were two twins. One twin stayed on Earth and the other got into a spaceship that accelerated to near the speed of light and traveled a long ways away from Earth. When the twin in the spaceship returned he was barely older than he left, but his twin who had stayed on Earth had become an old man...A paradox, yes, but by no means does it prove the Theory of Relativity incorrect, rather in actuality it supports it. The same goes for the Omnipotence Paradox.
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neomanxl wrote:

yes it is old, but I have not seen anyone start this topic on this form, so I might as well do it.

What kind of response do i expect? Well i asked a question so I am expecting an answer with some form of proof or argument as to why you answered the way you did.
However, you didn't bother to answer the question, so I request that anyone who is not going to answer or debate answers to this question please refrain from posting.

edit: I posted this before the previous comment :D
I am not asking specifically about the Christian God, I am just acting about any diety or omnipotent being.


Sorry but that's what I understood from "God". Because of my Catholic faith I just assumed you were talking about Him. Sorry for the mixup! As for any diety or omnipotent being...well I think Mauz just summed it up for me!!
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mauz15 wrote:

A perfect omnipotent being cannot be illogical, as simple as that.
God cannot make a triangle of 2 vertices, or a married bachelor, etc, etc, etc..........

Sure they could...You could call a line a triangle and a married man a married bachelor, ect, ect. In a sense anyone could do that, just by changing the meaning of the words...
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this question is not ment to get an answer!its a tool,to let religious people
know,that it all makes no sense at all,or at least that it is beyond human understanding.
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neomanxl wrote:
Oh, by the way, the twin paradox is not actually a paradox in that it is not an inherently contradictory statement.

The perception of paradox, referred to as the twin paradox (sometimes called the 'clock paradox') is caused by the error of assuming that relativity implies that only relative motion between objects should be considered in determining clock rates. The result of this error is the prediction that upon return to Earth, each twin sees the other as younger -- which is clearly impossible. (Taken from wikipedia)


So I took it out of context...Big deal. Its original usage to support the Theory of Relativity was that of a paradox, but if you look at it from a different perspective it no longer becomes a paradox. Is that so different from the Omnipotence Paradox? I don't think so...If an all-powerful being can do anything that is as simple as that. They can do anything and you can come up with as many paradoxical examples as you want, but the fact that they are all-powerful the answer to each, "Can an omnipotent being do...?" becomes a simple, "Yes."
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No because at a certain size a boulder stops being a boulder and turns into a mountain. Assuming this god you speak of is real and made everything then he'd have to be huge. In order to make planets. Therefor the "boulder" would have to be huge bigger than a planet. So that means it would in itself become a planet which means its not a boulder. Saying that means that he wouldn't have to lift a planet cuz it would be in zero G of space. By our human terms this "God" can't make a boulder he himself can't lift.

If that doesn't make sense sorry.
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neomanxl wrote:

I think what Mauz means by his statement is that the omnipotent being actually makes the line a triangle, and the married bachelor a married man.

*Hint* *Hint* My post was laced with so much sarcasm that if sarcasm was cocaine I think someone would be in for one wild ride...
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