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If God can do anything...
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You know what... if this army thing works out. I'll want to have a child and name him God... And then the religious folks will fly to my area and try to assassinate him. BUT! With my army with me, we will kill them without mercy. Thus destroying 'earth believers', thus also as a sour side-affect send some of them to heaven, but some will choose to stay as ghost. Some of the religious ones could've sinned a lot unknowingly and go to hell. This will lower God's power, but since some are going to heaven, it recovers him by a little bit.

After that we will do more recruiting trips, then we attack heaven. Once God is defeated and I'm crowned 'The New God', we will recreate this world for the better. But getting there we will have to make the world a worse place, but it's worth it my friends. It is.

Anyways of course he can't make that boulder and be able to lift it. He is vulnerable, and doesn't have infinite power!
Posted 4/3/07
I wish religion would stay out of the internet -_-
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There I fixed it...Better?
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@ sheighton:Well arent we the smart-ass.(im referring to him as a donkey, the joke being that a donkey usually isint all that smart, meaning that i don´t find his statements, albeit true, necessary, so a smart-donkey would be a more appropriate, but the joke would lose its point.)
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Dularc wrote:

@ sheighton:Well arent we the smart-ass.


Well, yeah, but about what in particular are you referring to?
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henz_lan wrote:
if we accept that "God" can do anything
=> then "God" must be able to create a boulder which he cannot lift
==> however "God" must be able to lift the boulder, as he/she/it can do anything
===> then the boulder wouldn't be unliftable by "God"
====> therefore, a "God" which can do everything can't produce a boulder which he/she/it can't lift
======> thus, the presumption is incorrect, "God" cannot do everything, and is not omnipotent


The problem is in the very first line (2nd line in his post). Heck, you may as well just ask right off if God can do something he cannot do, because thats what it comes down to. The obvious answer to this is, of course not. Well, I think its a silly question to begin with. As well as silly circumstances, talking vaguely about "anything", and some spiritual being lifting boulders, and so on.

There is a philosophical and linguistic technique which basically uses diffrent ways of stating things in order to solve problems and get rid of conceptional confusion (the name eludes me atm). I will solve the problem in this manner. If we replace "a boulder which he cannot lift" with, "the heaviest possible boulder" there is no problem whatsoever with a being that can do anything being able to lift it. This method easily reveals the self contradictory nature of the question.
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I prefer this question when it is worded, "Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that even he could not eat it?"

Having an infinite amount of power is just a silly notion. I mean, if you had an infinite amount of power you could give away half of it and still have infinity.
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Here's the thing about God. Everything about God contradicts itself. God is suppose to be omnipotent and benevolent. Let's start with benevolent, if God was benevolent there wouldn't be war and other depressing matters in world. There are arguments that say war and stuff is us humans' fault because God has given us freewill. But if he's omnipotent, can't he give us freewill and peace?

There are also arguments that God's creations are art. Nature is pretty but I don't consider a suicide bomber running into a crowd of people and blowing himself up just so God can see the glory of blood, smoke, ash and limps flying in the air art.

Then again you can say these sad matters happen because God is punishing us for transgressions and abuse of our freewill, which leads us back to God not being benevolent.

I like Family Guy's take on God.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NBZQfAYfH7s
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n0odle wrote:

There are also arguments that God's creations are art. Nature is pretty but I don't consider a suicide bomber running into a crowd of people and blowing himself up just so God can see the glory of blood, smoke, ash and limps flying in the air art.


Depends on who you ask...For example, tis person would beg to differ...

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Well he's an asshole. What did you expect?
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Nah he's jsut a psycho...
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Posted 4/3/07
^ HEY don't be makin' fun of Deidara
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Posted 4/3/07
just like i thought nothing good comes out of this thread.that happens,when you ask a question,which has no answer.this question,like i already said, is ment to make people think,not to get a answer!and btw its ment religiously,or are we talking about some even more imagined creature,with infinite powers,that would be even more stupid(if even possible)
so here is a question:if mods have the power to close a thread,why dont they do it with this one?
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^^ & ^^^ & ^^^^ Enough, back on topic please.
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Mods should just lock this thread. We can go on for 500 pages and still no conclusion.
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