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Human nature is based on greed...but the way people try to control is what makes people different from each other. Some people just let it loose and some people try to control it. From there, it'll branch out more and more to what makes up all the people in the world


Human nature is not based on greed, it is based on self-interest, which is very different. Greed means you want what is best for you or that you want to have many things, physical or emotional. Self interest means you think about satisfying your needs and wants above someone else's; however, it might not be about what is best for you. For example, a mother might feed her infant child but not herself; this is not greed since she is not taking the food for herself, but it is self interested since she is more interested in saving her infant's life than her own. Similarly, someone might devote their life to help the poor because it is what satisfies them the most; again, this is self interest, not greed.

~MCMXCI


Self interest is personal interest or advantage...basically, a smaller and more detail group part of greed. If you don't trust that definition, search up any written dictionary. Plus, greed doesn't have to be for only that person. Like the mother you used in your example. She has the greed to make sure that her child to survive.


We are both saying the same thing just with a different word. Therefore it is personal interest - greed or self interest - that is the basis of human nature. That and the biological need to guarantee the survival of our species.

~MCMXCI
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i do not think that you've actually figured out human nature.
no one is able to understand human nature. haha.
we can only get close to understanding it but not fully. yupps.
oh wells. great job for trying to think through such a topic.
haha. it's interesting to see who else has more answers to your question
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humans are humans after all...
terrible creatures~
but we all die in the end so who cares~
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What is Human Nature? ~_~ I wrote a paper for this, for philosophy class, and clearly =_=; I forgot my binder at school.........................................hahahahahahahaha anyways..........

Philosopher Thomas Hobbies (1588-1679) lived during a long period of civil war, He wrote that without government, human life is "Nasty, brutish, and short." Because of scarcity, Hobbes believed, people must be willing to surrender their freedom to a ruler. That ruler must have absolute power, backed by force, otherwise human selfishness would always lead to civil conflict and war. ----- Thus according to him; human nature is selfish.

French Philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778) disagreed. He believed humans' state of nature --- before societies and government came in to being --- was free and friendly. "Men was born free, but everywhere he is in chains," Rousseau wrote in The Social Contract in 1762.

There are many different arguments to 'What is human nature' but we first have to examine our own point of view; why do we think that? how? would i think any differently under different conditions? --- afterwards then we can make a conclusion---and hopefully it wouldn't be biased.

Though me personally -- this is my point of view; but you can feel free and attack it --- I think human nature is a give or take thing, under different culture influences and different up bringing, everyone's nature is different. We cannot say the WHOLE WORLD share the same nature. For say, like myself; If i do not pause and think about it i'd say human nature is a pretty ugly thing. --- since it's the only logical thing to assume due to the fact that i grew up in an environment where everyone only cares for themselves and would cheat anyone or everyone for money; even their own family, own brother, own parents. ---- but if I come out of that limited box and see the world in a different light; if I look at the fun raising for the cure for breast cancer, or the Terry Fox run--- etc etc those things a like--- this world isn't really THAT crappy; and the people here aren't really all that ugly.

so in conclusion; to answer the big question 'What is Human Nature'? i guess; its to adapt and to learn. If one was taught good then they (most likely) will be good. if one was taught bad; they then will (most likely) be bad. (now keep in mind, the words 'good' and 'bad' can mean different things--- there's really NOTHING bad about being selfish--its not against the law) --- so in that sense, human nature isn't really ugly, or selfish, or selfless. or really anything--- but of course in the Darwin's Evolution Theory would say 'Human nature is to survive' XD that's also another answer. XD
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MCMXCI wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:


MCMXCI wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:

Human nature is based on greed...but the way people try to control is what makes people different from each other. Some people just let it loose and some people try to control it. From there, it'll branch out more and more to what makes up all the people in the world


Human nature is not based on greed, it is based on self-interest, which is very different. Greed means you want what is best for you or that you want to have many things, physical or emotional. Self interest means you think about satisfying your needs and wants above someone else's; however, it might not be about what is best for you. For example, a mother might feed her infant child but not herself; this is not greed since she is not taking the food for herself, but it is self interested since she is more interested in saving her infant's life than her own. Similarly, someone might devote their life to help the poor because it is what satisfies them the most; again, this is self interest, not greed.

~MCMXCI


Self interest is personal interest or advantage...basically, a smaller and more detail group part of greed. If you don't trust that definition, search up any written dictionary. Plus, greed doesn't have to be for only that person. Like the mother you used in your example. She has the greed to make sure that her child to survive.


We are both saying the same thing just with a different word. Therefore it is personal interest - greed or self interest - that is the basis of human nature. That and the biological need to guarantee the survival of our species.

~MCMXCI


And then our nature roots from that
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well I support free speech so I was very amused and I really don't care if you discover the meaning to life or not but it's enlightening...not many I know think that way.


Well that's interesting but how do you personally think people think?


Look, I don't know what the majority of "people" in the world think alright. I haven't met the whole world yet. I can only draw on my personal experience with the close people that I know. So stop you're smart ass comments. don't pick fights with people who you don't even know. Better yet, why the hell are you in this topic discussion if you have no interest in it? I was enlightened. opinion hello. That was what the topic starter was asking about, not your I-want-to-be-so-smart rude comments.


im not being a smart ass...i was asking a serious question to hear your views on how people think, but since you want to make everything an argument then fine.
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What is Human Nature? ~_~ I wrote a paper for this, for philosophy class, and clearly =_=; I forgot my binder at school.........................................hahahahahahahaha anyways..........

Philosopher Thomas Hobbies (1588-1679) lived during a long period of civil war, He wrote that without government, human life is "Nasty, brutish, and short." Because of scarcity, Hobbes believed, people must be willing to surrender their freedom to a ruler. That ruler must have absolute power, backed by force, otherwise human selfishness would always lead to civil conflict and war. ----- Thus according to him; human nature is selfish.

French Philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778) disagreed. He believed humans' state of nature --- before societies and government came in to being --- was free and friendly. "Men was born free, but everywhere he is in chains," Rousseau wrote in The Social Contract in 1762.

There are many different arguments to 'What is human nature' but we first have to examine our own point of view; why do we think that? how? would i think any differently under different conditions? --- afterwards then we can make a conclusion---and hopefully it wouldn't be biased.

Though me personally -- this is my point of view; but you can feel free and attack it --- I think human nature is a give or take thing, under different culture influences and different up bringing, everyone's nature is different. We cannot say the WHOLE WORLD share the same nature. For say, like myself; If i do not pause and think about it i'd say human nature is a pretty ugly thing. --- since it's the only logical thing to assume due to the fact that i grew up in an environment where everyone only cares for themselves and would cheat anyone or everyone for money; even their own family, own brother, own parents. ---- but if I come out of that limited box and see the world in a different light; if I look at the fun raising for the cure for breast cancer, or the Terry Fox run--- etc etc those things a like--- this world isn't really THAT crappy; and the people here aren't really all that ugly.

so in conclusion; to answer the big question 'What is Human Nature'? i guess; its to adapt and to learn. If one was taught good then they (most likely) will be good. if one was taught bad; they then will (most likely) be bad. (now keep in mind, the words 'good' and 'bad' can mean different things--- there's really NOTHING bad about being selfish--its not against the law) --- so in that sense, human nature isn't really ugly, or selfish, or selfless. or really anything--- but of course in the Darwin's Evolution Theory would say 'Human nature is to survive' XD that's also another answer. XD


hehe good job writing this. It was a pretty interesting read. It's kind of funny though.
What i reckon is.. If you're on CR.. You will try to make your statement as compact as possible coz the majority of people here have this sheer lack of attention span. Which was a shame. I would've like you to elaborate more. Ah well.

Anyway. Mm. Although you did raise a good point. I have to say a couple of things there is at odds with what I personally believe.

The human nature that I was writing about in my first post is referring to that.. forbiden fruit complex we all have deep down inside (to what degree depends on the individual of coz). Like.. say.. watching anime for example (just for simplicity sake here). First time I was here.. I just couldn't stop watching. This website was like a pot of gold to me. I was soo thankful that shinji created this website here. (it was hard finding anime movie anywhere else before CR. specially here in NZ).

And well now i'm just desensitized of it all. There's no more excitement of what anime i'm gonna watch tommorow. I'm pretty sick of it atm actually. But yet.. a year ago.. I would've died happy having a chance to watch all the anime I want.

So the point is... I feel like that desensitization applies to people's life also these days (including me btw). Whereas back in the ancient age we would be thankful to survive another day. Nowadays suicide and depression rate are pretty high.

Sure some part of the world still have to face trying to survive every single day just like in caveman days. They can't afford that luxury of being depressed and wanting to kill themselves. But say, even if they hypothetically get to the point where they live like us in a developed countries... The world will still be full of misery here and there (u know the depression, suicide and obesity thing). And it's back to the thing I said. They're just chasing illusion. Just like all of us. They probably are so desperate to get out of the shithole they live in. When they do get out... Well, it's a way better, more comfortable shithole. But still a shithole.

I do agree though! that not everything in this world is bad. I believe the world is neutral. There's as many good things as the bad. So even if we're all just chasing happiness that isn't really there.. It's okay.. Sometimes the journey is more enjoyable than the destination. I'm just feeling unfortunate because I realize all this way too soon. I'd be happy to be a carefree thinker and just enjoy the ride instead of being too aware of it. But owell. No use crying over spilled milk rite. hehe
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BlargTheCat wrote:


MCMXCI wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:


MCMXCI wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:

Human nature is based on greed...but the way people try to control is what makes people different from each other. Some people just let it loose and some people try to control it. From there, it'll branch out more and more to what makes up all the people in the world


Human nature is not based on greed, it is based on self-interest, which is very different. Greed means you want what is best for you or that you want to have many things, physical or emotional. Self interest means you think about satisfying your needs and wants above someone else's; however, it might not be about what is best for you. For example, a mother might feed her infant child but not herself; this is not greed since she is not taking the food for herself, but it is self interested since she is more interested in saving her infant's life than her own. Similarly, someone might devote their life to help the poor because it is what satisfies them the most; again, this is self interest, not greed.

~MCMXCI


Self interest is personal interest or advantage...basically, a smaller and more detail group part of greed. If you don't trust that definition, search up any written dictionary. Plus, greed doesn't have to be for only that person. Like the mother you used in your example. She has the greed to make sure that her child to survive.


We are both saying the same thing just with a different word. Therefore it is personal interest - greed or self interest - that is the basis of human nature. That and the biological need to guarantee the survival of our species.

~MCMXCI


And then our nature roots from that


See.. Gentlemen, this is what i was trying to say.

I agree.

Human nature is based on greed/self interest (whichever term we're comfortable with here). Which.. as MCM pointed out.. is a bit of a grey area here because it's not always a bad thing.

(Majority of cases, it is a bad thing though. Maybe it's just me. But i feel this capitalism era (a luxurious home for greed and self-interest) that we're living in isn't really working.)

Anyway that's not the point. Point is. Greed or self-interest. We all want something in life.

Point is. When we actually get it it's not as exciting as we thought it'll be. Matter of fact, the whole period of the "chase" is what's.. way, way , way more exciting. (I dunno about you guys.. at least people that i know - including me - feel that way sometimes).

And I was remarking that.. it's just so crazy and absurd. Because that just means we're chasing something that's not really there. What's the point rite? I mean, it's not that bad. Sometimes we'd still appreciate this hypothetical thing that we're discussing here.

But the irony still sticks.

Don't it?
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supermalv wrote:


Omok wrote:

What is Human Nature? ~_~ I wrote a paper for this, for philosophy class, and clearly =_=; I forgot my binder at school.........................................hahahahahahahaha anyways..........

Philosopher Thomas Hobbies (1588-1679) lived during a long period of civil war, He wrote that without government, human life is "Nasty, brutish, and short." Because of scarcity, Hobbes believed, people must be willing to surrender their freedom to a ruler. That ruler must have absolute power, backed by force, otherwise human selfishness would always lead to civil conflict and war. ----- Thus according to him; human nature is selfish.

French Philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778) disagreed. He believed humans' state of nature --- before societies and government came in to being --- was free and friendly. "Men was born free, but everywhere he is in chains," Rousseau wrote in The Social Contract in 1762.

There are many different arguments to 'What is human nature' but we first have to examine our own point of view; why do we think that? how? would i think any differently under different conditions? --- afterwards then we can make a conclusion---and hopefully it wouldn't be biased.

Though me personally -- this is my point of view; but you can feel free and attack it --- I think human nature is a give or take thing, under different culture influences and different up bringing, everyone's nature is different. We cannot say the WHOLE WORLD share the same nature. For say, like myself; If i do not pause and think about it i'd say human nature is a pretty ugly thing. --- since it's the only logical thing to assume due to the fact that i grew up in an environment where everyone only cares for themselves and would cheat anyone or everyone for money; even their own family, own brother, own parents. ---- but if I come out of that limited box and see the world in a different light; if I look at the fun raising for the cure for breast cancer, or the Terry Fox run--- etc etc those things a like--- this world isn't really THAT crappy; and the people here aren't really all that ugly.

so in conclusion; to answer the big question 'What is Human Nature'? i guess; its to adapt and to learn. If one was taught good then they (most likely) will be good. if one was taught bad; they then will (most likely) be bad. (now keep in mind, the words 'good' and 'bad' can mean different things--- there's really NOTHING bad about being selfish--its not against the law) --- so in that sense, human nature isn't really ugly, or selfish, or selfless. or really anything--- but of course in the Darwin's Evolution Theory would say 'Human nature is to survive' XD that's also another answer. XD


hehe good job writing this. It was a pretty interesting read. It's kind of funny though.
What i reckon is.. If you're on CR.. You will try to make your statement as compact as possible coz the majority of people here have this sheer lack of attention span. Which was a shame. I would've like you to elaborate more. Ah well.

Anyway. Mm. Although you did raise a good point. I have to say a couple of things there is at odds with what I personally believe.

The human nature that I was writing about in my first post is referring to that.. forbiden fruit complex we all have deep down inside (to what degree depends on the individual of coz). Like.. say.. watching anime for example (just for simplicity sake here). First time I was here.. I just couldn't stop watching. This website was like a pot of gold to me. I was soo thankful that shinji created this website here. (it was hard finding anime movie anywhere else before CR. specially here in NZ).

And well now i'm just desensitized of it all. There's no more excitement of what anime i'm gonna watch tommorow. I'm pretty sick of it atm actually. But yet.. a year ago.. I would've died happy having a chance to watch all the anime I want.

So the point is... I feel like that desensitization applies to people's life also these days (including me btw). Whereas back in the ancient age we would be thankful to survive another day. Nowadays suicide and depression rate are pretty high.

Sure some part of the world still have to face trying to survive every single day just like in caveman days. They can't afford that luxury of being depressed and wanting to kill themselves. But say, even if they hypothetically get to the point where they live like us in a developed countries... The world will still be full of misery here and there (u know the depression, suicide and obesity thing). And it's back to the thing I said. They're just chasing illusion. Just like all of us. They probably are so desperate to get out of the shithole they live in. When they do get out... Well, it's a way better, more comfortable shithole. But still a shithole.

I do agree though! that not everything in this world is bad. I believe the world is neutral. There's as many good things as the bad. So even if we're all just chasing happiness that isn't really there.. It's okay.. Sometimes the journey is more enjoyable than the destination. I'm just feeling unfortunate because I realize all this way too soon. I'd be happy to be a carefree thinker and just enjoy the ride instead of being too aware of it. But owell. No use crying over spilled milk rite. hehe


Random fact: currently eating microwaved marsh potatoes and it tastes like crap. =_=; (not that i have tried crap; but im prettttyyy *almost* positive that it can't taste wose than this marsh potato.)

Anyways....

Lol, thanks for saying i wrote a good job; turned out; my teacher didn't even bother marking my paper=_=; just did a homework check =_=; --- but apparently the first unit in philosophy class right now is 'Human Nature' =_=;

For the ' desensitization ' thing, I believe it's true; after all; we get bored of what we already know. -- Thus we like to seek out new things; new knowledge, new land, new people. New. but we have to keep in mind, in order for there to be happiness (my theory again) there must be sadness and sorrow. a person living in a 3rd world environment is born 'without' many many things that 'many' of us in 1st world societies would take for granted would cherish the same thing much more. if we are to give two different kids -- same age; same gender; same everything but genetics and cultural back ground--- one from 3rd world, one from 1st world....if we are to give the two kids each a..toy car? both of the kids would love it; but logically the 3rd world child would cherish it more so than the 1st world child; because 3rd world child LACK the car, and the 1st world child already have many other cars. ---- similar theory applies to food; water; house; education; money. (etc)

misery, happiness, sorrow, joy...(etc) are just how we're raised up in to perceiving things. there's always two sides to the same issue( but the sides; may not have to be completely different). As a human living in this society; we're raised by our culture and environment to notice the bad things in life more so than the good things; we take the good sides of things for granted and only focus on the bad sad (natural reaction; yes i happen to have taken psychology class too xD)

as a person living in a 3rd world place, sure; when we look at them, we'll pity them and think they're living in a horrible environment that we'd never want to go in a million years; but for them; they have never really BEEN living life like how we do; that world the live; is the ONLY world they see. They cannot use that world to compare to our world; their goal in life is to LIVE. as for us; our goal in life....is lost. sure; we want to live too; but its so much simpler, if we don't have money, no place to live, we have the government, if we're disabled, we have the government, we have family, we have people who CAN help. --- so our life; have really lost an 'basic goal', since its' so much easier. (similarly; a person who goes through a lot of break downs; just breaks down and feel numb. like how when you hurt yourself for the first time; it's always more painful; but after a while; you just get use to it *mentally* --- like how kids cry when getting a paper cut and how you wouldn't cry if you got a paper cut*physical*) ---- so really; its debatable to whom have a better life. A person from 3rd world; who fights to live every day--- or a person from 1st world; who wonders WHY they live every day. --- how i see it; is that we're living in a bigger shit hole than them psychologically.
Posted 9/30/08
if we are the same whats the sense of learning new things
Posted 9/30/08

supermalv wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:


MCMXCI wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:


MCMXCI wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:

Human nature is based on greed...but the way people try to control is what makes people different from each other. Some people just let it loose and some people try to control it. From there, it'll branch out more and more to what makes up all the people in the world


Human nature is not based on greed, it is based on self-interest, which is very different. Greed means you want what is best for you or that you want to have many things, physical or emotional. Self interest means you think about satisfying your needs and wants above someone else's; however, it might not be about what is best for you. For example, a mother might feed her infant child but not herself; this is not greed since she is not taking the food for herself, but it is self interested since she is more interested in saving her infant's life than her own. Similarly, someone might devote their life to help the poor because it is what satisfies them the most; again, this is self interest, not greed.

~MCMXCI


Self interest is personal interest or advantage...basically, a smaller and more detail group part of greed. If you don't trust that definition, search up any written dictionary. Plus, greed doesn't have to be for only that person. Like the mother you used in your example. She has the greed to make sure that her child to survive.


We are both saying the same thing just with a different word. Therefore it is personal interest - greed or self interest - that is the basis of human nature. That and the biological need to guarantee the survival of our species.

~MCMXCI


And then our nature roots from that


See.. Gentlemen, this is what i was trying to say.

I agree.

Human nature is based on greed/self interest (whichever term we're comfortable with here). Which.. as MCM pointed out.. is a bit of a grey area here because it's not always a bad thing.

(Majority of cases, it is a bad thing though. Maybe it's just me. But i feel this capitalism era (a luxurious home for greed and self-interest) that we're living in isn't really working.)

Anyway that's not the point. Point is. Greed or self-interest. We all want something in life.

Point is. When we actually get it it's not as exciting as we thought it'll be. Matter of fact, the whole period of the "chase" is what's.. way, way , way more exciting. (I dunno about you guys.. at least people that i know - including me - feel that way sometimes).

And I was remarking that.. it's just so crazy and absurd. Because that just means we're chasing something that's not really there. What's the point rite? I mean, it's not that bad. Sometimes we'd still appreciate this hypothetical thing that we're discussing here.

But the irony still sticks.

Don't it?


*nods*
isnt amazing!!!!
we are such amazing people/human
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supermalv wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:


MCMXCI wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:


MCMXCI wrote:


BlargTheCat wrote:

Human nature is based on greed...but the way people try to control is what makes people different from each other. Some people just let it loose and some people try to control it. From there, it'll branch out more and more to what makes up all the people in the world


Human nature is not based on greed, it is based on self-interest, which is very different. Greed means you want what is best for you or that you want to have many things, physical or emotional. Self interest means you think about satisfying your needs and wants above someone else's; however, it might not be about what is best for you. For example, a mother might feed her infant child but not herself; this is not greed since she is not taking the food for herself, but it is self interested since she is more interested in saving her infant's life than her own. Similarly, someone might devote their life to help the poor because it is what satisfies them the most; again, this is self interest, not greed.

~MCMXCI


Self interest is personal interest or advantage...basically, a smaller and more detail group part of greed. If you don't trust that definition, search up any written dictionary. Plus, greed doesn't have to be for only that person. Like the mother you used in your example. She has the greed to make sure that her child to survive.


We are both saying the same thing just with a different word. Therefore it is personal interest - greed or self interest - that is the basis of human nature. That and the biological need to guarantee the survival of our species.

~MCMXCI


And then our nature roots from that


See.. Gentlemen, this is what i was trying to say.

I agree.

Human nature is based on greed/self interest (whichever term we're comfortable with here). Which.. as MCM pointed out.. is a bit of a grey area here because it's not always a bad thing.

(Majority of cases, it is a bad thing though. Maybe it's just me. But i feel this capitalism era (a luxurious home for greed and self-interest) that we're living in isn't really working.)

Anyway that's not the point. Point is. Greed or self-interest. We all want something in life.

Point is. When we actually get it it's not as exciting as we thought it'll be. Matter of fact, the whole period of the "chase" is what's.. way, way , way more exciting. (I dunno about you guys.. at least people that i know - including me - feel that way sometimes).

And I was remarking that.. it's just so crazy and absurd. Because that just means we're chasing something that's not really there. What's the point rite? I mean, it's not that bad. Sometimes we'd still appreciate this hypothetical thing that we're discussing here.

But the irony still sticks.

Don't it?


That is rather extreme to say human nature is self interest; human nature is supposedly something that is shared between all humans, no matter the society, time, cultural/family/personal back ground, environment, (etc you get the point)

we can't say that all humans want something in life; sure; some may; but take myself for example, I have short term/long term goals; but what do i WANT out of LIFE? --- i have NO IDEA. what's the point of life? I tired my best to solve that; isn't working so far. ---- Basically; not everyone may share the same views; and if a group or a number of people who does not share the same view under all time, place, cultural back ground (etc) -- it cannot be seen as human nature....

We're raised to believe (by our common culture) of the importance in something is the 'result'. but to be more correct; it's actually the experience. --- if we think about it; there really is NOTHING bad or empty about the result being boring; after all, all humans do is "born, live, die" and things in 'between' that actually matters. --- the point of everything, is that it have 'been'. We need to change our primary view of 'if the result sucks; then the whole thing sucked'. (like how i mentioned before that humans only focus on bad things)


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if we are the same whats the sense of learning new things


because we have a thrust for knowledge, we're interested by new things. because we're interested, so therefore we learn it. --------- You know how you tent to always forget things for school? it's because you're not interested in it; while on the other hand if your best friend told you some gossip; you'd have NO PROBLEMS remembering it at all--- it's because you're interested in it.
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From my studies of human nature I can come to this conclusion.
Men like boobies.
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From my studies of human nature I can come to this conclusion.
Men like boobies.


that's not a human nature; since women do not share the same interest. =_=;

men only naturally like boobs because boobs is a sign of good child birth and ability to have kids. the bigger boobs a girl have; the more female hormones she have. and that means she'll be of more advantage in giving birth to healthier children.
Posted 9/30/08

Omok wrote:


KinkyHamster wrote:

From my studies of human nature I can come to this conclusion.
Men like boobies.


that's not a human nature; since women do not share the same interest. =_=;

men only naturally like boobs because boobs is a sign of good child birth and ability to have kids. the bigger boobs a girl have; the more female hormones she have. and that means she'll be of more advantage in giving birth to healthier children.

Some women naturally prefer other women over men....is that not accountable for both sexes?
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