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Posted 9/17/08

St-Luke wrote:

Do you think the world would be better if we all united under one leader and shared everything?


I don't know...

I'm just wondering that it would only happen when the planet Earth is finally invaded by aliens or highly advanced outer lifeforms.

But still, I just shrugged my shoulder that if that happens, the warmongers would ruin everything.
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Does that mean we can have all the limited collection games brought by the Otakus'?!
Posted 9/17/08
The only way this whole entire world could even be united is that we have the same or similar mind set and similar interest. I think the U.S. military and other military figures came up with an idea to unite everyone in the whole world. At the rate wars were being waged, we were basically going to wipe each other out. So they hatched the plan of an alien invasion. Common enemy and common interest. This way, everyone on earth would have something in common and unite under a single banner.

Having a religious figure who could pull of miracles out of his ass is another one. Kind of like a global messiah figure.

Another way is to centralize money to the rich elitist families. They would rule the world together and have everyone below them as peasants. This is the most realistic so far.
Posted 9/17/08
Probably the closest thing we can ever come to about it is some sort of "world republic". Even this idea will be hard to come by though not entirely impossible as opposed to one central power over the entire world. It's just human nature that we're competitive and that we forward our ideas as "best" and for those who think differently, there is no end to a series of negotiations but rather compromises built upon previous ones. With that kind of system, hardly a central power would flourish under diverse conditions. Finally the majority of the people would not feel quite comfortable leaving too much power to a handful of people or one person for that matter.

Now in an alternate dimension, it would probably work somewhat if several planets with intelligent beings come into the fray. By then countries and borders become insignificant compared to planetary and star system control, just a larger scale of what we're in right now. Yet as it stands, that scenario is farfetched for the time being.
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I don't think so, we all have our selfishness over something ^__^ and now having one leader?? it wont work coz other countries would like their leader to be the leader of the world as well as others and it may also lead to a war .... it may start world war 3 ~__~.... hope not ~_~
Posted 9/17/08
A single leader is possible but it has to be a great person who is both intelligent and charismatic.
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Posted 9/17/08

vajmichael wrote:

The only way this whole entire world could even be united is that we have the same or similar mind set and similar interest. I think the U.S. military and other military figures came up with an idea to unite everyone in the whole world. At the rate wars were being waged, we were basically going to wipe each other out. So they hatched the plan of an alien invasion. Common enemy and common interest. This way, everyone on earth would have something in common and unite under a single banner.

Having a religious figure who could pull of miracles out of his ass is another one. Kind of like a global messiah figure.

Another way is to centralize money to the rich elitist families. They would rule the world together and have everyone below them as peasants. This is the most realistic so far.


Read Watchmen lately?

Unless the global economy collapses out of nowhere, then the last scenario will never happen.
Posted 9/17/08
Watchmen? I don't even think I know what that is.

Ask yourself who are in control of the banking system and you'll get your answer. This is the Age of Bankers and the proliferation of credit.
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Posted 9/17/08

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Watchmen? I don't even think I know what that is.

Ask yourself who are in control of the banking system and you'll get your answer. This is the Age of Bankers and the proliferation of credit.


Watchmen the graphical novel. The scheme of the bad guy revolves around stopping the possibility of WWIII by introducing an 'alien' menace. This ends any thoughts of nuclear war between the U.S. and Russia, and they agree on an armistice to deal with the 'alien' threat first.

Okay, let's suppose your hypothetical scenario comes true. This would pretty much render most companies and corporations bankrupt and useless.

Posted 9/17/08
Ah, Watchmen the graphic novel. Never heard of it. I'll look it up some other time.

Not exactly. The banking industry has been around for a very long time now and it appears to have no end. Just take a look at the companies and corporations around you. Things are working out fine as long as those in charge desire it.

Was that the scenario you were directing your attention to?
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Posted 9/18/08

BrylleNoGotoku wrote:

Doing that will not lead to utopia, but to dystopia.

An impossible dream is impossible. One man (or a group) can't control the world. A single corruption of a leader will lead to a global problem. A person like Hitler as a leader would be too devastating. And, blah blah blah.


i wasnt gonna really comment till i saw this "A person like Hitler as a leader would be too devastating.". Do you realize what Hitler did in his first 4 years of rule? He also would have united the world except for that killing jews thing( the hating jews thing was normal at that time but no one really put it into effect). anyhow i would say the opposite would occur Hitler was never once corrupt; never a coward(except for the suicide thing) knew what the priorities for his country was(education, youth volunteering, strong economy, good foreign relations, what the "morally proper" family was like, etc.) sure it wouldn't be a utopia i doubt that is possible, but this would be quite close a world united (i mean he may exterminate a part of the race but aren't we always talking about over population and prices of food and housing going up?*jkn*) i doubt any1 else than hitler could acomplish this though.
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Posted 9/18/08

vajmichael wrote:

Ah, Watchmen the graphic novel. Never heard of it. I'll look it up some other time.

Not exactly. The banking industry has been around for a very long time now and it appears to have no end. Just take a look at the companies and corporations around you. Things are working out fine as long as those in charge desire it.

Was that the scenario you were directing your attention to?


I think you underemphasize the role of the other part of the world in keeping the economy afloat. And you haven't followed the logical conclusion from my statement.

EDIT: Please quote my post so I know if you responded or not.
Posted 9/18/08 , edited 9/18/08

leviathan343 wrote:


vajmichael wrote:

Ah, Watchmen the graphic novel. Never heard of it. I'll look it up some other time.

Not exactly. The banking industry has been around for a very long time now and it appears to have no end. Just take a look at the companies and corporations around you. Things are working out fine as long as those in charge desire it.

Was that the scenario you were directing your attention to?


I think you underemphasize the role of the other part of the world in keeping the economy afloat. And you haven't followed the logical conclusion from my statement.

EDIT: Please quote my post so I know if you responded or not.


Excuse me leviathan343. I've been a bit lazy with all this quoting stuff. Didn't know you were that serious about debating. I suppose you need one every now and then to keep yourself sharp.

Back to the topic, what were you saying again? And which scenario were you directing your post at? Was it to my last scenario?
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Posted 9/18/08

realdry wrote:


BrylleNoGotoku wrote:

Doing that will not lead to utopia, but to dystopia.

An impossible dream is impossible. One man (or a group) can't control the world. A single corruption of a leader will lead to a global problem. A person like Hitler as a leader would be too devastating. And, blah blah blah.


i wasnt gonna really comment till i saw this "A person like Hitler as a leader would be too devastating.". Do you realize what Hitler did in his first 4 years of rule? He also would have united the world except for that killing jews thing( the hating jews thing was normal at that time but no one really put it into effect). anyhow i would say the opposite would occur Hitler was never once corrupt; never a coward(except for the suicide thing) knew what the priorities for his country was(education, youth volunteering, strong economy, good foreign relations, what the "morally proper" family was like, etc.) sure it wouldn't be a utopia i doubt that is possible, but this would be quite close a world united (i mean he may exterminate a part of the race but aren't we always talking about over population and prices of food and housing going up?*jkn*) i doubt any1 else than hitler could acomplish this though.


I was referring to his Holocaust. That is why I said it will be too devastating.
Posted 9/18/08

realdry wrote:


BrylleNoGotoku wrote:

Doing that will not lead to utopia, but to dystopia.

An impossible dream is impossible. One man (or a group) can't control the world. A single corruption of a leader will lead to a global problem. A person like Hitler as a leader would be too devastating. And, blah blah blah.


i wasnt gonna really comment till i saw this "A person like Hitler as a leader would be too devastating.". Do you realize what Hitler did in his first 4 years of rule? He also would have united the world except for that killing jews thing( the hating jews thing was normal at that time but no one really put it into effect). anyhow i would say the opposite would occur Hitler was never once corrupt; never a coward(except for the suicide thing) knew what the priorities for his country was(education, youth volunteering, strong economy, good foreign relations, what the "morally proper" family was like, etc.) sure it wouldn't be a utopia i doubt that is possible, but this would be quite close a world united (i mean he may exterminate a part of the race but aren't we always talking about over population and prices of food and housing going up?*jkn*) i doubt any1 else than hitler could acomplish this though.


I loled. Hitler, was a white supremacist. Hitler believed that he was of a superior race, and everybody else was inferior, and he took anti antisemitism to a whole new level. How wold a person like Hitler not be devastating? He is a racist, narrow minded extremist who used a whole people as scapegoats, killed them, just to make him and his government look better. Hitler never believed in good foreign relations, unless signing pacts to buy time until you attack people is good foreign relations, or taking over place's like Czechoslovakia is good foreign relations. Hitler is also a fascist, and in case you didn't know, that means if he was the ruler, we wouldn't be communicating on these computers the way we are right now, disrespecting the Nazi party. A world ruled by Hitler, or rather the Nazi party, would be a world were you wouldn't have your own mind, and would be doing everything the government wanted you to do no objections, unless your me or any other non white or non Japanese person, in which good luck. (Unless of course, you mean the axis didn't cooperate and Hitler was just the leader, in which, all Asian race's would be inferior to.)
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