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Christianity is FAITH not religion.
Posted 9/20/08
Oh, and you really wrote that? Hmm, not bad. But oh wow...http://www.christianblog.com/blog/blessings2you/christianity-is-faith-not-a-religion/

Seriously, what you are doing is plagiarism, and that's quite unlawful.

Anyway, a religion is a set of various rituals, traditions, practices, laws etc. thus Christianity is a religion. Whether people actually really have faith in those dogmas is another question.

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Wow, that was very deep and profound and I agree with you. So many times do we see people who do "good things" but have to personal faith. Religion does not produce faith, faith produces "religion." What I mean by that statement is, because we have Faith in God and Jesus Christ, we love Him. And because we Love Him, we serve Him with our hearts and actions. Faith comes from the inside out. Because we have faith in Jesus Christ, we can overcome the trials of life and do "good deeds." We do them not for social reward or to bribe God, we do them because we willingly want to serve our Savior with all of our heart and actions. Faith also means not living in sin. Because we have faith, we choose to overcome temptation. Faith radiates from the inside out. Religion tries to radiate from the outside in. Religion starts outside with "good works" ad church attendance, all things that would make us look like a "good person." These acts eventually do work themselves in from the outside, but they damage. Religion hardens the heart and actually conflicts with faith. In essence, faith in Jesus Christ doesn't produce "religion," but rather it produces love. What some call "religious faith" is love for Jesus Christ our Savior. The Bible clearly states this.
1Cr 13:2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
Gal 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.
1Th 1:3 We continually remember before our God and Father your work produced by faith, your labor prompted by love, and your endurance inspired by hope in our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Ti 1:5 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
Tts 3:15 Everyone with me sends you greetings. Greet those who love us in the faith. Grace be with you all.

This proves how Christianity isn't a "religion." But a Relationship! And it is Faith, not rituals. This sets apart Christians from the rest of the world, and from the rest of all religion. Christianity is about a personal relationship with God. No other "religion" is like that. All others are about "appeasing" God and working your way into heaven (or a better afterlife, weather it be reincarnation, or whatever) Christianity is the Truth :)
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By the basic definition of the word, religion is "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects" (according to dictionary.com), and Christianity falls under that definition. You all believe that you have a close, personal relationship with God (beliefs) and you all believe that living a sinless life is the way to get into heaven (practices).

Although I guess it would make sense to think of it as not being a real religion, since few other religions are full of so many people that interpret their holy texts and their god's teachings in so many radically different ways different ways.

One question: doesn't living a sinless life count as "appeasing" God, since you can't get into heaven unless you do that for him?
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Cuddlebuns wrote:

By the basic definition of the word, religion is "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects" (according to dictionary.com), and Christianity falls under that definition. You all believe that you have a close, personal relationship with God (beliefs) and you all believe that living a sinless life is the way to get into heaven (practices).

Although I guess it would make sense to think of it as not being a real religion, since few other religions are full of so many people that interpret their holy texts and their god's teachings in so many radically different ways different ways.

One question: doesn't living a sinless life count as "appeasing" God, since you can't get into heaven unless you do that for him?


No one can live a sinless life though, that's the point. If no one ever ever sinned then theoretically yes, one could go to heaven. The point is that we need forgiveness for our sins. Jesus is the only person to have ever lived a sinless life, which is why his death atones and gives Him authority over the forgiveness of sins.
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digs wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:

By the basic definition of the word, religion is "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects" (according to dictionary.com), and Christianity falls under that definition. You all believe that you have a close, personal relationship with God (beliefs) and you all believe that living a sinless life is the way to get into heaven (practices).

Although I guess it would make sense to think of it as not being a real religion, since few other religions are full of so many people that interpret their holy texts and their god's teachings in so many radically different ways different ways.

One question: doesn't living a sinless life count as "appeasing" God, since you can't get into heaven unless you do that for him?


No one can live a sinless life though, that's the point. If no one ever ever sinned then theoretically yes, one could go to heaven. The point is that we need forgiveness for our sins. Jesus is the only person to have ever lived a sinless life, which is why his death atones and gives Him authority over the forgiveness of sins.


Well you have to do something to earn forgiveness, right? Whether it be praying, going to church regularly, turning your life around, or whatever, you have to earn Jesus's approval by doing something that pleases him so that he can consider you worthy to be forgiven. Doesn't sound too much different from a lot of other religions.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:


digs wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:

By the basic definition of the word, religion is "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects" (according to dictionary.com), and Christianity falls under that definition. You all believe that you have a close, personal relationship with God (beliefs) and you all believe that living a sinless life is the way to get into heaven (practices).

Although I guess it would make sense to think of it as not being a real religion, since few other religions are full of so many people that interpret their holy texts and their god's teachings in so many radically different ways different ways.

One question: doesn't living a sinless life count as "appeasing" God, since you can't get into heaven unless you do that for him?


No one can live a sinless life though, that's the point. If no one ever ever sinned then theoretically yes, one could go to heaven. The point is that we need forgiveness for our sins. Jesus is the only person to have ever lived a sinless life, which is why his death atones and gives Him authority over the forgiveness of sins.


Well you have to do something to earn forgiveness, right? Whether it be praying, going to church regularly, turning your life around, or whatever, you have to earn Jesus's approval by doing something that pleases him so that he can consider you worthy to be forgiven. Doesn't sound too much different from a lot of other religions.


We can't "earn" our forgiveness. That would be us justifying our sins and basically forgiving ourselves. Forgiveness is free, but to be forgiven one must repent and have faith, Repentance isn't saying sorry and then doing what you want, repentance is saying sorry and turning from your sins because you know that they are evil. Repentance is a heart change, not a ritual.
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We can't "earn" our forgiveness. That would be us justifying our sins and basically forgiving ourselves. Forgiveness is free, but to be forgiven one must repent and have faith, Repentance isn't saying sorry and then doing what you want, repentance is saying sorry and turning from your sins because you know that they are evil. Repentance is a heart change, not a ritual.


But it's still doing something to earn his approval, which is appeasement, which is what a lot of of other religions do and what you said Christians don't have to do.
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Why can a human love another human for their essential being, but God cannot?

If God loves us unconditionally, why must we be changed in order to live with Him? If God is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, then why must we adjust ourselves to be in His presence? Is it not within His ability to forgive us of our sins (being omnipotent has that slight hitch to it)? And if He didn't want us to be this way, why create us with the capacity to sin? Hell, how can a perfect being make an imperfect creation (unless He aimed to)?
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leviathan343 wrote:

Why can a human love another human for their essential being, but God cannot?

If God loves us unconditionally, why must we be changed in order to live with Him?


Atheism to the rescue!!!
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Kanone wrote:


leviathan343 wrote:

Why can a human love another human for their essential being, but God cannot?

If God loves us unconditionally, why must we be changed in order to live with Him?


Atheism to the rescue!!!


Not making claims. Just asking questions.
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leviathan343 wrote:


Kanone wrote:


leviathan343 wrote:

Why can a human love another human for their essential being, but God cannot?

If God loves us unconditionally, why must we be changed in order to live with Him?


Atheism to the rescue!!!


Not making claims. Just asking questions.


Questions that I'll bet no one can answered. Skeptical is the way of the future. :c

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Cuddlebuns wrote:


digs wrote:

We can't "earn" our forgiveness. That would be us justifying our sins and basically forgiving ourselves. Forgiveness is free, but to be forgiven one must repent and have faith, Repentance isn't saying sorry and then doing what you want, repentance is saying sorry and turning from your sins because you know that they are evil. Repentance is a heart change, not a ritual.


But it's still doing something to earn his approval, which is appeasement, which is what a lot of of other religions do and what you said Christians don't have to do.


You make sense, but it depends on how you define appeasement. In Christianity, your good works do not forgive you of your sins. God forgives by the heart, and not by what you do on the outside. And if you repent in your heart, then you are forgiven. In a way you could call it appeasement, but it isn't physical either.
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Kanone wrote:


leviathan343 wrote:


Kanone wrote:


leviathan343 wrote:

Why can a human love another human for their essential being, but God cannot?

If God loves us unconditionally, why must we be changed in order to live with Him?


Atheism to the rescue!!!


Not making claims. Just asking questions.


Questions that I'll bet no one can answered. Skeptical is the way of the future. :c



There will be answers (there are always answers to this stuff). Whether they make sense will be the issue.
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Posted 9/20/08
"faith is believing in something with no proof" cant remeber who said that. well ya faith i guess in a sense brings forth religion. The 10 commandments and other things jesus "said", you cant really find alot of christians who follow all the 10 coomandments and rules set by the bible. Like that 10% donations thingy. and turning the other cheek.
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