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Posted 4/26/08

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As for Anthony and Lyfe, they BOTH get on my nerves!




ur such a loser !
are you sure youre a singer...? i understand some ppl dont like lyfe voice but Anthony Hamilton....... r u serious


Well EXCUSE ME if I don't like what everybody else likes . Anthony voice annoys me. At times he's good, but sometimes I hear voice strains and that's when I know his voice is sore. Overall his voice is raggety and I wish he'd sing songs straight through for once...which is rare. It's like Mariah Carey. She has a good voice, but on some of her records, even her early ones, her voice is definitly sore and out of pitch. Ex. The beginning to "Vision of Love" before she actually sings. The people in the studio that day must have worked her, because her voice was sore and that one note that she sings straight through that part was not clear.
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R&b aint dead yet i guess the style changed a bit... the ballads back then were u knoe a bit softer and made u feel good inside now they talkin about more graphic shyt!!!! For instance Bed hmmm that songs really nice to listen 2 when u wit that one lol. Falsetto another song. R&b is iight now.
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R&B artists who haven't been corrupted yet. I'll add as I go and everybody tell me what you think...
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R&B IS NOT DEAD!!!!! Let me break it down for y'all. Beyonce, Ne-Yo and all them cats are POP! Yes, Pop. Let me tell you why. R&B beats now are beats you usually hear in Rap which means they can't compete unless they're singin a hook on a rapper's song or if they have a Rap bet with it. Rap is obviously mainstream and popular, but it's still classified as Rap. "Comtemporary R&B," as it's dubbed sometimes, has to have rap beats to stay in the game. it's Pop. Plus Timberand's beats sound the same now and caters-sounds-IS Pop anyway unlike the days where he was with Magoo, Aaliyah, Missy, and the gang.

For Male R&B artists, it's hard to compete because in the music industry. There's the impression that their only needs to be one male R&B singer dominating the genre while the ohers sit back and wait again to get their shine again, which may never happen. Haven't you notice one male artist comes in for a second and then BOOM, another male artists comes and takes their spot. Example: Lyfe came with his first single and then he was moved from the spotlight because Trey Songz came with his first single. Trey Songz enjoyed being in the spotlight for two singles until Ne-Yo came and he's been dominating the game every since.

With female R&B artists, they need a Rap beat and no clothes on to compete and there can be five of them at the same time. No matter what, Beyonce is still going to be on top until she retires-yes she said she wanted to retire at 30 or if Rihanna comes and takes her spot which she may since Rihanna is 18 and new fresh meat. All her beats are Pop anyway, especially this latest single, "Don't Stop The Music," taking Michael Jackson's "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" which as sampled from another song, but nontheless, Michael Jackson solo career was Pop music...maybe except Invisible. That song he sampled from was probably because I don't know, is Pop too.

When artists like KEM, India Arie, Angie Stone and such come out, they're music is considered Neo-Soul R&B or Adult Comtemporary R&B which is stupid because it's R&B no matter what and we, the young generation can relate to their music as well as we can relate to Ashanti's music (using Ashanti is kind of a bad example I know, but you get the point).

In conclusion, I don't think R&B is dead, it's just classified differently. Check out the music setions in each store you go to and see how they classify the music. Every store does it differently and so does every online store and these music lables, Billboard charts, etc. Phew!




You are 100% right about the pop-R&B connection.... tho im not TOTALLY sure about soul & R&B being the same.... im sure there are some distinct differences, just like hip hop & rap are apart of the same basic genre but they have distinct differences.... its mostly related to subject matter

but i have seen the different classifications on online music stores..... but the root classification is R&B/Soul, then the branch offs begin



I thought Hip Hop is a "umbrella term" for the culture of Rap music...idk if R&B fits into that???
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Posted 11/21/08

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Polaris7 wrote:

R&B IS NOT DEAD!!!!! Let me break it down for y'all. Beyonce, Ne-Yo and all them cats are POP! Yes, Pop. Let me tell you why. R&B beats now are beats you usually hear in Rap which means they can't compete unless they're singin a hook on a rapper's song or if they have a Rap bet with it. Rap is obviously mainstream and popular, but it's still classified as Rap. "Comtemporary R&B," as it's dubbed sometimes, has to have rap beats to stay in the game. it's Pop. Plus Timberand's beats sound the same now and caters-sounds-IS Pop anyway unlike the days where he was with Magoo, Aaliyah, Missy, and the gang.

For Male R&B artists, it's hard to compete because in the music industry. There's the impression that their only needs to be one male R&B singer dominating the genre while the ohers sit back and wait again to get their shine again, which may never happen. Haven't you notice one male artist comes in for a second and then BOOM, another male artists comes and takes their spot. Example: Lyfe came with his first single and then he was moved from the spotlight because Trey Songz came with his first single. Trey Songz enjoyed being in the spotlight for two singles until Ne-Yo came and he's been dominating the game every since.

With female R&B artists, they need a Rap beat and no clothes on to compete and there can be five of them at the same time. No matter what, Beyonce is still going to be on top until she retires-yes she said she wanted to retire at 30 or if Rihanna comes and takes her spot which she may since Rihanna is 18 and new fresh meat. All her beats are Pop anyway, especially this latest single, "Don't Stop The Music," taking Michael Jackson's "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" which as sampled from another song, but nontheless, Michael Jackson solo career was Pop music...maybe except Invisible. That song he sampled from was probably because I don't know, is Pop too.

When artists like KEM, India Arie, Angie Stone and such come out, they're music is considered Neo-Soul R&B or Adult Comtemporary R&B which is stupid because it's R&B no matter what and we, the young generation can relate to their music as well as we can relate to Ashanti's music (using Ashanti is kind of a bad example I know, but you get the point).

In conclusion, I don't think R&B is dead, it's just classified differently. Check out the music setions in each store you go to and see how they classify the music. Every store does it differently and so does every online store and these music lables, Billboard charts, etc. Phew!




You are 100% right about the pop-R&B connection.... tho im not TOTALLY sure about soul & R&B being the same.... im sure there are some distinct differences, just like hip hop & rap are apart of the same basic genre but they have distinct differences.... its mostly related to subject matter

but i have seen the different classifications on online music stores..... but the root classification is R&B/Soul, then the branch offs begin



I thought Hip Hop is a "umbrella term" for the culture of Rap music...idk if R&B fits into that???


rap is not a culture hip hop is... and it is the umbrella term when discussing rap and other stuff

idk what ur getting at about R&B... question is unclear
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T-Pain is legit... fuck all the haterz... ppl are hatin on T-pain just cuz the nigga is different, he has decent lyrical content, his beats bang, and he is on fire and he got the biggest names in hip hop jockin his style... He may not sing as good as Usher or Brian Mcknight but he still wrecks.

Thr33 Ringz is has solid material on it... Ringleader man is Nice... and when i first heard the album... i thought it was gonna suck... not the case - AND not to even mention Chopped n Skrewed... that song is FIRE

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T-Pain is legit... fuck all the haterz... ppl are hatin on T-pain just cuz the nigga is different, he has decent lyrical content, his beats bang, and he is on fire and he got the biggest names in hip hop jockin his style... He may not sing as good as Usher or Brian Mcknight but he still wrecks.

Thr33 Ringz is has solid material on it... Ringleader man is Nice... and when i first heard the album... i thought it was gonna suck... not the case - AND not to even mention Chopped n Skrewed... that song is FIRE


Hell yea t pains a beast my favorite song is theropy "1 2 3 4 get the hell up out my door 5 6 7 8 I dnt need yo sex I'll masterbat 9 10 11 12 u kan go 2 hell all I care" dats my shit lol
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hhmm seems to me R&B is on a life line right now, lots of songs are sounding the same. I love you, I love u baby, do you love me, loving you. all that..... i mean come'on i know R&B is about love and stuff, but u can sing about something else
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but u also hav 2 realize....ppl joke about men who sing about heartache n watnot its not "hard" so every1 talks about money cars n stuff so they look cool n get majority of the fans
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