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A theory states that people only use about 10% of our brain. What happens if we reach 100%?


this is a myth. We use all of our brain. This myth probably came from the fact that only 10% of the cells in our brains are neurons. The rest of them are glial cells. But the point is, ALL of the brain is in use.


Well what about the theory that we dont percieve all of hte information that goes into our brain? we r only aware of a certain percentage of the stuff we sense.We r never aware of 100% of our enviroment at one time...and we cant use all of our brain at one time...like the left and right side...


The reason we aren't aware of 100% of our environment is because a part of our brain actively decides to filter it out (the thalamus to be specific). And i assure you, we can use both sides of our brain at the same time. In fact, thats the reason i can read your post and laugh at the same time. I know several textbooks and a neuroscience prof who will confirm that we do use all our our brain.


well, have u ever wandered up we r filtering out? how can our brian decide whats important or not? (i have provided a few documents also in my 1st post) i know this is a little off topic- it goes into the quatom physics theory peace over war
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well, have u ever wandered up we r filtering out? how can our brian decide whats important or not? (i have provided a few documents also in my 1st post) i know this is a little off topic- it goes into the quatom physics theory peace over war


You know, i don't know how you think you can convince me of anything when your knowledge of basic human anatomy is so lacking. I also would really like to know how much you really understand quantum physics when u can't even spell 'quantom'.

To answer your question, we DO know what the thalamus filters out. It's called thalamic syndrome - basically your thalamus doesn't work and nothing gets filtered out and you see and feel everything. You are constantly tormented by every little sound or feeling you can sense, without ever being able to block it out. Its extrodinarily painful. Some say its a fate worse than death.
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well, have u ever wandered up we r filtering out? how can our brian decide whats important or not? (i have provided a few documents also in my 1st post) i know this is a little off topic- it goes into the quatom physics theory peace over war


Our brains aren't screwing us over if that's what you're asking. We don't need to hear a rock falling from miles away like large cats and predators, or see a rabbit from miles away like eagles and falcons. Thanks to millions of years of evolution, our brain is geared towards thinking.

As for filtering, we don't need to see the world in a million frames per second either.

Quantum Physics is a branch of physics that studies the mechanical workings of the universe at an atomic and sub-atomic scale. It's not a scientific theory or a layman's theory...and it has nothing to do with ESP.



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To answer your question, we DO know what the thalamus filters out. It's called thalamic syndrome - basically your thalamus doesn't work and nothing gets filtered out and you see and feel everything. You are constantly tormented by every little sound or feeling you can sense, without ever being able to block it out. Its extrodinarily painful. Some say its a fate worse than death.


Aye, I believe many schizophrenics suffer from this disorder.

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JJT2 wrote:

A theory states that people only use about 10% of our brain. What happens if we reach 100%?


this is a myth. We use all of our brain. This myth probably came from the fact that only 10% of the cells in our brains are neurons. The rest of them are glial cells. But the point is, ALL of the brain is in use.


Well what about the theory that we dont percieve all of hte information that goes into our brain? we r only aware of a certain percentage of the stuff we sense.We r never aware of 100% of our enviroment at one time...and we cant use all of our brain at one time...like the left and right side...


Only a certain part of our brain regulates sensors. It is impossible for any creature to be 100% aware of its environment. Flys, for example, have thousands of eyes, giving it a nearly 360 degree of vision...and even it isn't 100% aware of its environment.

Other parts of the brain is what controls our non-automatic responses such as heartbeat, breathing, circulation, etc. Other parts of the brain also regulates memory, the thought process, emotions/mood, bodily functions, etc

As pathogenesis said, we use 100% of our brain. Every part of our brain already has an important function...we can't just turn off a certain part of our brain and use it for something else.


Also, I'd like to note, that the first post is erroneous. Scientists and sociologists do not accept ESP as some form of psychic powers or such. There are some who accept the possibility of people having a 6th sense (other than sight, sound, touch, taste, smell) but that's totally different from saying ESP is telekinesis or such.
a 6th sense IS extra sensory perception...i said telekinesis is an extreme form of it...ne extra sense is considered ESP.Maybe telekinesis doesnt exists, but a 6th sense might peace over war

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well, have u ever wandered up we r filtering out? how can our brian decide whats important or not? (i have provided a few documents also in my 1st post) i know this is a little off topic- it goes into the quatom physics theory peace over war


You know, i don't know how you think you can convince me of anything when your knowledge of basic human anatomy is so lacking. I also would really like to know how much you really understand quantum physics when u can't even spell 'quantom'.

To answer your question, we DO know what the thalamus filters out. It's called thalamic syndrome - basically your thalamus doesn't work and nothing gets filtered out and you see and feel everything. You are constantly tormented by every little sound or feeling you can sense, without ever being able to block it out. Its extrodinarily painful. Some say its a fate worse than death.


But what if wut we percieve was never really there to begin with? How can we prove our existence outside of the brain's actions? peace over war
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a 6th sense IS extra sensory perception...i said telekinesis is an extreme form of it...ne extra sense is considered ESP.Maybe telekinesis doesnt exists, but a 6th sense might peace over war

Well, this post lost credibility when you started saying we use only 10% of our brains, and that if we could use 'more of our brain' we'd have a 6th sense. Your statement regarding brain filtering didn't help much either.


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But what if wut we percieve was never really there to begin with? How can we prove our existence outside of the brain's actions? peace over war


If you're going to say that we live in a Matrix-like world or a reality of sensory deception, then having a 6th sense is the last thing we should be concerned about.
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a 6th sense IS extra sensory perception...i said telekinesis is an extreme form of it...ne extra sense is considered ESP.Maybe telekinesis doesnt exists, but a 6th sense might peace over war

Well, this post lost credibility when you started saying we use only 10% of our brains, and that if we could use 'more of our brain' we'd have a 6th sense. Your statement regarding brain filtering didn't help much either.


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But what if wut we percieve was never really there to begin with? How can we prove our existence outside of the brain's actions? peace over war


If you're going to say that we live in a Matrix-like world or a reality of sensory deception, then having a 6th sense is the last thing we should be concerned about.


im just saying it could be alll connected...ki, ESP, Quatom physics...think about, we only know what our brain tells us. Im not saying we live in a false realality...im saying there is that possiblility.Do possibilities exisit? IS that a possiblilty? is it a probabily? maybe i should combine all my topics to one big theme...but u havnt answered the question...can u define your reality without input from your brain? peace over war (never think in a straight line, always think outside the box)
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im just saying it could be alll connected...ki, ESP, Quatom physics...think about, we only know what our brain tells us. Im not saying we live in a false realality...im saying there is that possiblility.Do possibilities exisit? IS that a possiblilty? is it a probabily? maybe i should combine all my topics to one big theme...but u havnt answered the question...can u define your reality without input from your brain? peace over war (never think in a straight line, always think outside the box)

There is a possibility that tomorrow, we will all be destroyed by a doughnut shaped purple meteorite. There is a possibility that in 10 years, humanity will be destroyed by an army of giant red ants genetically engineered by penguins in Hawaii.

This is called statistical probability. Anything and everything has a possibility. Given enough time, an army of monkeys with typewriters will create the complete works of Shakespeare.

Of course, the problem is, some of these possibilities (namely the ones you stated and the ones I listed above) borders on being totally ridiculous.

And no, Ki is not connected to Quantum Physics...you're looking for connections that aren't there.
Quantum Physics is the study of the mechanical workings of nature on an atomic and subatomic level.

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wouldn't some of that be just called intuition like its easy to predict things like tests because based on the teacher's way of thinking you can easily feel what day a test is on if you know patterns
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im just saying it could be alll connected...ki, ESP, Quatom physics...think about, we only know what our brain tells us. Im not saying we live in a false realality...im saying there is that possiblility.Do possibilities exisit? IS that a possiblilty? is it a probabily? maybe i should combine all my topics to one big theme...but u havnt answered the question...can u define your reality without input from your brain? peace over war (never think in a straight line, always think outside the box)

There is a possibility that tomorrow, we will all be destroyed by a doughnut shaped purple meteorite. There is a possibility that in 10 years, humanity will be destroyed by an army of giant red ants genetically engineered by penguins in Hawaii.

This is called statistical probability. Anything and everything has a possibility. Given enough time, an army of monkeys with typewriters will create the complete works of Shakespeare.

Of course, the problem is, some of these possibilities (namely the ones you stated and the ones I listed above) borders on being totally ridiculous.

And no, Ki is not connected to Quantum Physics...you're looking for connections that aren't there.
Quantum Physics is the study of the mechanical workings of nature on an atomic and subatomic level.



what about the possibilities of things that have been proven immposible? r u saying they r possible as well?and what about life after death? r u claiming probability in that? and if u r, will that be pervieving things outside of the brain? What is a soul as a religious term to a scientist?What is the difference between the brain and soul based on the probabilty they both exists? enlighten me, because im confusing myself peace over war
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There is a possibility that tomorrow, we will all be destroyed by a doughnut shaped purple meteorite. There is a possibility that in 10 years, humanity will be destroyed by an army of giant red ants genetically engineered by penguins in Hawaii.
This is called statistical probability. Anything and everything has a possibility. Given enough time, an army of monkeys with typewriters will create the complete works of Shakespeare.
Of course, the problem is, some of these possibilities (namely the ones you stated and the ones I listed above) borders on being totally ridiculous.
And no, Ki is not connected to Quantum Physics...you're looking for connections that aren't there.
Quantum Physics is the study of the mechanical workings of nature on an atomic and subatomic level.

what about the possibilities of things that have been proven immposible? r u saying they r possible as well?and what about life after death? r u claiming probability in that? and if u r, will that be pervieving things outside of the brain? What is a soul as a religious term to a scientist?What is the difference between the brain and soul based on the probabilty they both exists? enlighten me, because im confusing myself peace over war


What has been proven impossible? When someone says something is impossible, the person is actually saying that the chance of it happening is so statistically small that it is considered impossible.

ie. When you say that falling from a 100 story building and surviving is impossible. Well, people have survived higher falls than that from airplanes, so it is not impossible. (thanks to terminal velocity) The chance of survival is just statistically extremely small.

Life after death and souls - that goes into religion and spirituality. You're going outside the realm of science at this point.

Humanity knows nothing about souls, life after death, etc - the religious doctrines that claim whatever are just mere speculation.
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There is a possibility that tomorrow, we will all be destroyed by a doughnut shaped purple meteorite. There is a possibility that in 10 years, humanity will be destroyed by an army of giant red ants genetically engineered by penguins in Hawaii.
This is called statistical probability. Anything and everything has a possibility. Given enough time, an army of monkeys with typewriters will create the complete works of Shakespeare.
Of course, the problem is, some of these possibilities (namely the ones you stated and the ones I listed above) borders on being totally ridiculous.
And no, Ki is not connected to Quantum Physics...you're looking for connections that aren't there.
Quantum Physics is the study of the mechanical workings of nature on an atomic and subatomic level.

what about the possibilities of things that have been proven immposible? r u saying they r possible as well?and what about life after death? r u claiming probability in that? and if u r, will that be pervieving things outside of the brain? What is a soul as a religious term to a scientist?What is the difference between the brain and soul based on the probabilty they both exists? enlighten me, because im confusing myself peace over war


What has been proven impossible? When someone says something is impossible, the person is actually saying that the chance of it happening is so statistically small that it is considered impossible.

ie. When you say that falling from a 100 story building and surviving is impossible. Well, people have survived higher falls than that from airplanes, so it is not impossible. (thanks to terminal velocity) The chance of survival is just statistically extremely small.

Life after death and souls - that goes into religion and spirituality. You're going outside the realm of science at this point.

Humanity knows nothing about souls, life after death, etc - the religious doctrines that claim whatever are just mere speculation.

i guess i see your point...so if everything has a possibilty and probabilty- what about people flying? and what about the prabaility and possobility of religion? it may be outside the relm of science, but u claim everything has a possibility/ proabaility.Some things have got to be proven immposible right? What is immposible? r u saying such a thing does not exist?and if nothing is immposible, what is possible?
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I CAN SHOOT FIRE WITH MY MIND.
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i guess i see your point...so if everything has a possibilty and probabilty- what about people flying? and what about the prabaility and possobility of religion? it may be outside the relm of science, but u claim everything has a possibility/ proabaility.Some things have got to be proven immposible right? What is immposible? r u saying such a thing does not exist?and if nothing is immposible, what is possible?


If humans developed wings (natural evolution - unlikely, or crazy genetic engineering) and they weighed less than they do today, and developed an extra portion of their brain to regulate flight...then yeh it's possible...but highly unlikely. Same goes for ESP...unless a million years from now humans develop echolocation or infrared vision or something...

So pretty much anything is possible...given enough time.

As for impossible - the only thing I can think of is something that directly violates the laws of nature.
ie. Divine intervention or such
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well ill not be surprise if that exist...since i can move my toy up and down without using my hands only with my mind LOOOOOL IM KIDDING
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