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Posted 9/25/08

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In mass; the claymore and zweihander are larger.



umm....huh, how is that?


That in those pictures is not a zanbato.



THIS is a zanbato.


yes that is a zanbato but not the orignal it a remake on it i acual have on of those rite behind my door


What are you talking about?
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Posted 9/25/08

zad08 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


zad08 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


In mass; the claymore and zweihander are larger.



umm....huh, how is that?


That in those pictures is not a zanbato.



THIS is a zanbato.


yes that is a zanbato but not the orignal it a remake on it i acual have on of those rite behind my door


That is a zanbatō, the picture you have zad is an anime version. Actually that picture is of a Bleach cosplay prop.

This is a REAL zanbatō:

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Posted 9/25/08

silverfizz wrote:


zad08 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


zad08 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


In mass; the claymore and zweihander are larger.



umm....huh, how is that?


That in those pictures is not a zanbato.



THIS is a zanbato.


yes that is a zanbato but not the orignal it a remake on it i acual have on of those rite behind my door


That is a zanbatō, the picture you have zad is an anime version. Actually that picture is of a Bleach cosplay prop.

This is a REAL zanbatō:



Not quite.
That was a nodachi.
A zanbato has an unsharpened "ricasso" and is based off a Chinese weapon called a changtao.

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Posted 9/25/08

Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


silverfizz wrote:


zad08 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


zad08 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


In mass; the claymore and zweihander are larger.



umm....huh, how is that?


That in those pictures is not a zanbato.



THIS is a zanbato.


yes that is a zanbato but not the orignal it a remake on it i acual have on of those rite behind my door


That is a zanbatō, the picture you have zad is an anime version. Actually that picture is of a Bleach cosplay prop.

This is a REAL zanbatō:



Not quite.
That was a nodachi.
A zanbato has an unsharpened "ricasso" and is based off a Chinese weapon called a changtao.



It was the closest I could find.. in my pictures.
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Posted 9/25/08
idk, well i have heard of there being diferent kinds. the katana based one and the other one
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Oh yeah. That's understandable. The only picture I could find was that one. haha
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umm... that would be the "Zanbato " which is an ancient Japanese sword that was used to take down both horse and rider at the same time. but it was never really used because it was to heavy for normal men to carry around, much less swing. i have seen a picture of one but i don't recall were and cant seem to find one on the internet.

truthfully i have always wanted one my self and tried looking for one but people think that, that is just crazy to want something that big. but i don't care what they think. i still wish to get one and grasp it in my hands one day, and laugh at there remarks when i master it.


I will be cheering for you zad Hey guys check out these sites and tell what you think about it. It deals with what we are talking about.






The famed 2500-year-old Sword of Gou ..., ice do you know if this pic is real or not?
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Posted 9/27/08

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zad08 wrote:

umm... that would be the "Zanbato " which is an ancient Japanese sword that was used to take down both horse and rider at the same time. but it was never really used because it was to heavy for normal men to carry around, much less swing. i have seen a picture of one but i don't recall were and cant seem to find one on the internet.

truthfully i have always wanted one my self and tried looking for one but people think that, that is just crazy to want something that big. but i don't care what they think. i still wish to get one and grasp it in my hands one day, and laugh at there remarks when i master it.


I will be cheering for you zad Hey guys check out these sites and tell what you think about it. It deals with what we are talking about.






The famed 2500-year-old Sword of Gou ..., ice do you know if this pic is real or not?


the gou is a chinese sword just looking at it. i dont know what ice has to say but it does look authentec. i dont know if its realy 2500yearsold though i dont think it could last that long unless it was airtite siled somehow
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Posted 9/27/08 , edited 9/27/08

Raze22 wrote:


zad08 wrote:

umm... that would be the "Zanbato " which is an ancient Japanese sword that was used to take down both horse and rider at the same time. but it was never really used because it was to heavy for normal men to carry around, much less swing. i have seen a picture of one but i don't recall were and cant seem to find one on the internet.

truthfully i have always wanted one my self and tried looking for one but people think that, that is just crazy to want something that big. but i don't care what they think. i still wish to get one and grasp it in my hands one day, and laugh at there remarks when i master it.


I will be cheering for you zad Hey guys check out these sites and tell what you think about it. It deals with what we are talking about.






The famed 2500-year-old Sword of Gou ..., ice do you know if this pic is real or not?


I can tell you about the second picture with the old man sitting with the sword. The sword is called a Bāguàdāo. It is a real sword; however, the one pictured is not one that could actually kill you. It is a demonstration sword used in wushu competitions. The guy pictured is Xie Pei Qi who teaches a martial art(this is kinda questionable) called baguazhang in China.

The Sword of Goujian is the real deal. The sword is NOT on display but is in the possession of the Hubei Museum, in their archives division. It is what China calls a level one artifact....level one artifacts are not on display to the public and requires very heavy credentials to even see the sword. Level one artifacts are also considered National Treasures. Carbon dating traced the sword at either 2500-2600 years old and is the oldest known sword in China. The sword can cut a stack of 20 pieces of paper with ease. The swords main composition is cooper, making it resistant to shattering. To answer the post above the scabbard actually did create an airtight seal on the sword preserving it. It is also to some peoples interest in the design there is actually crystals in the grove work. I can tell you more about the excavation if you really want, I had the privilege of attending a symposium on archeological digs in China once and we learned about many digs in China's past.

I have no clue about the other pictures because my area of study is Asia not Europe.
Posted 9/27/08


I can tell you about the second picture with the old man sitting with the sword. The sword is called a Bāguàdāo. It is a real sword; however, the one pictured is not one that could actually kill you. It is a demonstration sword used in wushu competitions. The guy pictured is Xie Pei Qi who teaches a martial art(this is kinda questionable) called baguazhang in China.

The Sword of Goujian is the real deal. The sword is NOT on display but is in the possession of the Hubei Museum, in their archives division. It is what China calls a level one artifact....level one artifacts are not on display to the public and requires very heavy credentials to even see the sword. Level one artifacts are also considered National Treasures. Carbon dating traced the sword at either 2500-2600 years old and is the oldest known sword in China. The sword can cut a stack of 20 pieces of paper with ease. The swords main composition is cooper, making it resistant to shattering. To answer the post above the scabbard actually did create an airtight seal on the sword preserving it. It is also to some peoples interest in the design there is actually crystals in the grove work. I can tell you more about the excavation if you really want, I had the privilege of attending a symposium on archeological digs in China once and we learned about many digs in China's past.

I have no clue about the other pictures because my area of study is Asia not Europe.


Oh yes mam please tell more, about the excavation Was goujian like a ancient hero, how was it made, is copper the best choice of metal since it doesn't shatter, should katanas be made as copper, how big is it looks huge in pic, what do you mean by credential, and etc...



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I can tell you about the second picture with the old man sitting with the sword. The sword is called a Bāguàdāo. It is a real sword; however, the one pictured is not one that could actually kill you. It is a demonstration sword used in wushu competitions. The guy pictured is Xie Pei Qi who teaches a martial art(this is kinda questionable) called baguazhang in China.

The Sword of Goujian is the real deal. The sword is NOT on display but is in the possession of the Hubei Museum, in their archives division. It is what China calls a level one artifact....level one artifacts are not on display to the public and requires very heavy credentials to even see the sword. Level one artifacts are also considered National Treasures. Carbon dating traced the sword at either 2500-2600 years old and is the oldest known sword in China. The sword can cut a stack of 20 pieces of paper with ease. The swords main composition is cooper, making it resistant to shattering. To answer the post above the scabbard actually did create an airtight seal on the sword preserving it. It is also to some peoples interest in the design there is actually crystals in the grove work. I can tell you more about the excavation if you really want, I had the privilege of attending a symposium on archeological digs in China once and we learned about many digs in China's past.

I have no clue about the other pictures because my area of study is Asia not Europe.


Oh yes mam please tell more, about the excavation Was goujian like a ancient hero, how was it made, is copper the best choice of metal since it doesn't shatter, should katanas be made as copper, how big is it looks huge in pic, what do you mean by credential, and etc...





Goujian was also known as the King of Yue. The sword was for his personal use. The excavation took place in 1965. It was found in one of about 50 tombs that were left behind. Found in tomb one the sword was found with other artifacts that had been sumberded in water from the nearby ancient aqueduct. The sword was found sheathed in a wooden black lacquer scabbard, next to a skeleton in a casket. The skeleton is widely beleived to be that of the King of Yue. It is also believed that the sword was created by OuYezi, he was a really famous swordmaker of ancient China. This sword was also found to be possibly casted first, which is unheard of in the time period; however, recent studies of the sword as well as some surviving texts suggest that OuYezi may have casted most of his sword first. The edge has more tin than in the rest of the sword which may support this claim(I am not sure since I don't understand metallurgy that much). Also I checked you can now see this sword.........It went on display about three years ago. I didn't know, but it is in the Hubei Museum which hold a great deal of artifacts from the Chu and Waring States Period. When I went there last it was not on display, but China has changed dramatically since I have been there last. Over two thousand other artifacts were found, including beautiful pottery, and other weapons.

Here's a picture before it was partially restored:

Posted 9/27/08
omg, this sword is awesome. It looks like the biggest real sword I have ever seen. How heavy is it?
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omg, this sword is awesome. It looks like the biggest real sword I have ever seen. How heavy is it?


I don't know I wasn't allowed to touch it. I only photographed it for the Smithsonian Archives. There were three armed soldiers there that made sure I didn't touch it. A curators aide moved it when needed.
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Posted 9/28/08
awsome. that looks exacly like the sowd that i saw in the movie redcliff.
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Looking through this thread and with all those pics....i'm just constantly like O.O WOAAH.....*with gaping mouth* I've always loved swords because of their elegance and after reading all these...I'm so much more in love with swords!
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