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Posted 5/15/08

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china rocks my socks YAY!!!


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China is just making up for the times lost of not modernizing itself. Personally, I think China, 5 years or more from now would be the world's superpower. It's obvious they have this tight schedule to get things done and over with, like I said, making up for the time they lost. They're the fastest industrializing country in the world. It was only about 1940's that they really started to modernize their country and culture, and to change age-old traditions and ruling. Just more than a half century ago, and look at them now... Although, their means of production and the way they extort labor is a bit... extreme (?). I think when everything has reached a plateau, the government would start to think more of its people. I know for a fact that China has the oldest people and upholds continuous 'ancient' civilizations dating 6 millennia ago. (T.T") personally, Chinese history is one of the most interesting and fascinating pieces of world history. I mean, almost everything we use were from the Chinese people. Most of the food we eat were inspired by Chinese food. The ideas we have especially in military terms (The Art of War bu Sun Tzu)....China is just wow. Great philosophies, Confucianism, enough said.
Pollution, extortion, violence, and poverty, those are all stages. It will just take one great leader with loyal supporters to change all those. This applies to any other nation as well. U.S.A wouldn't be like this, if it wasn't for China granting their production. Practically almost everything comes from China. (T.T")


I totally agree with you. People always look at China as "The Communist" but they never notice the great accomplishments that China has done.



lets remember the thread isnt about china in general, its about communist china, thats why people are talking about communism

it isnt a thread about chinese culture

people are very aware that theres more to china than communism


China's communism shapes China's culture today so even when talking about politics, culture does matter.
I think that for such a large population, communism is ok to some extent. If you think about it, there are SO many people in China with SO many different opinions on things. There will always be conflicts no matter what, communist or not.

And seirously, America is pretty biased when it comes to China.


china is pretty biased when it comes to america also. that argument flies both ways. at least america doesnt have the same media restrictions though. also if they dont like what their government is doing they have the power to vote that government out.

when you talk about how communism shaped chinas culture are you choosing to forget the cultural revolution which saw so much of chinas cultural heritage destroyed?

also. much of the post you were referring to with regards to culture was referring to chinese culture which was developed PRIOR to communism over several thousand years

maybe you could talk about the cultural changes since communism that were for the better to back up your argument.


noone is saying china doesnt have a great cultural heritage in the arts, food, war strategy (funny this would be a positive, i think if it was american it would be a no-no). they are simply referring to communism, as in the thread title

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Posted 5/15/08

snottyenglishgirl wrote:


ohpooey wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:


ohpooey wrote:


geeene_16 wrote:

China is just making up for the times lost of not modernizing itself. Personally, I think China, 5 years or more from now would be the world's superpower. It's obvious they have this tight schedule to get things done and over with, like I said, making up for the time they lost. They're the fastest industrializing country in the world. It was only about 1940's that they really started to modernize their country and culture, and to change age-old traditions and ruling. Just more than a half century ago, and look at them now... Although, their means of production and the way they extort labor is a bit... extreme (?). I think when everything has reached a plateau, the government would start to think more of its people. I know for a fact that China has the oldest people and upholds continuous 'ancient' civilizations dating 6 millennia ago. (T.T") personally, Chinese history is one of the most interesting and fascinating pieces of world history. I mean, almost everything we use were from the Chinese people. Most of the food we eat were inspired by Chinese food. The ideas we have especially in military terms (The Art of War bu Sun Tzu)....China is just wow. Great philosophies, Confucianism, enough said.
Pollution, extortion, violence, and poverty, those are all stages. It will just take one great leader with loyal supporters to change all those. This applies to any other nation as well. U.S.A wouldn't be like this, if it wasn't for China granting their production. Practically almost everything comes from China. (T.T")


I totally agree with you. People always look at China as "The Communist" but they never notice the great accomplishments that China has done.



lets remember the thread isnt about china in general, its about communist china, thats why people are talking about communism

it isnt a thread about chinese culture

people are very aware that theres more to china than communism


China's communism shapes China's culture today so even when talking about politics, culture does matter.
I think that for such a large population, communism is ok to some extent. If you think about it, there are SO many people in China with SO many different opinions on things. There will always be conflicts no matter what, communist or not.

And seirously, America is pretty biased when it comes to China.


china is pretty biased when it comes to america also. that argument flies both ways. at least america doesnt have the same media restrictions though. also if they dont like what their government is doing they have the power to vote that government out.

when you talk about how communism shaped chinas culture are you choosing to forget the cultural revolution which saw so much of chinas cultural heritage destroyed?

also. much of the post you were referring to with regards to culture was referring to chinese culture which was developed PRIOR to communism over several thousand years

maybe you could talk about the cultural changes since communism that were for the better to back up your argument.


noone is saying china doesnt have a great cultural heritage in the arts, food, war strategy (funny this would be a positive, i think if it was american it would be a no-no). they are simply referring to communism, as in the thread title



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Posted 5/15/08 , edited 5/15/08

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Eudd wrote:


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Looks like me being the Chinese person around here I'll have to clear a few things up, so many misconceptions about China.

You ARE allowed to have more than one child just that you either have to pay a higher tax (according to my S.S teacher) or something like that. Many people in rural areas have multiple children and don't get fined.

YES we eat dog meat! Is that a problem? ITS MEAT. Cows are sacred to many people from india and yet you americans don't have a problem eating them by millions. Its called different cultures. Also just because i'm fucking chinese doesn't mean I'm going to steal your dog and eat it for christ sakes.

I am against the China's government policies but hell the U.S isn't that much better, nice job getting into a worthless war.


If your comeback to a few comments about dog meat which was said from someone not even in America is too trash talk America you failed. And stop eating man's best friend Humans have meat, No Doesn't mean you should eat it.


What? That was a general statement, it wasn't even directed at anyone specifically. It looks like a person failed at distinguishing the diversity of different cultures. Did he state that he eats dogs? Because I don't think I was experiencing any vertigo. Next time, think more than three times before you say something platitudinous. You need it.


First off was anyone speaking to you ? Secondly I was joking could you distinguish between seriousness and a laughing smiley. Guess not ! Don't quote me again if your comment is platitudinous. *Using big words doesn't mean your post is significant either*


Does it matter if you were speaking to me or not? Are you saying you have the authority to restrict my prerogatives? Secondly, I think jokes really fails in this topic since it CAN be considered racial humors. No, my comment was not platitudinous. Don't use words you're incapable of understanding.


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Pathetic post.

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I'd rather talk to someone who lives in China, because most of the information here is from students who just learned some crap in school and spit it out as if it's all true. Wonder what their grades all were
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Posted 5/15/08

ohpooey wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:

what bothers me are the chinese people who still beleive in communism and live by their beliefs, but who still think their government and leaders of industry and those who run their factories and big businesses are still communist themselves.

trust me, they live the capitalist high life and enjoy all of the benefits of capitalism while you live with communist restrictions.

(i know not all chinese people are blind to this)



But hey, that's when the culture differences come in.

Personally, I really don't know which way to go for. Communist good, or Communist bad?
I'm chinese but I was born in America.
I haven't once lived my life in communist China so I can't make any kind of assumption and other people shouldn't either.
We are learned what we are taught. But we should really learn through experience.

It really is up to each individual and how they prefer their lives.


but how much of a choice do you think the average chinese people has with regards to how they live their lives? will they get a chance to vote for change?

also i guess i just think that to beleive in a communist government, one should have a government which is, you know, communist

(also you need a government that believes its own sh*t and doesnt sell arms to dictators in other countries).

you are right that you learn what you are taught, hence the media and internet restrictions in china. restrict learning, and you wont have as much of a problem with the masses. what makes me really angry is that so many chinese people think the west hate 'them' (china as a whole), and i can only imagine that this is down to the media portrayal of the west. the west have nothing but good to say about chinese people on the whole in china, and if anything just worry about their well-being. i doubt though that this is how it is portrayed 'back home'. hence peoples hackles rising whenever a westerner dares critisize their government.
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I interviewed 20 Chinese people, (All from china). Ages ranging from 20~70. And I heard stories about Communist China that are unimaginable. From their view, China has lost most of its culture, the so called Government is biased and corrupted, and the people who suffer, as always are the common and poor. The Government, tries their best to destroy any spark of retaliation. If one person does something wrong, the whole family suffers. Its like they are treating their own people like slaves in fear. But when compared to the world, China isn't much different. The democratic countries are just as same, except they tend to manipulate its people in a way that their communist actions go undetected.
Posted 5/15/08

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Eudd wrote:
Does it matter if you were speaking to me or not? Are you saying you have the authority to restrict my prerogatives? Secondly, I think jokes really fails in this topic since it CAN be considered racial humors. No, my comment was not platitudinous. Don't use words you're incapable of understanding.



Yes it does matter if I'm speaking to you or not. Have you heard of something called minding your own business. Guess not. HAHA! Funny I'm not capable of understanding, I think I hold more knowledge then a 16 yr old when I'm what almost twice your age. So that was a useless remark. Anyways, I have better things to do then go back and forth with some guy who has pent up aggressions. Ha! I'm not into online battles I do my battles in the ring when I'm kickboxing.


It's pretty sad that your ignorance is incorrigible when you're twice my age. Note that this is a "forum", which means you can't restrict what I can do. It's basic common sense. How come you're incapable of understanding that induction? Also, you made no attempt at refuting my points.

Good luck 32 year old, good luck with your kick boxing.
Posted 5/15/08 , edited 5/15/08

keelo wrote:

Discuss anything related to this wonderful and ancient nation. I'll start it off. did you know that china has this one law that prohibits women from having more than one child


Really 0.o Wow..

Haha, all I know is, i watch the one Chinese channel I have when i can and watch Center Stage XD n sometimes the news.

BTW: Age is nothing but a number. I told off a 30 year old on here just a few days ago.

You can be an old geezer and STILL a loser ^^
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why the topic need to be 'Commnist China' when we can jus put 'Peoples Republic of china'
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Posted 5/25/08

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^thought that was japan...uh...did you know that in china, dogs are eaten?


wtf no~ we onl like a few ppl eat dogs

i heard that koreans eat dogs????( SRRY if i offended u)

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i like china but i dont like how its a communist. i feel bad for the people there. i just wish i could do something to help
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Posted 5/28/08

snottyenglishgirl wrote:


ohpooey wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:


ohpooey wrote:


geeene_16 wrote:

China is just making up for the times lost of not modernizing itself. Personally, I think China, 5 years or more from now would be the world's superpower. It's obvious they have this tight schedule to get things done and over with, like I said, making up for the time they lost. They're the fastest industrializing country in the world. It was only about 1940's that they really started to modernize their country and culture, and to change age-old traditions and ruling. Just more than a half century ago, and look at them now... Although, their means of production and the way they extort labor is a bit... extreme (?). I think when everything has reached a plateau, the government would start to think more of its people. I know for a fact that China has the oldest people and upholds continuous 'ancient' civilizations dating 6 millennia ago. (T.T") personally, Chinese history is one of the most interesting and fascinating pieces of world history. I mean, almost everything we use were from the Chinese people. Most of the food we eat were inspired by Chinese food. The ideas we have especially in military terms (The Art of War bu Sun Tzu)....China is just wow. Great philosophies, Confucianism, enough said.
Pollution, extortion, violence, and poverty, those are all stages. It will just take one great leader with loyal supporters to change all those. This applies to any other nation as well. U.S.A wouldn't be like this, if it wasn't for China granting their production. Practically almost everything comes from China. (T.T")


I totally agree with you. People always look at China as "The Communist" but they never notice the great accomplishments that China has done.



lets remember the thread isnt about china in general, its about communist china, thats why people are talking about communism

it isnt a thread about chinese culture

people are very aware that theres more to china than communism


China's communism shapes China's culture today so even when talking about politics, culture does matter.
I think that for such a large population, communism is ok to some extent. If you think about it, there are SO many people in China with SO many different opinions on things. There will always be conflicts no matter what, communist or not.

And seirously, America is pretty biased when it comes to China.


china is pretty biased when it comes to america also. that argument flies both ways. at least america doesnt have the same media restrictions though. also if they dont like what their government is doing they have the power to vote that government out.

when you talk about how communism shaped chinas culture are you choosing to forget the cultural revolution which saw so much of chinas cultural heritage destroyed?

also. much of the post you were referring to with regards to culture was referring to chinese culture which was developed PRIOR to communism over several thousand years

maybe you could talk about the cultural changes since communism that were for the better to back up your argument.


noone is saying china doesnt have a great cultural heritage in the arts, food, war strategy (funny this would be a positive, i think if it was american it would be a no-no). they are simply referring to communism, as in the thread title



American has some media restictions too, but they're more subtle. Like you can't post certain images from wars and the execution of saddam was supposed to censored. Also, China's not like hardcore communism either. It has an essentially capitalist economy. The cultural revolution did make some changes, but many areas kept their old beliefs. China's a big country and its tough to change all of it
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Posted 5/28/08

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i like china but i dont like how its a communist. i feel bad for the people there. i just wish i could do something to help


lol. I'm Chinese and its not so bad in China. I know theres a lot of stuff out there that says otherwise, but I've lived there and its really not as bad as ppl think it is. For the most part, we aren't "oppressed".
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