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Are Jews Still Loved By God?
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Posted 9/24/08

A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:

man i hate God.... dont ask me why but seriously i think he doesnt care about anything but himself and his will


and this is why atheist make me sick.people like you think god is to blame for the world as it is. he is not god gave us life and free will and you know hat we did with it we made weapons we sin we made a mocker of his religion and defyed him.look into the mirror and see the world as it is. a world that god tryed to stop.


im actually agnostinc, I'm still open to the posiblity that god may exist yet im not sure, i think he probably doesnt

"defy him" stands for literally not doing his will and no becoming phisically and mentally his slave, as for me i dont c a problem with gay ppl and believing what you want ... and i will always support that, so im going to hell

the point is that doing good things its not enough, kinda like hitler only that they discriminate againt ways of thinking..... i used to catholic but it was actually the bible who got me away from it

Posted 9/24/08

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Khemia wrote:

It is said that God loves everyone. And I'm getting tired of arguing about religion.


it is also said that god Condems idol worshinping.doesnt that mean he persecutes the religions who worship other gods


There is something called imperfect human acts which is defined by partial knowledge and will. One of the impairments of the required knowledge to be fully culpable is "Error" or wrong beliefs arising from deficient education, influence of bad company, reading of misleading books, papers, wrong influence of mass media, etc. So this answers your question. /thread?
Posted 9/24/08

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A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:

man i hate God.... dont ask me why but seriously i think he doesnt care about anything but himself and his will


and this is why atheist make me sick.people like you think god is to blame for the world as it is. he is not god gave us life and free will and you know hat we did with it we made weapons we sin we made a mocker of his religion and defyed him.look into the mirror and see the world as it is. a world that god tryed to stop.


Right just clear this up atheist do not believe in god and as such they can not hate what does not exist. Also, that would mean they would be unable to blame him for how the world turned out. You can't defy something that you refuse to believe exists. Get your info straight before you make a post.


but to believe something as non-exsistant youde have to atleast anknowledge it dont you.
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Posted 9/24/08

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Khemia wrote:

It is said that God loves everyone. And I'm getting tired of arguing about religion.


Everyone is.


So am I, but keeping a religion topic open will inevitably invite misconceptions. I post only to make sure things like that don't happen.
I think CR should start locking religion topics. I'd rather read about weirdos rape cars and have a good laugh than fatwas on Mickey Mouse and get depressed.
Posted 9/24/08

WrathOfCanis wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:

man i hate God.... dont ask me why but seriously i think he doesnt care about anything but himself and his will


and this is why atheist make me sick.people like you think god is to blame for the world as it is. he is not god gave us life and free will and you know hat we did with it we made weapons we sin we made a mocker of his religion and defyed him.look into the mirror and see the world as it is. a world that god tryed to stop.


im actually agnostinc, I'm still open to the posiblity that god may exist yet im not sure, i think he probably doesnt

"defy him" stands for literally not doing his will and no becoming phisically and mentally his slave, as for me i dont c a problem with gay ppl and believing what you want ... and i will always support that, so im going to hell

the point is that doing good things its not enough, kinda like hitler only that they discriminate againt ways of thinking..... i used to catholic but it was actually the bible who got me away from it


thats why you arent supposed to take the bible to litterally
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Posted 9/24/08

h4x0rz wrote:


zendude wrote:


Khemia wrote:

It is said that God loves everyone. And I'm getting tired of arguing about religion.


Everyone is.


So am I, but keeping a religion topic open will inevitably invite misconceptions. I post only to make sure things like that don't happen.
I think CR should start locking religion topics. I'd rather read about weirdos rape cars and have a good laugh than fatwas on Mickey Mouse and get depressed.


I did note that one on one of my first replies here on CR, but seeing the more threads like these, i assume that posting such threads aren't against CR rules, but i think they should place rules against threads concerning religion to prevent unnecessary arguments and debates.
Posted 9/24/08

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A_D_E25 wrote:


Khemia wrote:

It is said that God loves everyone. And I'm getting tired of arguing about religion.


it is also said that god Condems idol worshinping.doesnt that mean he persecutes the religions who worship other gods


There is something called imperfect human acts which is defined by partial knowledge and will. One of the impairments of the required knowledge to be fully culpable is "Error" or wrong beliefs arising from deficient education, influence of bad company, reading of misleading books, papers, wrong influence of mass media, etc. So this answers your question. /thread?


so what you saying a person why goes againts god will be saved. and witht hat logic a serial killer can be let into heaven.
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Posted 9/24/08

A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:

man i hate God.... dont ask me why but seriously i think he doesnt care about anything but himself and his will


and this is why atheist make me sick.people like you think god is to blame for the world as it is. he is not god gave us life and free will and you know hat we did with it we made weapons we sin we made a mocker of his religion and defyed him.look into the mirror and see the world as it is. a world that god tryed to stop.


im actually agnostinc, I'm still open to the posiblity that god may exist yet im not sure, i think he probably doesnt

"defy him" stands for literally not doing his will and no becoming phisically and mentally his slave, as for me i dont c a problem with gay ppl and believing what you want ... and i will always support that, so im going to hell

the point is that doing good things its not enough, kinda like hitler only that they discriminate againt ways of thinking..... i used to catholic but it was actually the bible who got me away from it


thats why you arent supposed to take the bible to litterally


so witch parts arent supposed to be taken literally and witch ones aren't?
ive seen this so many times....
Posted 9/24/08

WrathOfCanis wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:

man i hate God.... dont ask me why but seriously i think he doesnt care about anything but himself and his will


and this is why atheist make me sick.people like you think god is to blame for the world as it is. he is not god gave us life and free will and you know hat we did with it we made weapons we sin we made a mocker of his religion and defyed him.look into the mirror and see the world as it is. a world that god tryed to stop.


im actually agnostinc, I'm still open to the posiblity that god may exist yet im not sure, i think he probably doesnt

"defy him" stands for literally not doing his will and no becoming phisically and mentally his slave, as for me i dont c a problem with gay ppl and believing what you want ... and i will always support that, so im going to hell

the point is that doing good things its not enough, kinda like hitler only that they discriminate againt ways of thinking..... i used to catholic but it was actually the bible who got me away from it


thats why you arent supposed to take the bible to litterally


so witch parts arent supposed to be taken literally and witch ones aren't?
ive seen this so many times....


you know those parts where it says stone people and shun others and also try and convert yeah you go head and ignore. the bible is not a way of life but only as a guideline
Posted 9/24/08

A_D_E25 wrote:

so what you saying a person why goes againts god will be saved. and witht hat logic a serial killer can be let into heaven.


A person is not culpable because he was driven to the condition by other factors aside from his own. So yes he will be saved.


a serial killer can be let into heaven


Do not lead this to another topic.
Basically by Christianity everyone can be let into heaven as long as he repents on his sins and is forgiven.
Posted 9/24/08

Khemia wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:

so what you saying a person why goes againts god will be saved. and witht hat logic a serial killer can be let into heaven.


A person is not culpable because he was driven to the condition by other factors aside from his own. So yes he will be saved.


a serial killer can be let into heaven


Do not lead this to another topic.
Basically by Christianity everyone can be let into heaven as long as he repents on his sins and is forgiven.


so what youre getting at is that if go around breaking every law that god has set in place repeatedly and repent ill be saved. have you heard of the "unpardonable sin" the act of constanly defying god
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Posted 9/24/08

A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:

man i hate God.... dont ask me why but seriously i think he doesnt care about anything but himself and his will


and this is why atheist make me sick.people like you think god is to blame for the world as it is. he is not god gave us life and free will and you know hat we did with it we made weapons we sin we made a mocker of his religion and defyed him.look into the mirror and see the world as it is. a world that god tryed to stop.


im actually agnostinc, I'm still open to the posiblity that god may exist yet im not sure, i think he probably doesnt

"defy him" stands for literally not doing his will and no becoming phisically and mentally his slave, as for me i dont c a problem with gay ppl and believing what you want ... and i will always support that, so im going to hell

the point is that doing good things its not enough, kinda like hitler only that they discriminate againt ways of thinking..... i used to catholic but it was actually the bible who got me away from it


thats why you arent supposed to take the bible to litterally


so witch parts arent supposed to be taken literally and witch ones aren't?
ive seen this so many times....


you know those parts where it says stone people and shun others and also try and convert yeah you go head and ignore. the bible is not a way of life but only as a guideline


well some people believe in god but not on religions..... since i was very into catholic life as a child i realized that it was messed up when i was like 10, even the church is messed up, God its more ok than religions... i personally dont believe in neither but i dont consider that a fact... but thats another story

my grandparents are the kind of ppl who will take EVERYTHING in the bible to hard, so if they knew im not christian they will try to shove their beliefs down my throat to save me from hell, same for anyone whos gay, and well they will make hell out of my life so guess they will by making God's will true like "i love u but youre an atheist so yo going to hell forever".... that is basing all your life in a religion

Posted 9/24/08

WrathOfCanis wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:


A_D_E25 wrote:


WrathOfCanis wrote:

man i hate God.... dont ask me why but seriously i think he doesnt care about anything but himself and his will


and this is why atheist make me sick.people like you think god is to blame for the world as it is. he is not god gave us life and free will and you know hat we did with it we made weapons we sin we made a mocker of his religion and defyed him.look into the mirror and see the world as it is. a world that god tryed to stop.


im actually agnostinc, I'm still open to the posiblity that god may exist yet im not sure, i think he probably doesnt

"defy him" stands for literally not doing his will and no becoming phisically and mentally his slave, as for me i dont c a problem with gay ppl and believing what you want ... and i will always support that, so im going to hell

the point is that doing good things its not enough, kinda like hitler only that they discriminate againt ways of thinking..... i used to catholic but it was actually the bible who got me away from it


thats why you arent supposed to take the bible to litterally


so witch parts arent supposed to be taken literally and witch ones aren't?
ive seen this so many times....


you know those parts where it says stone people and shun others and also try and convert yeah you go head and ignore. the bible is not a way of life but only as a guideline


well some people believe in god but not on religions..... since i was very into catholic life as a child i realized that it was messed up when i was like 10, even the church is messed up, God its more ok than religions... i personally dont believe in neither but i dont consider that a fact... but thats another story

my grandparents are the kind of ppl who will take EVERYTHING in the bible to hard, so if they knew im not christian they will try to shove their beliefs down my throat to save me from hell, same for anyone whos gay, and well they will make hell out of my life so guess they will by making God's will true like "i love u but youre an atheist so yo going to hell forever".... that is basing all your life in a religion



exactly religion is decaying the world.belive god not the religion around him.
Posted 9/24/08

A_D_E25 wrote:

so what youre getting at is that if go around breaking every law that god has set in place repeatedly and repent ill be saved. have you heard of the "unpardonable sin" the act of constanly defying god


No that's just a stupid suggestion. You're misunderstanding every point I'm bringing up. You are culpable of committing a sin if it is performed with full knowledge and full consent of the will, try to understand this statement please. Constantly defying god means that you already know what human acts you are performing therefore aware that you are committing a sin. In my first statement before you lead this into another topic I stated that You are only inculpable if your actions arises from deficient education. By being repented you are educated meaning you already know that you committed a sin. Which means that after repenting and you commit another sin you are culpable.



I've lost track of the topic and I'm tired of religious arguments. Being forgiven gives us the right to enter heaven. God loves Jews.
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