This Bull is getting on my nerves about what faith is supposed to mean. It does have extreme meanings, as in it's either the christian definition or the atheistic definition, depending on who uses it. Christians, get yo bibles ready. Atheists, get your...uh....uh....nonbelieving books ready.

*Sits back to watch exploding arguements*

Faith is to believe in someone or something. For ex. I have faith that one day Jesus is going to take his Church to Heaven... which equals a rapture about to happen. Faith is believeing without seeing. Today man wants to see everything. They want to see it with there eyes. They want proof and they want facts. But....

John 20:24-29:

24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came.

25 So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."

26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!"

27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."

28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

29 Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Or:

Dictionary.com:

Faith- confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.

I have confidence and I trust in God. I have faith in him.
Alexandra (Alex)

Woah, rapture? I don't remember that in the bible, can you please cite it. And when you cite a verse i think you should summerize the point, there are people here who won't read bother reading verses.

Well I guess they should... the rapture is when Jesus comes once again to take his Church. The people who believed him that is in...

Matthew 24:30-36:

30 "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.

31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 "Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.

33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.

34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

And...

Acts 1:9-11

9 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them.

11 "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

And

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

The rapture as you see is when Jesus comes and descends down to earth to get those who believed in him. Bring them to Heaven and all those who are saved live in Heaven forever. The rapture is near and Jesus is coming soon. Any questions?

After the rapture there comes the seven years of tribulation and that is when the anti-christ who is going to come and bring "peace" to earth. With the devil on his side. The anti-christ is going to call himself God and is going to decieve many and many people. Almost the entire world. Since Jesus went back to Heaven there will be no more turning back. There will not be second chances for many. And many.

1 John 2:18:

18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

22 Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.

Faith, in the religious sense, is believing in something with little or no physical evidence (as in evidence that can be observed and verified by everybody, I don't know if there is a "technical" term for that) to support it. What else could it possibly mean when applied to religion?

this looks more like a combination of three verses, you know 'the fall of satan' was constructed the same way too you know. I'll like later but I bet that although out of context they sound great, that's not what the writers meant when they wrote each of those parts in their own contexts. Plus the first verse says we'll know when it comes, I'm not feeling it here. Give me some proof, like the changes on earth, that the end is near. No, December 2012 does not count.
Thessalonians 4:13-18. do you get that verse at all? Once I read the beginning of the verse, i didn't seem like they were talking about the rapture. You know if I wanted to I could pick a couple verses here and there and create my own message, this my friend is called misuse of the bible. The idea of the rapture was inspired by a christian fiction book called Raptured and latter again by the Left Behind series. Sorry, try again. Although I still think Thessalonians 4:13-18 still looks interesting, I ask my local priest about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture#Books

Yay, non-christian was on topic. My assumptions were correct, fundamentalists don't know how to answer anything unless it was from the bible.
person1: would you like deviled eggs with that?
person2: Oh heavens, may God save your soul. Convert now while you can!

Jesus Christ, if you're going to ask for the definition of faith, there's no point to this thread. There is no "christian definition" or "atheistic definition". Unless you mean definition as in, whatever the fuck you think it is, regardless of the actual definition.

1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1): fidelity to one's promises (2): sincerity of intentions
2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction ; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>

Thread done.

Is it just me, or is that Superchick31 a damn religious troll? God here, Jesus there. lol...

All I have to say to this ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvHpvHFXU0

it means hoping for something

it means to believe in something so strong that you know something can happen well in terms of god anyway

Faith :
1. is believing whether you see it or not.
2.trusting someone whatever happens

Faith means believing something contrary to logic,facts or adequate reason and hoping you will reap the benefits of it one day.