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What does the word "faith" mean to you
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Posted 9/29/08 , edited 9/29/08
This Bull is getting on my nerves about what faith is supposed to mean. It does have extreme meanings, as in it's either the christian definition or the atheistic definition, depending on who uses it. Christians, get yo bibles ready. Atheists, get your...uh....uh....nonbelieving books ready.

*Sits back to watch exploding arguements*
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Superchick31 wrote:

Faith is to believe in someone or something. For ex. I have faith that one day Jesus is going to take his Church to Heaven... which equals a rapture....

Woah, rapture? I don't remember that in the bible, can you please cite it. And when you cite a verse i think you should summerize the point, there are people here who won't read bother reading verses.
Posted 9/29/08 , edited 9/29/08

Well I guess they should... the rapture is when Jesus comes once again to take his Church. The people who believed him that is in...

Matthew 24:30-36:

30 "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.

31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 "Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.

33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.

34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

And...

Acts 1:9-11

9 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them.

11 "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

And

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

The rapture as you see is when Jesus comes and descends down to earth to get those who believed in him. Bring them to Heaven and all those who are saved live in Heaven forever. The rapture is near and Jesus is coming soon. Any questions?
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Faith, in the religious sense, is believing in something with little or no physical evidence (as in evidence that can be observed and verified by everybody, I don't know if there is a "technical" term for that) to support it. What else could it possibly mean when applied to religion?
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Superchick31 wrote:


Well I guess they should... the rapture is when Jesus comes once again to take his Church. The people who believed him that is in...

Matthew 24:30-36:

30 "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.

31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 "Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.

33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.

34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

And...

Acts 1:9-11

9 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them.

11 "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

And

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

The rapture as you see is when Jesus comes and descends down to earth to get those who believed in him. Bring them to Heaven and all those who are saved live in Heaven forever. The rapture is near and Jesus is coming soon. Any questions?


this looks more like a combination of three verses, you know 'the fall of satan' was constructed the same way too you know. I'll like later but I bet that although out of context they sound great, that's not what the writers meant when they wrote each of those parts in their own contexts. Plus the first verse says we'll know when it comes, I'm not feeling it here. Give me some proof, like the changes on earth, that the end is near. No, December 2012 does not count.
Thessalonians 4:13-18. do you get that verse at all? Once I read the beginning of the verse, i didn't seem like they were talking about the rapture. You know if I wanted to I could pick a couple verses here and there and create my own message, this my friend is called misuse of the bible. The idea of the rapture was inspired by a christian fiction book called Raptured and latter again by the Left Behind series. Sorry, try again. Although I still think Thessalonians 4:13-18 still looks interesting, I ask my local priest about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture#Books
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Cuddlebuns wrote:

Faith, in the religious sense, is believing in something with little or no physical evidence (as in evidence that can be observed and verified by everybody, I don't know if there is a "technical" term for that) to support it. What else could it possibly mean when applied to religion?


Yay, non-christian was on topic. My assumptions were correct, fundamentalists don't know how to answer anything unless it was from the bible.
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Jesus Christ, if you're going to ask for the definition of faith, there's no point to this thread. There is no "christian definition" or "atheistic definition". Unless you mean definition as in, whatever the fuck you think it is, regardless of the actual definition.

1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1): fidelity to one's promises (2): sincerity of intentions
2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction ; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>

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Posted 9/30/08
Is it just me, or is that Superchick31 a damn religious troll? God here, Jesus there. lol...

All I have to say to this ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvHpvHFXU0


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Posted 9/30/08
it means hoping for something
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it means to believe in something so strong that you know something can happen well in terms of god anyway
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Faith :
1. is believing whether you see it or not.
2.trusting someone whatever happens

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Faith means believing something contrary to logic,facts or adequate reason and hoping you will reap the benefits of it one day.
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believing whatever B*Sh* it is told to you, specially if involves God... without arguing, asking for any proofs or using your brains at all

so you can't really blame those serial killer psychos that think God its talking to them....


and then they want you to differentiate whos real prophet and whos not... but God will get pissed if you doubt
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This Bull is getting on my nerves about what faith is supposed to mean. It does have extreme meanings, as in it's either the christian definition or the atheistic definition, depending on who uses it. Christians, get yo bibles ready. Atheists, get your...uh....uh....nonbelieving books ready.

*Sits back to watch exploding arguements*

dear crunchypib
take a look at this site...
hope it'l give u d answer

http://www.islamhouse.com/
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for me... faith simply means.. that you believe on something.. not only to God..
...it can also mean faith in your wife or husband.. etc...
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