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Posted 4/12/07
know what ps3 is not even worth buying who would waste $700(unless yur freaking rich u would buy anything u want) for a ps3 cmon guys i can buy a wii and a xbox360 with that kinda money lol if ps3 lowers its price it would make more money than they did last time if u think about it ps2 was only $200 back then now they raised ps3\'s price by over $400 becuz its a new console
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played both, but ps3 seemed to have Anti-Aliasing problems in some games =\
So...from my opinion ps3 isnt worth it ^^', but im just one of those picky people who choose graphics over gameplay.
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Posted 4/12/07

Kiteo_Hatto wrote:

played both, but ps3 seemed to have Anti-Aliasing problems in some games =\\
So...from my opinion ps3 isnt worth it ^^\', but im just one of those picky people who choose graphics over gameplay.


Your like the complete opposite of me about graphics and gameplay. I see games today with the most amazing graphics and yet the gameplay of it will suck so much. Gameplay to me is the most important thing. i would have fun playing tetris than a over HD game with no depth at all
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Ugh... It'll be years before HD becomes a standard where I'm from. I heard that the Wii looks a bit cruddy when not played on an HDTV... which I find kind of weird. Is it a prerequisite these days that you need an HDTV to play video games? Jeez... what happened to the good old days when you didn't have to cut a foot and a limb just to play video games?

Maybe that's why I enjoy gameplay well over graphics. Plus, I grew up in an age where a pixelated SD holding what looked like a barbeque stick would pass for a wizard.
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Posted 4/12/07

azian wrote:


Kiteo_Hatto wrote:

played both, but ps3 seemed to have Anti-Aliasing problems in some games =\\
So...from my opinion ps3 isnt worth it ^^\', but im just one of those picky people who choose graphics over gameplay.


Your like the complete opposite of me about graphics and gameplay. I see games today with the most amazing graphics and yet the gameplay of it will suck so much. Gameplay to me is the most important thing. i would have fun playing tetris than a over HD game with no depth at all


I cant understand people like you XD, but then again maybe there are people who like the visual quality over gameplay and storyline. However seeing how consoles have a lot of power these days, im dissapointed in PS3. Its graphics are an average low-mid gfx card grahics on pc ^^. Gameplay wise, yeah, console games are more fun as in 'hack and slash' with a press of one button =].
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Posted 4/12/07

mushroomjay wrote:

People who say the 360 is better is an obvious failure.

Look at the hardware for a second, you'll see the PS3 is superior.
Look at the capabilities for a second, PS3 ahead.
Look at the games, Ohh a surprise, 360.. Why? IT HAD A FUCKING YEAR AND IT ONLY HAS ONE GOOD GAME. And the game isn't that good.

People who say the Wii, same thing.

As well, the Wii won't get GOOD games, but fun games.

Not a Sony fanboy here, I just know that the PS3 is the best hard-ware wise, and will; as like the PS2, come out in lead near this generation of consoles end.

They all have one good game, or one game preferred by the mainstream.

360: Gears of War - Has plenty wrong but still manages to be "good"?
PS3: Resistance: Fall of Man - Standard FPS game, which is very fun.
Wii: TLOZ: TP - AKA every other Zelda Game, prettier, new dungeons, and one or two new items, as well, it's good.

360 has no excuse for one good exclusive in over a year.
Wii and PS3 do.


I totally agreed with you MJ.....
regardless of all the criticisms i believe that in the end it will be the PS3 that will stand above all others...
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Posted 4/12/07
Is it right to say that the raw power of a system will dictate the quality of games that come out on it? I thought this type of specification is left solely to the skills of the game developers who can optimize these specifications.
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Posted 4/12/07

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edsamac wrote:

Is it right to say that the raw power of a system will dictate the quality of games that come out on it? I thought this type of specification is left solely to the skills of the game developers who can optimize these specifications. :P


No it's not. It just states the systems capabilities.

I mean, I use my friends PS3 frequently. I installed Fedora Linux on his and have been playing DOOM3, quite frequently on it, just for shits and giggles.

Oh wait, did I--.. Yes, I'm playing a PC game on a Play Station 3? It can do that.
Also Fedora Linux is an operating system. You can install a fucking OS on the PS3 without going through shit like on the 360. The PS3 is actually meant to allow the user to install other OS'es. Superior hardware = better capabilities.

Anyway, that's another thing, now to answer the question I quoted:

The systems raw power provides many default things in games, however it's up to the developers to decide on the final quality.


I agree... But isn't that like a double edged sword for Sony? I don't think many people are willing to have a "game console" completely replace their PC's or (in my case) macs. It seems too ambitious and perhaps ahead of its time... or maybe I'm just getting a little emotional here.
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Posted 4/12/07

edsamac wrote:


mushroomjay wrote:


edsamac wrote:

Is it right to say that the raw power of a system will dictate the quality of games that come out on it? I thought this type of specification is left solely to the skills of the game developers who can optimize these specifications. :P


No it's not. It just states the systems capabilities.

I mean, I use my friends PS3 frequently. I installed Fedora Linux on his and have been playing DOOM3, quite frequently on it, just for shits and giggles.

Oh wait, did I--.. Yes, I'm playing a PC game on a Play Station 3? It can do that.
Also Fedora Linux is an operating system. You can install a fucking OS on the PS3 without going through shit like on the 360. The PS3 is actually meant to allow the user to install other OS'es. Superior hardware = better capabilities.

Anyway, that's another thing, now to answer the question I quoted:

The systems raw power provides many default things in games, however it's up to the developers to decide on the final quality.


I agree... But isn't that like a double edged sword for Sony? I don't think many people are willing to have a "game console" completely replace their PC's or (in my case) macs. It seems too ambitious and perhaps ahead of its time... or maybe I'm just getting a little emotional here.


Sony is taking a huge risk with the console they released this generation. Technically speaking, the PS3 is the standard for the next generation not this one. Secondly why do you need a game console to do stuff a computer would do. THATS WHY YOU HAVE A PC IN THE FIRST PLACE! It'll take a while for developers to harness the full power of the PS3 as developing games for a next-gen console needs to be taught to those who are interested in doing it. This of course is steering away third party support for the PS3. So Sony is hoping to win the console wars in the long run, but for now the Wii looks like it'll be the winner, but its still a long time away from the finish line.
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fr33z3r wrote:

when gta 4 comes out ps3 will be booming.


its confirmed multiplatform and gaurenteed itll be better on 360
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^ Haha! Sorry Jay, but even though you said you\'re not a Sony Fanboy, I can\'t help but think you are. *Don\'t take this seriously. I\'m just joking. Peace!
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Posted 4/12/07

mushroomjay wrote:

Well, Suicider, let's take a look at the previous Sony sales.

Wikipedia says:
Playstation: 102.49million
Nintendo 64: 32.93 million

The biggest comptitors during the fifth generation.

Once again, Wikipedia says:
Playstation 2: 115.36 million (shipped, possibly 110million+ sold to consumers)
Game Cube: 21.52 million
Xbox: 24 million

I see a domino affect in Sony's ally.


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fr33z3r wrote:

when gta 4 comes out ps3 will be booming.


its confirmed multiplatform and gaurenteed itll be better on 360


Oh god that post reeks of utter failure.


Yeah, but they had a completely different attack plan back then. They undercut the competition and released their systems early. Now they're the most expensive and released the latest. Exclusives are leaving sony like rats off a sinking ship. Unless they lower the price or get some powerhouse exlusives, they're going to go the same way Atari and Sega did.

The PS2 did so well for several reasons:

1 - it was reasonably affordable, not dirt cheap, but not absurd either

- the PS3 is the most expensive system on the market, and about as expensive as getting a damned new computer

2 - it was released in the early days of DVDs. Back when the PS2 first came not everyone had a DVD player. It was clearly the next generation of video, so people were more apt to spend money on it as opposed to the DC and N64 since it was more versatile.

- The next generation of video hasn't been nailed down yet, it can still go either way. consumers aren't as anxious to spend extra for something that isn't the established new medium yet.

3 - The PS2 was a dramatic jump over the PS1 (and the PS1 over the SNES).

- While the PS3 does look the best of all the systems, it's not the same dramatic night and day difference.

4 - Must have exclusives. With rare exceptions, launch titles suck. But it didn't take long for the PS1 and PS2 to develop a small library of must have exclusives.

- seriously, what does Sony have left that's concrete? even their final fantasy cash cow is talking about going multisystem, as well MGS4, DMC, and GTA4, and a slew of others

5 - The PS2 had a jump on the competition. From a hardware perspective, XBOX is superior. But PS2 outsold it in spades because they released it early enough to beat it out, but late enough to incorporate DVD technology and blow DC out of the water

Nintendo will always do well enough to stick around. They have established legacy titles people will shell out the cash for their system to play. This go round, they're undercutting the competition AND making a profit. 360 got the same jump on the competition that Sony once did, and now there are plenty of people sitting around with 360s. If the titles aren't exclusive, why bother picking up a PS3 when they can just play them on their 360? Most people don't have HD TVs or the knowledge to mod their consoles, so those points are moot. Hell, Sony is still bleeding money at this point. I know I can find a PS3 a helluva lot easier than I find a Wii. Unless Sony pulls a serious rabbit out of it's hat, they're doomed.
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^Since when did the PS2 come into this, but w/e. No one doubts that the PS2 was the best console of the past-gen and it still is. With it still beating all 3 of this-generation's consoles. I'm not saying that Sony "will" loose this battle but its going to be a close one all the way to the end... (Btw, even though the gamecube sucked it still had its moments: SSBM, Mario Kart DD, Paper Mario, Tales of Symphonia)
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Suicider wrote:

^Since when did the PS2 come into this, but w/e. No one doubts that the PS2 was the best console of the past-gen and it still is. With it still beating all 3 of this-generation's consoles. I'm not saying that Sony "will" loose this battle but its going to be a close one all the way to the end... (Btw, even though the gamecube sucked it still had its moments: SSBM, Mario Kart DD, Paper Mario, Tales of Symphonia)


Jay brought up Sony's past success as a reason that it will triumph in the current generation. I was pointing out that it was a different situation and really isn't indicitive of success in the current incarnation of the gaming market.
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Suicider wrote:

^Since when did the PS2 come into this, but w/e. No one doubts that the PS2 was the best console of the past-gen and it still is. With it still beating all 3 of this-generation's consoles. I'm not saying that Sony "will" loose this battle but its going to be a close one all the way to the end... (Btw, even though the gamecube sucked it still had its moments: SSBM, Mario Kart DD, Paper Mario, Tales of Symphonia)


Jay brought up Sony's past success as a reason that it will triumph in the current generation. I was pointing out that it was a different situation and really isn't indicitive of success in the current incarnation of the gaming market.


Heh, I was quoting jay and it seemed unnecessary to quote his entire post so I used the "^" instead, but you posted ahead of me.
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