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I am completely sick of kids in high school, and how everything in there life can be broken, cause of something in high school. Seriously your not there to make friends, your not there to care about other people or socialize, your there to bust your ass get the best grades you can so you can get out and get into a better school, which in turn will make you lot more money for you and your future family. I can't even remember how many people i have said this to that are still in high school. it just doesn't seem to register, they tell me im too old and i don't know what its like in high school anymore. Im only 21. Call me a hypocrite because i did the same thing and i didnt listen, mostly because the people telling me the exact same thing, was 9 years older than me, and i was a very stupid kid. But i fucked up, now im painting cars, and will be a laborer for the rest of my life. I hate to see it happen to people who still have a chance. I dont know this is just my rant, reply if you want, i just really had to get this off my chest.
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I hate how there's so much racism and hate in the world, yet we're suppose to believe that there's a God who is all holy looking over us. Come on, if a sinner like me can't stand to see stuff like that, how can the holiest being in the universe just sit there and watch? He suppose to have all sorts of power but do we see him use it, no! Whenever something bad happens, it's the Devil and whenever something good happens (rare), it's God. Also the bible has some truth to it but some things don't add up, I don't know what to believe, they say we're suppose to make our own decisions (free will), but some people are raised from a bad background or neighborhood, and believe it or not, a child absorbs everything like a sponge, and if a child is brought up to think a certain way, what makes people think that kid'll say "I want to go to church and improve myself"?, the truth is, it ain't gonna happen! That felt good, thanks stryfe604!
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I am completely sick of kids in high school, and how everything in there life can be broken, cause of something in high school. Seriously your not there to make friends, your not there to care about other people or socialize, your there to bust your ass get the best grades you can so you can get out and get into a better school, which in turn will make you lot more money for you and your future family. I can't even remember how many people i have said this to that are still in high school. it just doesn't seem to register, they tell me im too old and i don't know what its like in high school anymore. Im only 21. Call me a hypocrite because i did the same thing and i didnt listen, mostly because the people telling me the exact same thing, was 9 years older than me, and i was a very stupid kid. But i fucked up, now im painting cars, and will be a laborer for the rest of my life. I hate to see it happen to people who still have a chance. I dont know this is just my rant, reply if you want, i just really had to get this off my chest.


I disagree. High school grades mean jack shit in the real world. As long as you gradutate no one gives a damn. The only time they ever matter is when you are competing to get into elite Ivy league type schools, elite fields, or if you're shooting for scholarships. For your average state university (which is plenty good enough for most needs), just get your diploma with a reasonable gpa (like more than 2.5-3.0, which a monkey can get).

Life is short. Don't waste all of your youth working hard on academics that you'll never use or grades no one cares about. Kids place a higher value on school than it really deserves since they don't have anything else to really relate to. I'm not saying blow off school and pass with D's, but don't waste all your time studying when in the real world, honest to god, a C will do just as well as an A.

Worst case scenario, even if you do royally screw up high school, just go to the military for a few years (if you live in the US), and boom! college paid for as well as them being likely to let you in no matter how bad you did (provided you have a diploma or even GED). I did fine in high school, but I still went the military route and am glad I did. No excuse not go to college anymore.
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^^ yeh i disasgree as well.. i dunno where you live but graduates get loads of money and still have better advantage than those people who didnt.
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I think both of you are on either sides of the extreme for this issue though. Everyone just needs to find a balance between socializing and grades. Doing just one or the other isn't going to work. I really don't want to debate this, but it's just about moderation. I have plenty of fun with my friends and still maintain good grades. It's just all about management. It's cliche, but it's true.
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^ i dont think youre getting the point. ofcourse socialising is good it also helps you to get you good grades. Im highlighting that, graduates gets jobs easily, and gets paid really good on the first level of their employment. I know this because i recruit people.

so yeah.. I never mentioned anything about studying hard till your eyelashes are burnt.

STUDY WELL NOT STUDY HARD. theres a big difference
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I'm so sick and tired of my parents being completely detached in my life. They have always been in their own little world, never giving a crap about whether or not I want to be part of the family. I'm the only child, and it sucks I have no one to turn to when I'm alone. My parents have not bought me a single thing since I was 16, nor have I gotten a single birthday card. I've paid for all high school fees, all 4 years of college tuition, already on my second car, gas, insurance, clothes, apartment--all on my f*cking own. Yet I get lectured on how terrible I am doing in school (I don't know if a 3.0 is considered "terrible?"), how I never help with chores around the house, and I don't know how to be a good daughter. This perplexes me because I don't recall the last time they treated me like one. My grades are not top-notch because I'm in my 4th year of college (hoping to graduate this May); I'm taking 6 classes, and I have 2 jobs. I drive approximately 80-90 miles A DAY going back and forth between home, school, apartment, work. Also I've been doing this full-time school and full-time work ordeal since my 2nd year at the univ. I switch off living between home and my apartment for the time being just so that I can still be around them when they need me. What the hell do they want more from me? I'm on the verge of ripping my skin off......
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bellus-vae wrote:

^^ yeh i disasgree as well.. i dunno where you live but graduates get loads of money and still have better advantage than those people who didnt.


you missed the point. i never said don't graduate, i just said don't waste all your time studying for the top whatever percent particularly in high school. college is a different beast. obviously, a high school diploma and the right college degree will get you a better job than those who don't. seriously, once you get into whatever university you want, no one will ever ask about your high school grades. ever. it doesn't even matter if you valedictorian. college grades are more important, but they're still not the end all be all in determining what kind of job you get - the real world cares more about practical experience.


bellus-vae wrote:

STUDY WELL NOT STUDY HARD. theres a big difference


That's all I was trying to say really.
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Sorry I wasn't referring to your post bellus-vae. It was directed toward azrael and stryfe.
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^^haha.. ofcourse it matters, if youre a valedictorian.
thats a big misconception. If youre a valedictorian in HS and did really in uni say, became a summa cum laude, that makes a lot of difference in Resume believe me. But you know not everyone can do that well.

what im saying is. if you did really well in your studies, it will be a bonus for you and for ur future employer. but mostly for you. many companies would want to hire you.

dont think no one cares. dont be an idiot thinking that it doesnt matter, if you did well or not. because, all of your studying will be in vain
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I'm tired of getting crap for my age. I'm sorry I'm only 21. I'm sorry I work more than you. I'm sorry I have a better job than you. I'm sorry you've gone half your life without realizing your dreams. None of that is my fault though, seriously because I'm 21 you can't trust me? No it must be because I got through college so quickly or started up a company from scratch. Honestly looking down on someone for their age is just another form of prejudice and I'm tired of it. Immaturity can be found in people of any age, gosh my grandfather is immature. I really don't want to hear another person telling me how I'm not grown up, or that I need to mature more before I'm ready for something. I'm aware of my limits don't decide for me that I'm not ready.
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to azrael910: i dont know about you but think about it this way, why settle for mediocre when you can do your best and feel good about it in the end. you said it doesnt matter what you get in highschool or that its not a be all end all if you get say a 2-2 in uni, but the way i see it highschool and colleges are training programs that would build up your method of learning gradually ultimately making it easier and easier for you to pick up stuff, evaluate and process for real-life experience. i see it more as a constancy, not do better at college because highschool doesnt matter etc...skipping your learning method will become a big hindrance.

i've had so many discussions about this with my other 2 sisters who are at or soon going to uni. it does matter what you get in ur A levels...why? it'll get you to a topnotch university where there is a drive to do well because of the environment, believe me it matters who your tutors are, who you hang out with, where you spend most of ur time in etc....do you really think top employers look at Polytechnics when there are so many bright minds in Cambridge, Oxford, UCL, Imperial who need jobs? sure you pass in highschool but end up in Anglia Polytechnic with a 1st class, what's the use of that? i know someone from there who graduated and is still looking for a job 5 yrs on. Same goes with University degrees...i mean come on....realistically top employers rifle through university graduates with a 1st or 2-1, that's it...it matters where you end up after college/uni. what's the point of a degree when you end up delivering takeout curry to new undergrads anyway?
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to azrael910: i dont know about you but think about it this way, why settle for mediocre when you can do your best and feel good about it in the end. you said it doesnt matter what you get in highschool or that its not a be all end all if you get say a 2-2 in uni, but the way i see it highschool and colleges are training programs that would build up your method of learning gradually ultimately making it easier and easier for you to pick up stuff, evaluate and process for real-life experience. i see it more as a constancy, not do better at college because highschool doesnt matter etc...skipping your learning method will become a big hindrance.

i've had so many discussions about this with my other 2 sisters who are at or soon going to uni. it does matter what you get in ur A levels...why? it'll get you to a topnotch university where there is a drive to do well because of the environment, believe me it matters who your tutors are, who you hang out with, where you spend most of ur time in etc....do you really think top employers look at Polytechnics when there are so many bright minds in Cambridge, Oxford, UCL, Imperial who need jobs? sure you pass in highschool but end up in Anglia Polytechnic with a 1st class, what's the use of that? i know someone from there who graduated and is still looking for a job 5 yrs on. Same goes with University degrees...i mean come on....realistically top employers rifle through university graduates with a 1st or 2-1, that's it...it matters where you end up after college/uni. what's the point of a degree when you end up delivering takeout curry to new undergrads anyway?


It really depends on the degree. I've talked to and dealt with plenty of people in industry (as in the ones who do the hiring at fortune 500 company levels) and they say practical experience and grades mean more than grades. Also, college degree doesn't gurantee a job at all... that's why i originally said the right degree. College graduates are a dime a dozen now. The trick is to pursue the right path.

And for the final time - high school grades don't matter in the big picture. Just keep them good enough to get into the school you want. After that, your experience and college grades take precedence. After yo uget into college, they never go on resumes (good ones at least) nor does anyone ever ask about them. Ovbviously good high school grades won't hurt and they will help you prepare for college, but it doesn't change the fact no one gives a damn about them. If you don't have any experience on your resume aside from mcdonalds, then yes, they will care about it. But they'll take someone with the right internships, experience and good references with a 3.0 instead of someone with no experience or references and a 3.75.
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bust your ass get the best grades


I’m sorry but I just don’t understand that! School is painfully easy. I’m the worlds #1 do nothing slacker. I never study, I never do my homework, and yet I’m an A/B student. Next year I’m going to be brought into the NHS, and currently I’m a part of the Ne Plus Ultra program. (Which is apparently Latin for Exceeding Perfection or Exceeding Expectations.)

Well, I’m trying to lower my grades so I can get kicked out of the Ne Plus Ultra. I went in to make my momma happy, but they give you more work to do. Not that I do it, but I’m running out of excuses as to what happened to it here…. *Sigh*

Well, High-school grades are important if you have straight As. If you have straight As you can get into an Ivy league school. Other than that, it makes little to no difference. You can get into college just as easily with a C average as B average. Also, a D average. You may have to go to a less extravagant school, but nobody ever asks you where you went unless your in the ivy leagues. Other than that, Oklahoma University is no better than Francis Tuttle. (For those of you who don’t know much about this area, I just took a respected college and compared it to the one that everyone laughs at.) Cuz on résumé it doesn’t ask you “Where’d you graduate?” It says, “What’s you educational background?” or something like that. You then get these boxes to check. At no point are you questioned about your grades in High-school, or your college. Nobody ever cares which college it was. Now, if you get real high up in society this will change. But, for the rest of us, nobody cares. I used to make 32.50 an hour an I’ve not finished High-school. (I quit cuz it really was a pain in the rear.) Good grades does -not- = more money. It never has, never will.
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Grades are not everything. It is good to have high grades but they are not the most important thing in life. Friends are important too, in high school if u don't have any friends then u won't learn social skills and life can get pretty lonely. I am an A/B average student who is taking 2 advanced classes in High school. Most employers seems to value experience over education. U can't just go to college and expect to start @ the top, unless u go to an ivy league school or have ultra good connections. Sometimes college is not the best thing, Learning and perfecting a trade can bring in good income too.
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