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Posted 4/10/07 , edited 1/26/08
Pic worth a thousand words?


This thread is for all things fat.
Why is obesity rising higher and higher?
What can we do about it?
Is it really a disease?
How does the US compare to other countries? What are the diffrences?

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You can use this simple calc to check if you are obese. Do tell. My BMI is 21.
http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
On a related note, Philly, where I live part of the year, is the sweatpants capital of the U.S. Hey, perhaps the world, HooHa.
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mine is 23 something too.i heard the upcoming generation will be the first,where the average life expectation will be lowered,compared to their parents,because of it.


edit:as you can see in the second clip posted by mauz.
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^^^

^^not really, but you may be considered slightly overweight.

^ Hum...boobs....*ahem* back on track, I hear the UK is much better as far as obesity then the US.

Note that that bmi calc is intended for adults I believe, so diffrent for children, and elderly. Also some people have features which can effect the bmi, for instance African woman usually have heavier bones. If you bodybuild its a prob, as muscle is very heavy. But its a decent general indicator.

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Anyway, people are apparantly getting fatter all over the world. Still, that map of the U.S...when you walk out of the house like 30% of the people on the street are obese?
I can't help but imagining lots of teletubbies
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26.8 Bua ha ha...

but it doesn't really quite work with people who has more muscle than fat since muscle weighs more than fat.. :D...only my stomach has fat xD I have a 2 kegs lol.

Posted 4/10/07
haha yea traveling sword is right thiis online thing is ridicuously inaccurate...i like the ones where they pinch your fat and run tests.... on those i had a 13 or 14......ill take the one the op has and see what we come up with



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I would not go so far as to say ridicuously inaccurate. I already mentioned some considerations already anyway. What you are talking about are calipers using a skin fold method. And they are actually pretty hard to use well and can be rather inaccurate as well. Bioelectrical impedance analysis is pretty good. There are xray techniques, and others also.

For an alternative how about waist to hip. But honestly, if you have some extra in the hips as many women do, especially after they give birth/grown older, its not really a big deal. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14483512/
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I may be a stick, but the inside of my veins are probably scarier than most obese people's... everyone who sees what I eat says I'll probably die before I turn twenty.

And I don't think that America's obesity can be blamed on a disease, just look at that data - no way. I don't find it hard to believe that some obesity may be caused by disease, but there is no way that that high a percentage of Americans have it... America's obesity problem is caused by unhealthy habits.
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I had to do one of those for health.. I'm underweight. At like 5'9 or 5'10 (I forgot which) I weigh 125 pounds. Honestly I don't understand how people get fat. I eat all day, I sit around and do nothing, and then I sleep or eat some more...

I should be an albino walrus, not an albino…something skinny! I wish I could gain some weight too. Not like fat or anything, though a little of that would be good for me, but muscle mass! *Grumble* I hate been the clumsy lanky nerd guy! Such a drag!
I guess I just have a high metabolism or something… Bummer.
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The world is moving fast... which makes people patronize fast food. It's not that people are impatient, it's just that they need food quickly... and fast food is just... well... yeah.

Reminds me of the Super Size Me documentary... I wanna barf...
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Hmm i don't know my weight so i can't do the BMI - although when i did it a few months ago it was around 21- i don't think i've put weight on ^-^

Ahh too broad- i'll just answer the questions ^-^

Why is obesity rising higher and higher?
Generally a more lazy society. We don't have to walk anywhere for a start! Despite the continuous warnings about how car fumes are increasing global warming; i still see my nextdoor neighbours drive to the corner shop (a 10 minute quiet walk). Then there's all the machines. They either do something for us (cleaning) or keep us entertained as we sit still. Right now i could be running around in the sun yet i'm on a laptop! *shame* ^-^
There's also the issue of food. In the past alot of food was homemade or grown in your own garden. This meant it was fresh and contained no or little extra chemicals. Of course food is much cheaper these days. If you live in the UK you've probably planned on living on Tesco Economy if you go to Uni! I think the price equivalent in the USA is Walmart. Food is so each to get (delivery aswell) and cheap that you can simply sit down and eat!
There is the matter of mental ideas like increased depression in the modern world. For example; people being depressed and doing nothing but sleep and eat. But i don't have any actuall proof that depression has increased so i wont go in to that ^-^

What can we do about it?
On a personal level we can all do at least 30 minutes of exercise a day and monitor what we eat. However obese people may not have the mental strength to change their habits so others have to help them. There are alot of diet schemes on offer but i don't think these are any good! You need to have a balanced life style and as soon as you loose the required weight on one of the diets- you will just quit and probably end up putting it back on again! People need to be taught about the contents in their food and how it can affect them. That way they can see for themselves and monitor what's in their daily meals.
I also think it's important for this 'monitoring training' to be given to children so they can grow up with a better chance ^-^. You can see how that idea has influenced companies and people in simple things like the new McDonalds happy meals. I don't know if this is the same everywhere but you can now get carrot sticks instead of fries. Personally i don't quite see how carrot sticks go with a burger but hey it's healthy ^-^. However i have never seen a kid with carrot sticks in their happy meal! Admitedly i don't got to McDonalds much but when i do i can't help but notice the kids all have fries :(. This suggests that it's also the parents fault. I think it can be mean to instantly blame the parent but they obviously have some influence! I always feel sad when i see an obese mother with her young child. The child is already too big for her age and possibly eating crisps as she walks. I suppose it could be a genetic problem but it does make me wonder still. Hmm in that case parents also need to be given advice on how to monitor what their children eat.

Is it really a disease?
I think in a way it is. It's a diesease caused by mental problems which cause physical problems. However it is an actual diesease in some cases such as genetic/hormone problems.

How does the US compare to other countries? What are the diffrences?
Hehe the big phrase in the UK at the moment is 'We are turning in to America'. Lots of people are saying that if we don't start teaching the youth about what a healthy lifestyle is; the UK will end up as 'fat as the US'. Of course it's more of a bit of emotive language than truth but it does show the opinion of many.
The UK isn't as bad as America- but it's on it's way there! I think the problem here is not with the current obesity level, but with the future one. The main concern is how children as young as 7 are now officially obese. There has been alot of media on this aswell. Everyone in the UK will probably remember Jamie Oliver and his attack on school dinners. It turned out that they were getting less money spent on their food than those in prisons which became a major outcry of parents! (Although- prison food is for adults so wouldn't they eat more than children and hence have to pay for more food?)
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Mine turned out to be 19.1 at 115 lbs. and 5'5". I believe I'm in range but on the lower end of the spectrum. Though at times I do eat quite a lot. Maybe because here in college, time and schedule makes me miss meals. At home, I do eat 3 full meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner). Before college I was 120 lbs. which bumps me up to 20.0 for that time.
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im just so thankful for having a fast metabolism xD
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I'm 19.0, good, because last time I went to the doctor I was told I was underweight.

On the whole I agree with what s_j_b said in answer to the questions.

Homegrown food is not necessarily healthier, it is much more likely to have been infected by some form of pathogen which may be harmful to humans, whereas all crop plants are protected against disease. Additionally things you grow in your garden will not have been mass produced by someone who knows how to best grow the said plant, therefore the plant from the shop may have more nutritional value and be larger... though anything grown in a Dutch greenhouse is most definitely worse for you than the equivalent grown in an alotment.

In terms of food I think that "ready-meals" are one of the main problems (asside from fast food) have you ever looked at the list of ingredients on the side of a ready prepared dinner!?! They have more salt than I usually consume in a week, high sugar, preservatives, flavourings, colourings... goodness knows what. And people buy them because they taste nice (due to all the lovely flavour enhancers), look nice on the packaging (which is then put into a landfill site) and are easy to prepare (using the microwave, which is less efficient than using a gas cooker (source; school experiment))

Teaching people is one way to go, however we also need to reduce the attractiveness of the "easy alternative" of eating fast food. Reducing advertising is one way, additionally having warnings on packaging like on cigarettes may help.

Obesity is most definitely a disease! As seen in "Super Size Me" people become addicted to fast food (addiction is a mental disorder thus a disease)... I wouldn't be surprised if the next revision of the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) included a definition of self afflicted obesity (if it doesn't already) alongside eating disorders such as anorexia and bulimia.

As well as the US, Germany has a relitavely high rate of obesity. At present, about 70% of men and 50% of women in Germany are overweight or obese [1].... I would claim that this has something to do with the German diet... seeing as exercise is an important part of life here, and many people use bicycles or walk and take the tram to get around.

[1] Mensink GB, Lampert T, Bergmann E., 2005. Overweight and obesity in Germany 1984-2003. Bundesgesundheitsblatt Gesundheitsforschung Gesundheitsschutz. Dec;48(12):1348-56. url;
http://xrl.us/vpsf (Link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)
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