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Who trians taekwondo as an effective fighting stlye for the street?
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Posted 10/1/08 , edited 10/1/08
it doesnt matters how good your fighting skills r.....all that matters is how fast u run!!!!
that was wat my teacher taught me..
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i don't see how it would work in a real situation. most fights start out with both fighters about 4 inches away from eachother, right in each others faces. if you can pull off a kick at 4 inches away, then i think it could be very effective.....otherwise Muay Thai or Krav will reign


why pull off a kick that close when u can just punch or headbutt?...maybe a knee would be more effectice...honestly speaking i was asking if any one took taekwondo as a effective street fighting stlye, and how they go about training it...im starting to think it no longer exists...too many people get confused about martial sport and martial art...taekwondo today is mostly trained as a sport...back in acient times, it was a martial art used by the military, i wasnt asking if taekwondo is effective in a street.Im asking who trains it to be effective in the street...so far people simply dont believe it can be trained for street purposes at all...peace over war
Posted 10/1/08
not too effective i think

street fight is just brawling with your huge arms and legs
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I've been training almost all my life and my suggestions is you take some real structured classes but make sure your sensei/sifu is not soft like most American instructors. Sparring and impact training are most important if you want to learn to apply martial arts in a fight. I personally wouldn't recommend taekwondo and tai chi. For real applicable techniques and training I recommend muay thai(impact), kempo(technique/impact), Shaolin gung fu(technique), ninjutsu(technique/reflex), wing tsun(technique/manipulation) and avoid the flashy styles like wu shu(bad), taekwondo(ok) and capoeira(bad). Just as a bonus you can learn a weapon style Kendo, Escrima, or Flipino kali. Good Luck with your training
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tae kwon do is mostly an art

you have to be really skilled to be able to use it in a fight

id perfer jeet kun do =X
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Taekwondo doesn't suit well in most combat situations. Even korean commandos that was sent in the Vietnam War are forced to use fist fighting techniques because of rough terrain. In the streets, there are too many factors that will ruin your fighting style.
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Of course any trained martial artist can probably beat an untrained fighter but there does seem to be a dominant strategy in fighting. Simpler movements are faster and more efficient. Thus, mma or kickboxing is probably more likely to win in a fight. The basics in fighting are takedowns, locks, power, speed and endurance. If your body type is too small for takedowns, you'll need to focus more on speed/power. I'd say the dominant martial art is probably kickboxing. It's the basics of boxing and kicking, how can you lose? Oh yeah and you are not going to use a 360 tornado kick with 3 second air time in a fight... It shows discipline sure but that won't necessarily win a fight.

i dont believe in superior styles, only great fighters...i wasnt asking if taekwondo was an effective street fighting art, i was asking who trains it to be effective in the street...back in acient times taekwondo was used by the korean military...they didnt call it taekwondo, but it was a primitive form of it. i also believe in simple movements as being faster and efficient, but who says taekwondo doesnt have simple moves in it?Most of taekwondo, if not all, is trained as a sport...im not talking about that kind of taekwondo, im talking about a type of taekwondo that is actually used as a real fighting stlye, not an olympic sport...You wont find it being taught in America, but maybe somewhere high in the moutains of South or North Korea some old man might actually teach the original taekwondo...peace over war
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leechlife wrote:

Of course any trained martial artist can probably beat an untrained fighter but there does seem to be a dominant strategy in fighting. Simpler movements are faster and more efficient. Thus, mma or kickboxing is probably more likely to win in a fight. The basics in fighting are takedowns, locks, power, speed and endurance. If your body type is too small for takedowns, you'll need to focus more on speed/power. I'd say the dominant martial art is probably kickboxing. It's the basics of boxing and kicking, how can you lose? Oh yeah and you are not going to use a 360 tornado kick with 3 second air time in a fight... It shows discipline sure but that won't necessarily win a fight.

i dont believe in superior styles, only great fighters...i wasnt asking if taekwondo was an effective street fighting art, i was asking who trains it to be effective in the street...back in acient times taekwondo was used by the korean military...they didnt call it taekwondo, but it was a primitive form of it. i also believe in simple movements as being faster and efficient, but who says taekwondo doesnt have simple moves in it?Most of taekwondo, if not all, is trained as a sport...im not talking about that kind of taekwondo, im talking about a type of taekwondo that is actually used as a real fighting stlye, not an olympic sport...You wont find it being taught in America, but maybe somewhere high in the moutains of South or North Korea some old man might actually teach the original taekwondo...peace over war


Hmm you are looking for the wrong thing I think. Taekwondo is a martial art - thus a discipline. No instructor will just teach you the basic moves of taewondo and tell you to go use it in a fight. However, boxing/kickboxing I know for sure is taught for one purpose only. It's to train someone to be superior in a fight. So, you will only learn moves/movements that are beneficial to you in fighting. If you do find a combat focused taewondo, good luck! But even then, it will probably only be leg oriented (not really that good); or perhaps maybe even drifting to kickboxing style for combat sake.
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I've been training almost all my life and my suggestions is you take some real structured classes but make sure your sensei/sifu is not soft like most American instructors. Sparring and impact training are most important if you want to learn to apply martial arts in a fight. I personally wouldn't recommend taekwondo and tai chi. For real applicable techniques and training I recommend muay thai(impact), kempo(technique/impact), Shaolin gung fu(technique), ninjutsu(technique/reflex), wing tsun(technique/manipulation) and avoid the flashy styles like wu shu(bad), taekwondo(ok) and capoeira(bad). Just as a bonus you can learn a weapon style Kendo, Escrima, or Flipino kali. Good Luck with your training


i believe any orignial martial art can be used an as effective fighting stlye, it just depends on how its trained and the instructor who teaches it...btw tai chi is an internal martial art...it can be trained for fighting, but its main purpose now a days is health...same goes for taekwondo, its mainly used as a sport...but have u seen it in action when it is actually used/ trained as a fighting stlye?

no one on this entire topic has answered my quesion yet...im not asking for good martial arts to be trained in for street fighting effectiveness. I asked if ne one trains in taekwondo for the purpose of street fighting, and how do they do it... honestly speaking, u guys r turning this thread into a duplicate, this was already discussed on another thread called "martial arts".
There is no surperior fighting stlye, they all r the same...fights r based on individuals...peace over war
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Posted 10/1/08

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I don't, but my kids do. That count?


how do they train? What are some of the excercises they do? peace over war


Honestly, they have a pretty crappy instructor. I had to teach them to stretch before class, because the instructor never did. They are learning Tae Kwon Do and are almost danbo (hope I spelled that right) belts, but I don't believe that they could protect themselves with it if they were in the situation.


are they training it as a sport or fighting stlye?I cant imagine people actually teaching small kids how to fight...peace over war


It's supposed to both. They are 10 and 12, so they are old enought to fight back if needed. They do spar, but from what I've been told, he is teaching them incorrectly. And, they are expected to participate in tournaments.

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leechlife wrote:

Of course any trained martial artist can probably beat an untrained fighter but there does seem to be a dominant strategy in fighting. Simpler movements are faster and more efficient. Thus, mma or kickboxing is probably more likely to win in a fight. The basics in fighting are takedowns, locks, power, speed and endurance. If your body type is too small for takedowns, you'll need to focus more on speed/power. I'd say the dominant martial art is probably kickboxing. It's the basics of boxing and kicking, how can you lose? Oh yeah and you are not going to use a 360 tornado kick with 3 second air time in a fight... It shows discipline sure but that won't necessarily win a fight.

i dont believe in superior styles, only great fighters...i wasnt asking if taekwondo was an effective street fighting art, i was asking who trains it to be effective in the street...back in acient times taekwondo was used by the korean military...they didnt call it taekwondo, but it was a primitive form of it. i also believe in simple movements as being faster and efficient, but who says taekwondo doesnt have simple moves in it?Most of taekwondo, if not all, is trained as a sport...im not talking about that kind of taekwondo, im talking about a type of taekwondo that is actually used as a real fighting stlye, not an olympic sport...You wont find it being taught in America, but maybe somewhere high in the moutains of South or North Korea some old man might actually teach the original taekwondo...peace over war


Hmm you are looking for the wrong thing I think. Taekwondo is a martial art - thus a discipline. No instructor will just teach you the basic moves of taewondo and tell you to go use it in a fight. However, boxing/kickboxing I know for sure is taught for one purpose only. It's to train someone to be superior in a fight. So, you will only learn moves/movements that are beneficial to you in fighting. If you do find a combat focused taewondo, good luck! But even then, it will probably only be leg oriented (not really that good); or perhaps maybe even drifting to kickboxing style for combat sake.


u actually have a very good point, most instructors probably wont teach me to go use taekwondo in a fight.And boxing/kickboxing are also martial arts...i dont really see your point...

There r certain martial arts that are used solely for the purpose of combat... but boxing/kickboxing has multiple purposes...kickboxing can also be used for fitness and boxing is also a sport...therefore, when trained for those purposes it loses its combat effectiveness...same thing with taekwondo actually...and serveral martial arts...now its possible to learn how to fight from martial sports, but in the end its never as effective as if u were being trained for that purpose to begin with...boxing and kickboxing both have good moves/movements, but you would still lack grappling skills, not to mension thier r weaknesses in both boxing/kickboxing that lead to a lot of wasted energy and flawed defenses for attacks that come from outside of the boxing ring...

im not sure what a combat type of taekwondo would look like, but im sure punches would be wayyy more used and it most likly wouldnt be called taekwondo...peace over war
Posted 10/1/08
i use to do tai kwon do onli up to blue belt
Posted 10/1/08

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lightson wrote:

I've been training almost all my life and my suggestions is you take some real structured classes but make sure your sensei/sifu is not soft like most American instructors. Sparring and impact training are most important if you want to learn to apply martial arts in a fight. I personally wouldn't recommend taekwondo and tai chi. For real applicable techniques and training I recommend muay thai(impact), kempo(technique/impact), Shaolin gung fu(technique), ninjutsu(technique/reflex), wing tsun(technique/manipulation) and avoid the flashy styles like wu shu(bad), taekwondo(ok) and capoeira(bad). Just as a bonus you can learn a weapon style Kendo, Escrima, or Flipino kali. Good Luck with your training


i believe any orignial martial art can be used an as effective fighting stlye, it just depends on how its trained and the instructor who teaches it...btw tai chi is an internal martial art...it can be trained for fighting, but its main purpose now a days is health...same goes for taekwondo, its mainly used as a sport...but have u seen it in action when it is actually used/ trained as a fighting stlye?

no one on this entire topic has answered my quesion yet...im not asking for good martial arts to be trained in for street fighting effectiveness. I asked if ne one trains in taekwondo for the purpose of street fighting, and how do they do it... honestly speaking, u guys r turning this thread into a duplicate, this was already discussed on another thread called "martial arts".
There is no surperior fighting stlye, they all r the same...fights r based on individuals...peace over war



Sorry didn't understand your questions very well. The Taekwondo system in the US is really bad because students up to 3rd degree black belt can't train with the instructors above 5th degree black belt so unless your extremely devoted your not gonna get any face time with the real masters. If you wanted to learn the traditional style of taekwondo it would be in Korea. I did a 3 month program in Korea that's similar to a student exchange program and it was much more intense and objective than any training I did in the US. That might be what your looking for but it takes too much time. So I guess what I am saying is your not gonna be able to find the traditional training style in the US. In the training in Korea all the motions in the techniques are minimized and much more logical. So training by yourself I would work on making your motions smaller and quicker and one thing that is emphasized the most is stance and balance like when you kick check your form in the mirror and make sure your doing it correctly from the beginning.

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Taekwondo doesn't suit well in most combat situations. Even korean commandos that was sent in the Vietnam War are forced to use fist fighting techniques because of rough terrain. In the streets, there are too many factors that will ruin your fighting style.

then why not "use only that which works"? what are these "factors" u keep mentioning?How do u know what my fighting stlye is like? Where doesnt taekwondo suit well? What situations? punching techniques are a part of taekwondo as well...
the street as infinite factors that can ruin ne ones fighting stlye...why not get rid of the factors?why not lift the boundaries...?its still taekwondo...just without the bounderies...peace over war
Posted 10/1/08
I just thought about for a second and maybe what your thinking of is taekkyeon a ancient Korean fighting style that look similar to taekwondo but more brute?
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