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Posted 10/2/08 , edited 10/2/08

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Regardless whether you vote or not... One of these men will be the future president of USA but if you ask me, I'll choose the lesser evil and pick McCain.


McCain lesser of the two evils lol.......You are sadly mistaken..........


Although that I'm not an American, I have the right to voice out my opinion. An Obama supporter eh... If you believe that Obama is right then that's your opinion.


hmmm... this is a tough one i am american and personally i dont like either one and do believe that both of them would more than likely have to double security, but McCain wants off shore drilling off the coast of Fl from what i understand. and i strongly oppose that and also the way he is campaigning, so i think i will go with obama because i really like hilary and bill really didnt do a bad job so what if he had an affair that was the best our economy has been in a long time and i want to believe that since he is endorsing obama he will help him pull this country out of our finacial depression. then maybe we as a country could begin to heal, the homeless and crime rates would go back down and it would be easier for middle class americans to find jobs. now that would be fantastic no?

P.S McCain VOTED AGAINST THE WOMENS RIGHT TO EARN EQUAL WAGES, STATING THAT WOMEN NEEDED BETTER EDUCATIONS AND MORE TRAINING TO BE EQUAL TO THAT OF A MAN, THAN WHEN PEOPLE FOUND OUT HE BACK PEDDLED AND CHOOSE A WOMAN VP TO SMOOTH IT OVER AND WIN BACK THE VOTES OF THE AMERICAN WOMEN

THAT PISSES ME OFF *sings* " anything you can do i can do better" lol
Posted 10/2/08 , edited 10/2/08
Old news...politicians were always liars. Really, nothing new. Politics is filled with lies and false hopes. All you need to do is look at the politicians, they all look the "same". Same crap. The ones who have good intentions will never get into an important position, because they are simply not made for this fake crap. Dishonest people win, and honest ones can gtfo in politics.

Just vote for the better liar.


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Old news...politicians were always liars. Really, nothing new. Politics is filled with lies and false hopes. All you need to do is look at the politicians, they all look the "same". Same crap. The ones who have good intentions will never get into an important position, because they are simply not made for this fake crap. Dishonest people win, and honest ones can gtfo in politics.

Just vote for the better liar.




Lol this is soo true. If you speak too much truth you enlighten the public too much then the governement wont be able to get away with half the shit they get away with now. Patriotic politicians see right through the propoganda even the fear driven proganda of the $700 bailout all of our news outlets was trying to scare us into believeing this is the only way and there is no alternative. Mccain offers no alternative, Obama offers no alternative and these are the two idiots we have to vote for which is sad because the number one issue, the economy, they both are incredible weak on it and would probably go along with even more bailouts rather then alternative solutions thus destroying the dollar value even more.

Untill America gets a mainstream outlet not owned by big corporations then we can see real news and elect wiser other then that expect more slants, disinformation, more fear to get our support, and 2012 two more presidents offering change which we will never see.
Posted 10/2/08

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ShroomInferno wrote:

Old news...politicians were always liars. Really, nothing new. Politics is filled with lies and false hopes. All you need to do is look at the politicians, they all look the "same". Same crap. The ones who have good intentions will never get into an important position, because they are simply not made for this fake crap. Dishonest people win, and honest ones can gtfo in politics.

Just vote for the better liar.




Lol this is soo true. If you speak too much truth you enlighten the public too much then the governement wont be able to get away with half the shit they get away with now. Patriotic politicians see right through the propoganda even the fear driven proganda of the $700 bailout all of our news outlets was trying to scare us into believeing this is the only way and there is no alternative. Mccain offers no alternative, Obama offers no alternative and these are the two idiots we have to vote for which is sad because the number one issue, the economy, they both are incredible weak on it and would probably go along with even more bailouts rather then alternative solutions thus destroying the dollar value even more.

Untill America gets a mainstream outlet not owned by big corporations then we can see real news and elect wiser other then that expect more slants, disinformation, more fear to get our support, and 2012 two more presidents offering change which we will never see.


I thought that boycotting the presidential elections would solve the issue. If you persuade more than 60% of the voters not to go vote...then they shouldn't be able to pick the new president. Well, I'd need to take a deeper look into the election system of the USA. But they shouldn't be able to pick a new president if more than half of the voters don't vote. Somehow there should be a way to start new elections with new/other candidates, if more than half of the population of the USA doesn't agree with neither of the current candidates.
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i only choose mc cain cuz hes not tryin to take my guns from me.


As if you need guns.....






I may not need them at the moment but its always nice to have them and not need them then to not have them and need them.

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Posted 10/2/08

ShroomInferno wrote:


drizza wrote:


ShroomInferno wrote:

Old news...politicians were always liars. Really, nothing new. Politics is filled with lies and false hopes. All you need to do is look at the politicians, they all look the "same". Same crap. The ones who have good intentions will never get into an important position, because they are simply not made for this fake crap. Dishonest people win, and honest ones can gtfo in politics.

Just vote for the better liar.




Lol this is soo true. If you speak too much truth you enlighten the public too much then the governement wont be able to get away with half the shit they get away with now. Patriotic politicians see right through the propoganda even the fear driven proganda of the $700 bailout all of our news outlets was trying to scare us into believeing this is the only way and there is no alternative. Mccain offers no alternative, Obama offers no alternative and these are the two idiots we have to vote for which is sad because the number one issue, the economy, they both are incredible weak on it and would probably go along with even more bailouts rather then alternative solutions thus destroying the dollar value even more.

Untill America gets a mainstream outlet not owned by big corporations then we can see real news and elect wiser other then that expect more slants, disinformation, more fear to get our support, and 2012 two more presidents offering change which we will never see.


I thought that boycotting the presidential elections would solve the issue. If you persuade more than 60% of the voters not to go vote...then they shouldn't be able to pick the new president. Well, I'd need to take a deeper look into the election system of the USA. But they shouldn't be able to pick a new president if more than half of the voters don't vote. Somehow there should be a way to start new elections with new/other candidates, if more than half of the population of the USA doesn't agree with neither of the current candidates.


Well that problem is there is not a "none of the above option" and most people are so far brainwashed you cannot convince. The only convincing will come when failed policy continues and economy goes downhill thats when people will finally realize there is something terribly wrong with the 2 party system and there is little if not at all any difference between them. America is soo biased with indepedant parties making it extremely hard for them to get in debates or on ballots. This is how dems and repubs have it set up like that. This explains why we wont ever see like we saw in the 90s when Ross Perot was in the debates and was actually getting votes the dems/repubs didnt like that so now our system is setup to where only you will see those 2 evils running for president. Our media does a bad job also they only give airtime to the candidates they want us to vote for and little for the ones they dislike.

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america doesnt need president. it needs a magician!!
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Well....no one is perfect. Especially when it comes to lies. 'Cause everyone tells them.
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hmmm... this is a tough one i am american and personally i dont like either one and do believe that both of them would more than likely have to double security, but McCain wants off shore drilling off the coast of Fl from what i understand. and i strongly oppose that and also the way he is campaigning, so i think i will go with obama because i really like hilary and bill really didnt do a bad job so what if he had an affair that was the best our economy has been in a long time and i want to believe that since he is endorsing obama he will help him pull this country out of our finacial depression. then maybe we as a country could begin to heal, the homeless and crime rates would go back down and it would be easier for middle class americans to find jobs. now that would be fantastic no?

P.S McCain VOTED AGAINST THE WOMENS RIGHT TO EARN EQUAL WAGES, STATING THAT WOMEN NEEDED BETTER EDUCATIONS AND MORE TRAINING TO BE EQUAL TO THAT OF A MAN, THAN WHEN PEOPLE FOUND OUT HE BACK PEDDLED AND CHOOSE A WOMAN VP TO SMOOTH IT OVER AND WIN BACK THE VOTES OF THE AMERICAN WOMEN

THAT PISSES ME OFF *sings* " anything you can do i can do better" lol


Bill Clinton was good at what he did. The problem is that what he did was play “short term leadership.” In other words, he was more concerned about looking good while he was in office than he was with the greater benefit of America. You do realize that he’s largely to blame for the current economic crises? The Clinton administration pressed for less stringent credit and down payment requirements for working- and middle-class families.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/clinton-rejects-blame-for-financial-crisis-2008-09-25.html

Also, Obama’s economic plan is simply too revolutionary. We’re not stable enough to support it. Let’s look at a few examples. He wants to privatize health insurance. I also want health insurance to be privatized. (Canada has private health insurance, and so does France, and Sweden-all three are famous for their health insurance. This is so true that my grandmother became a French citizen.) However, this costs a lot of money. Where does the government get its money? It gets it from revenues and taxes. To get the money to privatize health insurance we have to raise taxes.

This means that you and I are going to be shelling more bucks out of our pocket, but that doesn’t bother me. You see, I don’t like people who ‘vote with their wallets,’ because I’m willing to give my hard earned money for my ideals. I’d sell everything I owned if it meant saving lives like a privatized health insurance system would.

However, the taxes aren’t limited to households, families, and citizens. They also apply to businesses. Small business are continuously going out of business because they can’t keep up with the taxes. By raising the taxes we destroy small business and make it harder to break into business. This results in the slower generation of future jobs and the loss of already existing jobs.

When American citizens aren’t making money they can’t pay taxes. When we can’t pay taxes the government can’t raise money. When the government can’t raise money it’s programs fail. Economists are all pointing out that Obama’s plan is simply not realistic.

Obama wants to give 10% of our GDP to the UN. I like this idea because I feel the world would be a better place if larger nations were contributing more. This would also help our internation relations. However, how are we going to afford an entire tenth of our GDP being sent away with no direct benifit?

By cutting military expenditures. About twenty percent of the national budget goes to the American military. That‘s about $583,283,000,000. That’s more than the COMBINED military expenditures of the ENTIRE European Union. However, even that’s less than 4% of our GDP. So, how is cutting 4% of our GDP going to allow him to sacrifice 10% of our GDP?

Well, it’s not, and Obama knows it. He’s going to further raise taxes, costing more jobs, and taking more money from our wallets.

Obama’s plans will raise the governments spending by a 10,000,000,000,000-after- the bailout’s $7,000,000,000,000. I chose to use the numerals instead of writing the words out to stress how much money is at stake here. Even for the government that’s a lot of money.

What we can’t forget is that, thanks to Bush, our government is already trillions of dollars in debt. As a matter of a fact, America’s debt is greater than the rest of the world combined.

A lot of Obama’s ideals are wonderful, I’ve thought that since he started running. (Though I’m not fond of his stance on allowing abortion in all cases, and I certainly hate that he’s against gay marriage. I wish Ellen was more politically extroversive, she’d eat him alive! Lucky, the president can’t ban gay marriage, only the individual states can.) However, while Obama has great ideas for revolution, there’s simply no way he’s going to carry out with his campaign promises.

You know, most politicians don’t follow through once they get in office. Remember, if something sounds too good to be true it probably is. Well, Obama’s ‘change,’ sounds too good too be true. I think it’s hollow campaign promise. Obama’s got a history of political dishonesty. So does McCain, mind you, but Obama’s is considerably more massive.

(I would like to note that Plain has actually been naively honest through most of this campaign, while Joe Biden has been self-contradictory. This being said, neither one of them were 100% honest in the vice presidential debate today, but both made valid points none the less.)

Now, I would like to elaborate on your comment about McCain and women’s rights to earn equal wages. I want to do this because I don’t think you’d be so offended if you knew the entire context of his vote.

You see, what he voted against was affirmative action for women. Affirmative action is often called, ‘positive prejudice.’

You see, women and minorities-African Americans and Hispanic Americans most notably-are often the victims of industrialized discrimination. Many people say that industrial racism and sexism is over. This drives me mad!

Statistics and studies both clearly show that this just isn’t true. Women and racial minorities ARE being discriminated against in their personal AND professional lives.

This being said, ‘positive prejudice,’ was invented as a counter balance. The hope behind positive prejudice is to give women more jobs and force companies to pay male and female employees equally.

However, there’s a problem. Positive prejudice is still prejudice. It ignores individual performance. Here, let me give you an example.

My father once sent in an application to be a member of the local police force. He’s the man who invented the safety system used by the entire Military Police Force of Ft. Lewis, Washington. He’s college educated, and was a member of the Military Police Force with maximum clearance for nearly a decade.

The local police force had advertised that it needed more workers. Naturally he figured he’d be a perfect candidate-and he would’ve been except one complication. The police force did need more workers, but it needed more African American workers. Affirmative action forced the police agency to maintain a certain percentage of African American employees. So, even though my dad was more qualified, a black man who had relatively negligible experience got the job.

Imagine you were a manager at a local restaurant. You have many employees but two in particular. Both of these employees are cashiers. One is a man and one is a woman. The man is always smiling, his cash-drawer never comes up short, and he the customers love him. As a matter of a fact, many customers come just to see him. He makes them laugh and they enjoy talking to him. He’s also very generous, often pitching in to help customers when they’re short on change.

The female does her job, but she never smiles. She never steals, but sometimes she gets careless and the drawer is several dollars short. She’s loosing you customers and money, and many customers send complaints about her being terse. She’s not an entirely bad employee, just mediocre.

Under positive prejudice you’re forced to pay this woman the same amount as you’re paying this man. You see, it’s not really fair to that man. Now, collectively it’s “for the greater good,” but it ignores the fact that this man is being treated unfairly.

McCain voted against collective action because he, like most republicans, feels that there is no room for prejudice in the government, even if it’s positive. He believes that men and women should be paid based on performance. In the examples I gave you my dad should have been hired, and your male employee should’ve been paid more.

However, if you reversed it and said that the girl was the better employee and the boy was a boob then the girl should get paid more. Should the black have been more qualified than the white the black should’ve gotten the job.

McCain has made a comment about women requiring more training, but he was talking about the military. His claim is statistically accurate because most low-ranked officials in the military join fresh out of high-school. High-schools have many sports programs but these are largely male dominated. In other words, the boys are typically in better shape than the girls.

This isn’t always true, but sometimes it is.

You see, men have their strengths and women have theirs. A recent study showed, for example, that women make better employers and managers while men make better employees. Male managers are too conservative. They reward good and punish bad, but don’t elaborate on this traditional method.

Women are more likely (don’t forget I’m generalizing, this isn’t always true for either side) to bond with employees and create a “family,” feeling. This makes employees want to stay longer and work harder. It also makes increases teamwork.

Women, studies show, are BY FAR the better managers.

At the same time, men typically, make better employees because they’re less likely to feel competitive with coworkers based on appearance and performance. Their teamwork is, usually, better.

None of this is always true, but statistically what McCain said wasn’t inaccurate. He was just generalizing. That doesn’t justify it, generalizing isn‘t entirely fair, but he wasn’t really wrong and Obama-as well as anyone supporting positive prejudice-is guilty of this to some degree themselves.

I recently read an expository essay written by a young African American republican who hated affirmative action. This youth, in considerably more aggressive terms, wrote: “Democrats act like minorities are handicapped or stupid. We don’t need handicaps like affirmative action! We’re just as capable as white people!”

There was even an episode of Scrubs where an African American doctor, Turk, was irritated because people recognized him as a surgeon not because his talent but because his race. African American surgeons weren’t as common as Caucasian ones, so he received unfair publicity and credit for performances. This irritated him and he threatened to sue the hospital if they didn’t start acknowledging white and black employees equally-based only on performance.

This topic has been greatly debated. Personally, I despise sexism and generalizing. I don’t think it’s fair that I’m paying three times as much on my car insurance as my sister-even though I’m a paranoid safety freak. I drive 5-10 miles under the speed limit, always buckle up, and never take risks.

My sister never buckles up, occasionally speeds, and is constantly talking on the cell-phone while driving.

It’s much more likely that she’ll get in a wreck, but because I’m a man they automatically assume that I’m street-racing.

Sexism against men is still sexism. People should be judged based on action, not rather they have a penis or a vagina.

McCain’s vote was simply saying that a woman who works harder than a man should get paid more. A man who works harder than a woman should get paid more. A women who doesn’t work hard as a man doesn’t deserve to be paid as much as that man. A man who doesn’t work as hard as a woman doesn’t deserve to get paid as much.

I’m not too fond of McCain though. This being said, Palin is pretty cool. I like her stance on abortion, education, the economy, and the war effort. I like that she, like McCain and Ronald Regan, hates party politics.

I hate her stance on gay marriage (she, like Obama and Joe Biden, is against gay marriage.) I also hate that her motive for raising national funding for special needs children comes from the fact that she has a retarded baby. I want more money to go to special needs students-I was in special ed in grade school-but I think it’s narrow that she’s letting personal experience dictate that decision.

I absolutely abhor Obama. I liked Biden when he was a senator, but I don’t like him as a vice president. I think he’s betrayed himself to insure Obama’s victory. I think that this is party politics and my admiration of Biden has suffered a fatal blow.

I WANTED to vote for Hillary Clinton. She was the most qualified, and while she was caught lying a few times she was still more honest than McCain OR Obama. Oh well, I guess she’ll forever be blamed for her idiot husband’s mistakes.


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Posted 10/4/08
No candidates are perfect espeicailly this year, but I am defendly sure that I'm 100% going to vote McCain/Palin.
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all i know is i dont vote cause everybody says the same shit and then everyone pays for it later. me and some of my friends think if they make obama president they might assaninate him..
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all i know is i dont vote cause everybody says the same shit and then everyone pays for it later. me and some of my friends think if they make obama president they might assaninate him..


oh yeah, i thought so, too, actually....the same as they did with kennedy...
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McCain lesser of the two evils lol.......You are sadly mistaken..........



I think you're the one mistaken. At least McCain's not a party-politics playing extremist who cares more about himself, his career, and his office than the American nation.
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raja613 wrote:


McCain lesser of the two evils lol.......You are sadly mistaken..........



I think you're the one mistaken. At least McCain's not a party-politics playing extremist who cares more about himself, his career, and his office than the American nation.


Blah Blah.....lol I don't wanna get into a back and forth now Obama is gonna win........thats all!
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Blah Blah.....lol I don't wanna get into a back and forth now Obama is gonna win........thats all!


Well, of course you don’t. You’d have to actually defend Obama if we debated our points. Which, you’re almost certainly incapable of-considering that 90% of Obama’s supporters are nothing more than puppets dancing their jig.
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