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Religion: is it too controlling?
Posted 4/11/07
i think that organized religion is controlling and i cant stand to be controlled hence i have no religion.now let me define something:i may have no religion but that doesnt mean i have no faith in god. i only disagree with having a religion(being baptised or becoming jewish, muslim, taoist etc...) because i feel once you're in, the church can teach you whatever they want and if you disagree, your soul might be in danger of eternal torture in the afterlife or in the next reincarnation or whatever you believe.i dont have much quarrel with what some churches preach, its just that power to tell some-one they could go to hell for not agreeing like in catholocism.

the only religion i completely disagree with is scientology and that i wont get into because most people know they are a cult. i will not join a chuch until im older and ill pick one that i like. i base my argument off of catholocism because if the pope makes a tenant you dont agree with, you could go to hell and that really bothers me.my mother's religion is very much like cathholocism and im drawn away from it.

what about you guys? do you feel that religion is controlling?i do in most cases
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Posted 4/14/07
man, you should join a protestant church. protestants unlike catholicism believe you yourself must accept Christ as your savior. you must repent of all of your sins and by Jesus dying on the cross acted as a sacrifice for your sins that you could be forgiven. you must pray and believe with faith what your praying that Jesus died for your sins and without Christ you'll go to hell. also you must believe with faith that Jesus died for your sins that you could be forgiven, that he was buried to signify that he really did die, and as Jesus said would happen Resurrection. Jesus told his disciples before he died. "as Jonah was in the belly of the beast for three days and three nights. so shall the son of man be buried in the belly of the earth for three days and three nights". you see Jesus arose again on the third night. what Jesus's Resurrection stands for is this : that once we receive Jesus Christ as our Savior, we also when we die or simply put when this body passes away and eternity begins we will receive body's like Christ's own body. how would these bodies be alike simple they would both be sinless. so pretty much confess sincerely to God that your a sinner and without him you'll burn for eternity in the lake of fire. ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins and believe with faith and also say it to God that you Believe sincerely in the Death, Burial, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Than ask Jesus to come into your heart, to save you.
Posted 4/14/07
^ Errr...it sorta sounds like you're trying to convert us, and Catholics believe in all that to...it's all Christianity anyway, so all the major concepts are the same.

As for me, every religion started out technically as a cult, and for most major ones, the "We tell you what to believe, and will save you from the darkness" mindset is still intact, and would be labeled as cults if they didn't have so many followers.
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Posted 4/14/07

Warning Religious content bellow! If you do not want to read about my religious views, then I urge you not to read bellow. I note this to keep from forcing my beliefs on anyone. Your all free to your own religion, just like your free to read the following post or not. (So please don’t jump down my throat for what I say. :p J/K)


Protestants are no better than Catholics so don’t pretend they are. We’re the same thing in a prettier package.

I’m what you call a “Nondenominational Christian.” In short I do not have a religion other than Christianity. I do not believe in putting sects, Such as Baptists or Mormon, catholic or protestant into religion. As a Christian I think that is picking and choosing what commandments you do and do not want to follow. It’s kind of like how the Catholics decided to burn all the books in the bible -they- decided were not real. The bible tells us not to do this, but lets face it, the Catholics have a history of bending the bible to suit them. It’s not so bad now, but once upon a time Popes were telling people that if they went and slaughtered Muslim scum then they’d go to heaven beyond a shadow of a doubt. There is no verse in any translation or version of the bible that says that…

Anyway, if you don’t want to be controlled by God, but you believe in him, your proud. Pride is amongst the most dangerous of demons to have. Lust kicks my butt more than pride, but pride gets me too. It will destroy you. Ultimately you’ll end up in hell if you let pride run your life. Of course, I’m a supper hypocrite for saying that… Hopefully I can stop being a weak little self centered brat and straighten up before I die. Otherwise I can expect to see Hitler in hell.

Well, whatever the case, what Keelo said is right. Though I don’t think you need to believe the burial part to go to heaven… Honestly I think it can all be summed up in one verse from the bible, can you guess which one? It’s very famous!

Well, anyway, sinning or not you can still go to heaven. You just need faith. But to develop real faith you must love God, and if you love God you’ll humble yourself and serve him. Being controlled or not. Like Keelo said, ask God into your heart. Ask him to help you, and also start going to Church. That seriously helps me…

Now this is all of course my personal view on things. I don’t mean to push my religion on anyone… Forgive me if I offended any of you.
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Posted 4/14/07
I'm not trying to convert you; but, if what I said made any sense I'm glad. If you do not like what I said fine I understand. no one's forcing you to view what anyone wrote.
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Posted 4/14/07
Skygod, so does that mean your a deist? And I don't find religion controlling. I'm highly offended by you saying religion is controlling and only talking about how Christianity is controlling; like Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, deism and those other religions don't exist. There are many other religions out there than just Christianity. Also, it depends on how devote you are. I mean, religions don't control your life unless you so chose it. One example would be that not all Jews keep Kosher. Also it depends on your definition of controlling. The most "controlling" country in the world right now is the United States. We have the most laws. However, it could easily be argued that places like North Korea or the USSR are/were controlling. Then again, Soviet Russia only had one law: Don't do anything against the revolution.

Anyway, in short, I don't find religion controlling and I highly suggest you look into other religions before saying you don't have one. You might fall into a group you never heard of, you don't know that. Judging from your post I'd say you're a deist, but I don't know you like you do.
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Posted 4/14/07
Keelo, I said I liked what you said! Read more carefully!

On a related note!:

One example would be that all Jews keep Kosher


Please tell me you meant to put a not or don't somewhere in there....
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Posted 4/14/07
meh - It only seems too controling if you are unsatisfied with it (e.g. have different views, unsure what you believe, etc). If you sincerely believe in the specified doctrin you will not feel that it is controling at all, it is something you conform to without actually realizing it.
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Posted 4/14/07
My bad SeraphAlford I wasn't refereeing to you; but, the person above you. also about the burial thing, you would believe in the burial thing because it signifies that Jesus actually died.
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Posted 4/14/07
I'm not religious at all. It is up to everyone which religion they follow and whether they accept the control it exerts over them. It is when they try to control others in the name of religion that problems start.
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Posted 4/15/07
Dang! isn't this a sensitive topic..... ?!? well skygod333, you are a very daring person...^_^... I don't even know why I am here... well then adieu!
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Posted 4/15/07
How is religion too controlling? No one makes you join a religion unless your parents are uber-you're-going-to-hell-if-you-dont-join freaks. I know lots of Christians that don't attend church. But dose that make them bad Christians? No, they are good people. Freedom of religion and worship is a wonderful thing.
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Posted 4/15/07
I guess it all depends on what you want to do with your life....some people feel like some things missing and thats filled with religion...you need to be controlled in some way but if you truly believe and truly accept then its not seen as controlling

Im a practicing muslim and i accept what my religion says and believe in it so i guess i see it as more approproriate then controlling .. you need to have good understanding and belief ... peace lollll
Posted 4/15/07
I agree with the last 2 comments;

Religion is what you make it!

It need not be controlling, though it can be. That depends upon the culture in which the religion is practiced. Some cultures (built around religious interpretations) are highly controlling, such as some arab states (requiring women to be with a man when in public). Others built around religion are reasonably lax, such as the British state, which is a "Christian" country, however has one of the most culturally diverse and accepting communities in the world.

I would not say that "religion is too controlling" - however I would say that what some people do with religion is too controlling. However, in the end you can't control someone without that person's "agreement". (aggressive coercion aside)
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Posted 4/15/07
^ just im about to say..

i think people nowadays, if something doesnt suit their "lifestyle" theyll just say.."its too controlling." "bad religion." and i really think that almost everyone has this really bad image about religion etched in thier narrow mind. What people need is to open up their mind and see for themselves that religion arent all the same.

thats all i can say for this exhausting topic.

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