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Posted 10/24/08

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I don't do it because my car is FF car. Even if I had a RWD I probably wouldn't do it. I don't have the money to renew my tires all the time -_-



Dont have money for new tires? drift in the rain : ) its a lot easier and dosent do much dmg to your tires.


drift in the rain?
its so dangerous..But If u do that...I'm sure u r going to die soon...



drifting in the rain is not as dangerous as you think unless your doing it in the mountain pass or something. Yes a lot of drifters i know LOVE the rain because

1. you dont burn as much tire
2. cops dont hear you burn tire
3. easier to break a drift
4. you don't have to go as FAST to break your drift
5. FUN FUN FUN



Certainly your points are correct, but you're forgetting a lot of kids these days are 'drifting' by actually hydroplaning, some have even told me they put some soap in their tire tread.

It may not be dangerous to someone who is trained or with an instructor on a closed course, but to the average joe-blow who is "drifting" their civic or other car in the rain, there's a fine line between losing traction and being able to recover, versus losing traction and being able to plow into something.



certainly, i would always advise any beginner to practice at the track, for practice makes perfect. Drifting is all about good judgment, i have crash in dry/rain weather, broke countless control arm, rims, fenders, bumpers etc. but never wreck my car to the point of no return. Im sure all the drifters out there would agree with me, they've all been down that road before. accidents do happen, and most certainly will, its all part any auto sport. its totally up the driver to decide what is a good spot for them to drift, especially in the rain. for me id find a wide street corner with no park cars, in case i lose control id rather plow into a sidewalk than somebody's car, all part of what i call good judgment.


Agreed. I've torn up my cars several times, especially at 4x4/trailtrack/amateur driver cup rally events.
I powerslid through some gravel once like a complete n00b, ended up kicking a ton of rocks at people while also a small pothole appeared and caught the tire and rim, pulling the axle out completely. fun times, fun times.

The only thing i was stating (which i have a habit of not always making clear points) was that most of the people around here today don't really drift, and if they do, it's pure street racing and most don't realize the severity of the consequences. Sure, it's difficult to damage your car to being totalled by a track meet, but what if that guy didn't realize he'd have to pay a few hundred for a new LSD as well as say, a ton of parts he can only get at a marked-up money-hungry dealer?

Just sayin' people need to use caution and really plan out even the worst case scenarios.




yea...and pay hundred to go to the track meet...new 2way lsd goes from 800-1300 but you can cheap it out by going welded (100% locked) and you need to make sure the welds in the spider gears are good or they will break on you
Posted 10/25/08

yangss14 wrote:


RossoCorsa wrote:


hollafront wrote:


RossoCorsa wrote:


hollafront wrote:


Himemiya84 wrote:


Shabbernigdo wrote:


ryuuk3n wrote:

I don't do it because my car is FF car. Even if I had a RWD I probably wouldn't do it. I don't have the money to renew my tires all the time -_-



Dont have money for new tires? drift in the rain : ) its a lot easier and dosent do much dmg to your tires.


drift in the rain?
its so dangerous..But If u do that...I'm sure u r going to die soon...



drifting in the rain is not as dangerous as you think unless your doing it in the mountain pass or something. Yes a lot of drifters i know LOVE the rain because

1. you dont burn as much tire
2. cops dont hear you burn tire
3. easier to break a drift
4. you don't have to go as FAST to break your drift
5. FUN FUN FUN



Certainly your points are correct, but you're forgetting a lot of kids these days are 'drifting' by actually hydroplaning, some have even told me they put some soap in their tire tread.

It may not be dangerous to someone who is trained or with an instructor on a closed course, but to the average joe-blow who is "drifting" their civic or other car in the rain, there's a fine line between losing traction and being able to recover, versus losing traction and being able to plow into something.



certainly, i would always advise any beginner to practice at the track, for practice makes perfect. Drifting is all about good judgment, i have crash in dry/rain weather, broke countless control arm, rims, fenders, bumpers etc. but never wreck my car to the point of no return. Im sure all the drifters out there would agree with me, they've all been down that road before. accidents do happen, and most certainly will, its all part any auto sport. its totally up the driver to decide what is a good spot for them to drift, especially in the rain. for me id find a wide street corner with no park cars, in case i lose control id rather plow into a sidewalk than somebody's car, all part of what i call good judgment.


Agreed. I've torn up my cars several times, especially at 4x4/trailtrack/amateur driver cup rally events.
I powerslid through some gravel once like a complete n00b, ended up kicking a ton of rocks at people while also a small pothole appeared and caught the tire and rim, pulling the axle out completely. fun times, fun times.

The only thing i was stating (which i have a habit of not always making clear points) was that most of the people around here today don't really drift, and if they do, it's pure street racing and most don't realize the severity of the consequences. Sure, it's difficult to damage your car to being totalled by a track meet, but what if that guy didn't realize he'd have to pay a few hundred for a new LSD as well as say, a ton of parts he can only get at a marked-up money-hungry dealer?

Just sayin' people need to use caution and really plan out even the worst case scenarios.




yea...and pay hundred to go to the track meet...new 2way lsd goes from 800-1300 but you can cheap it out by going welded (100% locked) and you need to make sure the welds in the spider gears are good or they will break on you


thanks forposting.
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Posted 10/25/08

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I think it's fun but I can't afford fucking up my car, and I can't really drift correctly anyways lol




but thats a reason for those who street race... how would you really mess up your car at a track? yea maybe get couple of dents here and there but you dont really have to mind the dents..lol


Couple of dents here and there costs money... your suspension takes quite a beating too if you manage to hit something and make a dent while drifting. Maybe it's just my shitty car but I guess that depends on the car, my car would take a lot of damage from drifting and my tires are not for drifting either. I don't really know much bout cars so I can't really say but I love cars just don't know too much bout them.




haha yes couple of dents here and there costs money....if you fix it, orr you can try and remove those dents yourselves, ehhhh ive had my suspension for a veryyyy long time and they are still comfortable while sliding, lol you can really use any tires for drifting, just when you start pushing higher hp its better to get grippier tires, drifting and knowing about cars is 2 completely
different things..what car are you driving now?


Stock Nissan 350Z, I've never been taught the correct way to drift either so I doubt I'm doing it right. Maybe that's why I fuck the car up so easily.

Found it easier to drift with my friend's shitty Corolla, lol he was the one who taught me how to drift



is it the track edition? if its only the base you have a little while before you can drift. if youve got the track edition it comes with the stock vlsd if you got base model then your going to need to get a differential and coilovers always help out drifting

i have a track edition so im stuck with the sucky viscous for now but hopefully ill swap it out to a 2 way or something soon

lol shitty corolla? like the initial d one? im guessing it has coils and a diff

(are you on my350z?)



Nope, I didn't think I need a track edition cause at the time I just wanted a car for transportation lol I have a 2004 350Z roadster and it only comes in touring I think. And yeah my friend's shitty Toyota GTS was so easy to drift and he let us fuck it up too.

I've heard of My350z but nope I'm not on there




ok no offense but i think your feeding bs, i have drifted a corolla gts 85-86 with suspension/differential and some power mods they are much harder than other cars like 240's rx7's etc, i think your watching too much initial d.. lol (yes and my friends corolla is very nicely done)




i would have to agree with you about drifting 85-87 corolla gts. yes, easy to break traction, and even easier to overstreer.

i been drifting 86's since back in 2000 then got sick fixing stuff, upgraded to sc300 (welded diff). once in a while i would drift my lil bro's 86 (once mine) and let me tell you, i spin out like im a rookie all over again, no joke.




whatt?? did you even read what i said, easy to break traction? i think any car is really easy to break traction (clutch/ebrake/faint) easier to oversteer? lol trust me bro 86 is harder to drift than initial d claims, idk its just the steering felt really tight and its low power makes it even more challenging i mean i can still slide a rolla but idk feels like i have to try harder in the car


did you read what i said? i never disagreed about your initial d statement.

simply implying how easy it is to spin-out. yes any cars traction can be broken if you know how, but due to the weight of the 86, it gives out way easier. less effort to break traction, but more effort to control it.

so, true it is harder to drift an 86, without spinning out. thats why i said i feel like rookie all over again when im behind the wheels.

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Posted 10/25/08

RossoCorsa wrote:


hollafront wrote:


RossoCorsa wrote:


hollafront wrote:


Himemiya84 wrote:


Shabbernigdo wrote:


ryuuk3n wrote:

I don't do it because my car is FF car. Even if I had a RWD I probably wouldn't do it. I don't have the money to renew my tires all the time -_-



Dont have money for new tires? drift in the rain : ) its a lot easier and dosent do much dmg to your tires.


drift in the rain?
its so dangerous..But If u do that...I'm sure u r going to die soon...



drifting in the rain is not as dangerous as you think unless your doing it in the mountain pass or something. Yes a lot of drifters i know LOVE the rain because

1. you dont burn as much tire
2. cops dont hear you burn tire
3. easier to break a drift
4. you don't have to go as FAST to break your drift
5. FUN FUN FUN



Certainly your points are correct, but you're forgetting a lot of kids these days are 'drifting' by actually hydroplaning, some have even told me they put some soap in their tire tread.

It may not be dangerous to someone who is trained or with an instructor on a closed course, but to the average joe-blow who is "drifting" their civic or other car in the rain, there's a fine line between losing traction and being able to recover, versus losing traction and being able to plow into something.



certainly, i would always advise any beginner to practice at the track, for practice makes perfect. Drifting is all about good judgment, i have crash in dry/rain weather, broke countless control arm, rims, fenders, bumpers etc. but never wreck my car to the point of no return. Im sure all the drifters out there would agree with me, they've all been down that road before. accidents do happen, and most certainly will, its all part any auto sport. its totally up the driver to decide what is a good spot for them to drift, especially in the rain. for me id find a wide street corner with no park cars, in case i lose control id rather plow into a sidewalk than somebody's car, all part of what i call good judgment.


Agreed. I've torn up my cars several times, especially at 4x4/trailtrack/amateur driver cup rally events.
I powerslid through some gravel once like a complete n00b, ended up kicking a ton of rocks at people while also a small pothole appeared and caught the tire and rim, pulling the axle out completely. fun times, fun times.

The only thing i was stating (which i have a habit of not always making clear points) was that most of the people around here today don't really drift, and if they do, it's pure street racing and most don't realize the severity of the consequences. Sure, it's difficult to damage your car to being totalled by a track meet, but what if that guy didn't realize he'd have to pay a few hundred for a new LSD as well as say, a ton of parts he can only get at a marked-up money-hungry dealer?

Just sayin' people need to use caution and really plan out even the worst case scenarios.



yup, if the individual didn't realize he would end up breaking a few things here or there, at the track or not, he will soon find out. its all part of the sport. so, for all the folks jumping on the band wagon, be prepared to pay your mechanic tons of cash if you posses no tuning skills.






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Posted 10/26/08

hollafront wrote:

simply implying how easy it is to spin-out. yes any cars traction can be broken if you know how, but due to the weight of the 86, it gives out way easier. less effort to break traction, but more effort to control it.

so, true it is harder to drift an 86, without spinning out. thats why i said i feel like rookie all over again when im behind the wheels.


WTF, Dude? Have you ever owned a Corolla?

Corollas are light as fuck, which would prevent it from losing traction.

I've owned 3 so far in the past and they all love to understeer. Most of the effort was trying to find power from the top of 2nd gear to keep it from relieving traction.

Honestly Corollas were easier for me than my S13, because it's the car I learned how to drift in.



And I cannot stress this enough to everyone else. KEEP THE RACING ON THE TRACK!

DO NOT LEARN TO DRIFT IN A PARKING LOT.

DO NOT SPEED ON PUBLIC ROADS.

DO NOT PASS GO.

DO NOT COLLECT $200.


There are drift events every fucking weekend here in California, and it only costs $130 MAX per event!

It may seem like a lot, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than a wreckless driving or speeding ticket.

Do the smart thing and keep it on the track!
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Posted 10/26/08

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hollafront wrote:

simply implying how easy it is to spin-out. yes any cars traction can be broken if you know how, but due to the weight of the 86, it gives out way easier. less effort to break traction, but more effort to control it.

so, true it is harder to drift an 86, without spinning out. thats why i said i feel like rookie all over again when im behind the wheels.


WTF, Dude? Have you ever owned a Corolla?

Corollas are light as fuck, which would prevent it from losing traction.

I've owned 3 so far in the past and they all love to understeer. Most of the effort was trying to find power from the top of 2nd gear to keep it from relieving traction.

Honestly Corollas were easier for me than my S13, because it's the car I learned how to drift in.



And I cannot stress this enough to everyone else. KEEP THE RACING ON THE TRACK!

DO NOT LEARN TO DRIFT IN A PARKING LOT.

DO NOT SPEED ON PUBLIC ROADS.

DO NOT PASS GO.

DO NOT COLLECT $200.


There are drift events every fucking weekend here in California, and it only costs $130 MAX per event!


It may seem like a lot, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than a wreckless driving or speeding ticket.

Do the smart thing and keep it on the track!


please dont insult me, ive owned twice as many corollas as you!

try getting some negative camber and NRCA problem solved with your understeer and low end power.

Also i prefer coupes, lighter rear end, easier to drift for me.

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Posted 10/26/08 , edited 10/26/08

hollafront wrote:

please dont insult me, ive owned twice as many corollas as you!

try getting some negative camber and NRCA problem solved with your understeer and low end power.

Also i prefer coupes, lighter rear end, easier to drift for me.



It wasn't an insult, I've just never experienced your problem with any other Corolla, is all. I've owned, let alone driven quite a few of them on the track, and spinning out was just never an issue for me. (it could also be that i've never driven one with power steering?)

I'm not going to say I've never spun out, but that was before I was able to find my technique. Eventually I overcame the understeer, I just really had to step on it for my little 4ag to hold the drift. I also started running more stretched tires in the rear to help break traction easier.

Unfortunately I had to sell my Corolla earlier this year for school, so I ended up buying an s13. Now THIS car definitely requires a lot of steering correcting to hold a drift. Definitely had a bit of an oversteering problem.

All in good fun though.
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Posted 10/26/08

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hollafront wrote:

please dont insult me, ive owned twice as many corollas as you!

try getting some negative camber and NRCA problem solved with your understeer and low end power.

Also i prefer coupes, lighter rear end, easier to drift for me.



It wasn't an insult, I've just never experienced your problem with any other Corolla, is all. I've owned, let alone driven quite a few of them on the track, and spinning out was just never an issue for me. (it could also be that i've never driven one with power steering?)

I'm not going to say I've never spun out, but that was before I was able to find my technique. Eventually I overcame the understeer, I just really had to step on it for my little 4ag to hold the drift. I also started running more stretched tires in the rear to help break traction easier.

Unfortunately I had to sell my Corolla earlier this year for school, so I ended up buying an s13. Now THIS car definitely requires a lot of steering correcting to hold a drift. Definitely had a bit of an oversteering problem.

All in good fun though.


you could be right. my coupe has powersteering and lots of negative camber. at first i was going to eliminate the powersteering, which i have done in the past, but chose not to, eventually i got use to drifting with powersteering (all the pros have p.s.).

another point could be made between drifting a coupe vs hatch. i've definitely notice more understeer with a hatch, more baggage in the rear perhaps? my trick is to inflate tires to 50psi and problem solved lol.

sold my last corolla to my lil bro couple years back. i hated fixing one problem and another would appear. i now own a sc300.
heavy ass car but a torque monster.
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Yeah, hatches definitely need a good whip to get the rear end out there. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the huge glass window in the back. I really wanted to replace it with a fiberglass window, but never got around to it before I sold it.

Yeah, a lot of people told me to over-inflate my tires for less contact, but I just HATE uneven tire wear. I mean I like the ridiculous camber style, but there's something about not putting the rest of the tire to good use that just annoys me. lol
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Posted 10/27/08

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hollafront wrote:

simply implying how easy it is to spin-out. yes any cars traction can be broken if you know how, but due to the weight of the 86, it gives out way easier. less effort to break traction, but more effort to control it.

so, true it is harder to drift an 86, without spinning out. thats why i said i feel like rookie all over again when im behind the wheels.


WTF, Dude? Have you ever owned a Corolla?

Corollas are light as fuck, which would prevent it from losing traction.

I've owned 3 so far in the past and they all love to understeer. Most of the effort was trying to find power from the top of 2nd gear to keep it from relieving traction.

Honestly Corollas were easier for me than my S13, because it's the car I learned how to drift in.



And I cannot stress this enough to everyone else. KEEP THE RACING ON THE TRACK!

DO NOT LEARN TO DRIFT IN A PARKING LOT.

DO NOT SPEED ON PUBLIC ROADS.

DO NOT PASS GO.

DO NOT COLLECT $200.


There are drift events every fucking weekend here in California, and it only costs $130 MAX per event!

It may seem like a lot, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than a wreckless driving or speeding ticket.

Do the smart thing and keep it on the track!




thank you for explaining to "hollafront"

oh yea uhmm well for me since ive owned and drifted both coupe and hatch, i thought (when i drifted) the coupe had a bit more understeer than the hatches my hatch responded perfectly (almost like my s14)
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Yeah, hatches definitely need a good whip to get the rear end out there. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the huge glass window in the back. I really wanted to replace it with a fiberglass window, but never got around to it before I sold it.

Yeah, a lot of people told me to over-inflate my tires for less contact, but I just HATE uneven tire wear. I mean I like the ridiculous camber style, but there's something about not putting the rest of the tire to good use that just annoys me. lol




what kind of suspension are you running?springrates?any rucas?tie/tension/brace? i personally thought that the hatch is a greater car(to drift in) than the coupe, but in terms of making it look all pretty the coupe looks better
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Yeah, hatches definitely need a good whip to get the rear end out there. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the huge glass window in the back. I really wanted to replace it with a fiberglass window, but never got around to it before I sold it.

Yeah, a lot of people told me to over-inflate my tires for less contact, but I just HATE uneven tire wear. I mean I like the ridiculous camber style, but there's something about not putting the rest of the tire to good use that just annoys me. lol


ive always found the coupe to be more well balance versus the hatch, which is exactly why hatch owners replace it with fiberglass in the first place. i was never into the initial hype, even traded a hatch for coupe before.

for me the less i have to replace the front set of tires the better. need them for the rear anyways =)
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what kind of suspension are you running?springrates?any rucas?tie/tension/brace? i personally thought that the hatch is a greater car(to drift in) than the coupe, but in terms of making it look all pretty the coupe looks better

my corolla was running kyb agx's with swift springs set on max dampening (i think 9kg front/7kg rear). sway bar spacers, tein camber plates, greddy front and rear strut bars, my rear end was stitch welded all the way from the center console to the tail lights, tcs 4-links, and subframe spacers. it was pretty much the stiffest ride on any corolla i've ever driven. (stiffer than most coilover set-ups)
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yangss14 wrote:

what kind of suspension are you running?springrates?any rucas?tie/tension/brace? i personally thought that the hatch is a greater car(to drift in) than the coupe, but in terms of making it look all pretty the coupe looks better

my corolla was running kyb agx's with swift springs set on max dampening (i think 9kg front/7kg rear). sway bar spacers, tein camber plates, greddy front and rear strut bars, my rear end was stitch welded all the way from the center console to the tail lights, tcs 4-links, and subframe spacers. it was pretty much the stiffest ride on any corolla i've ever driven. (stiffer than most coilover set-ups)


yea actually thats prety stiff for a corolla, when i had my s14 i ran 8/6 for a while and then went to 10/8, the 10/8 wasnt too bad my friends running 8/6 on his corolla and i love the 8/6 on corolla lol
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I don't do it because my car is FF car. Even if I had a RWD I probably wouldn't do it. I don't have the money to renew my tires all the time -_-



Dont have money for new tires? drift in the rain : ) its a lot easier and dosent do much dmg to your tires.


No thanks I don't want to total my car. I worked hard for it -_-


I dident say go bust phat driftz in the middle of a highway lol.

go find large empty parking lot usualy best after store hours or during a holiday and practice. u ant gotta go crazy with it start small : )


I don't think FF cars should be used to drift anyways. I might end up flipping my car or something.


nah,, you should try it..start out slowly..



Down here is SOCAL when FF cars tries to drift we call it ASS SLIDING bc FF cars do not drift they just slide their HUGE ass LOL
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