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i am a christian but i am well open minded on the religions has in mind
i try my best no to taint their beliefs

anti-freeze
in your second question?
i have a question that if you answer will answer your question?

who is more deserving to be blessed?
a believer who commits sins
or an atheist who do good deeds and promote good ethics?

i especially hate people who da-mns other people that doesn't believe? would you be happy is someone told you that you'd be going to hell?
because even though others are not believer
they do not have the right to judge them
for they too are sinner and they too are human

we pray for other people... hmmm well we pray for other people for example to avoid accidents? for protection for luck to be with your side and for you to be in god's sight
Posted 10/12/08

anti-freeze wrote:

Hmm.. ok here is a question I asked to a religious Zealout and never got an answer too.

So often times you hear Christians say "I will pray for you". Why do you guys do this? I mean by definition, god gave all of humanity free will to believe whatever he or she wants to believe. Meaning that no matter what you pray about others you cannot do them any good, because if god changes this person's mind then go no longer gives us free will.

Secondly, as far as I can remember, in order to be saved you have to believe on your own. So if said individual does not believe they will go to hell no matter how much you vouch for them.

So I ask, what is the point? Most Christians will tell me I am going straight to hell for not believing, or if I challenge them they will get angry and threaten me in some way. So being nice and altruistic towards non-Christians just seems like a waste of energy. What is the point of praying for another?



"I will pray for you" meaning that the person will pray to God, not for Him to change a another person's mind and remove his free will, but to actually ask God to help this certain person. It does not mean that we ask God to change you, but to help you instead with your problems or whatever.

What do you mean with your second question?
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Aegis85 wrote:

why did jesus beg for his life to god when he was crucified?

why did the old testament prohibit eating pork while the new one allow?


1. As I understand he just asked why he'd been forsaken. Jesus didn't understand why he had to suffer-after all, he was in human form and could not fully comprehend the grandeur of God.

2.

Acts 10:9-19

9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray.
10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.
11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. ”
12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air.
13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”

14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”

15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.


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Jesus as a human, didn't want to suffer on the cross and begged God for another way. There was no other way, and Jesus still went and died for you.


I disagree. I think that there were other ways, but that God selected this one for a particular reason. By letting his son suffer God gave us a savior who we could relate to. It allows us to become closer to God. Kind of like creating some common ground in a relationship.
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do people who have never heard of god/young children automatically go to hell? or does god judge them based on what they've done in their lives?


I’ve made a deduction from various verses of the bible that leads me to believe that-no, not necessarily.

I believe, based on these verses (I’ll fish some of them out if you like,) that after we die God reveals himself to us. Once he does this it’s just a matter of choosing. We can choose God-goodness, and eternal prosperity-or we can choose to shun everything good and spend our eternal existence in the polar opposite-agony, anguish, and evil.

However, I feel that people who spend their whole life in the dark are very likely to shun the light. It’d be like sleeping through a dark night and then somebody turns on a really bright light. That much truth is very startling-but I believe it’s our choice.

Posted 10/12/08 , edited 10/12/08

SeraphAlford wrote:


digs wrote:

Jesus as a human, didn't want to suffer on the cross and begged God for another way. There was no other way, and Jesus still went and died for you.


I disagree. I think that there were other ways, but that God selected this one for a particular reason. By letting his son suffer God gave us a savior who we could relate to. It allows us to become closer to God. Kind of like creating some common ground in a relationship.


hm, looks like god would do EVERYTHING to get people on his side, he did even go so far to make his own son get crucified to make people recognize him. that's messed up. sounds like a typical power-hungry bastard. from what i see there is nothing merciful about this god mentioned in the bible.
Posted 10/12/08

zaccPie wrote:

well umm just quote my post if you wanna ask me something...cause imma christian^^


okey, if you really think of yourself as one..
why do you believe?
Posted 10/12/08

Cuddlebuns wrote:


Aegis85 wrote:

why did the old testament prohibit eating pork while the new one allow?


Because whoever wrote the new testament had tried bacon and knew how awesome it was.


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Poison_Of_The_Heart wrote:


zaccPie wrote:

well umm just quote my post if you wanna ask me something...cause imma christian^^


okey, if you really think of yourself as one..
why do you believe?


well for one i believe becasue there is proof...the Bible is proof...
second it is about your faith and how well you express it...cause if u keep that faith locked up you will never know how much you really love him...

"whoever does not love,
does not know GOD,
for GOD is LOVE"

1 John 4:8
Posted 10/12/08

zaccPie wrote:


Poison_Of_The_Heart wrote:


zaccPie wrote:

well umm just quote my post if you wanna ask me something...cause imma christian^^


okey, if you really think of yourself as one..
why do you believe?


well for one i believe becasue there is proof...the Bible is proof...
second it is about your faith and how well you express it...cause if u keep that faith locked up you will never know how much you really love him...

"whoever does not love,
does not know GOD,
for GOD is LOVE"

1 John 4:8


how can you love a person you can not hold?
or maybe, how can you love a person who can't hold you?

1 john...
often used for marriages, yup~

I love.
I hate.
humans that is~
but god?
I don't know him.

so tell me do I love?
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ShroomInferno wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


digs wrote:

Jesus as a human, didn't want to suffer on the cross and begged God for another way. There was no other way, and Jesus still went and died for you.


I disagree. I think that there were other ways, but that God selected this one for a particular reason. By letting his son suffer God gave us a savior who we could relate to. It allows us to become closer to God. Kind of like creating some common ground in a relationship.


hm, looks like god would do EVERYTHING to get people on his side, he did even go so far to make his own son get crucified to make people recognize him. that's messed up. sounds like a typical power-hungry bastard. from what i see there is nothing merciful about this god mentioned in the bible.


I think you’re purposefully misinterpreting the context of the action. Jesus Christ went willingly to die. Jesus Christ was the son of God-but he was also God himself. On normal terms that doesn't make sense, but Christianity is a mystic religion. It was a self-sacrifice for which I’m grateful.

This being said, you’re free to your beliefs…though, I’d like to see a bit more prudence.

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Posted 10/12/08

Poison_Of_The_Heart wrote:


zaccPie wrote:


Poison_Of_The_Heart wrote:


zaccPie wrote:

well umm just quote my post if you wanna ask me something...cause imma christian^^


okey, if you really think of yourself as one..
why do you believe?


well for one i believe becasue there is proof...the Bible is proof...
second it is about your faith and how well you express it...cause if u keep that faith locked up you will never know how much you really love him...

"whoever does not love,
does not know GOD,
for GOD is LOVE"

1 John 4:8


how can you love a person you can not hold?
or maybe, how can you love a person who can't hold you?

1 john...
often used for marriages, yup~

I love.
I hate.
humans that is~
but god?
I don't know him.

so tell me do I love?


you love someone cause they are always there with you...right?
(well technically love means that you care...or taht person cares)

Love is an intense feeling of affection (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVE)

"for GOd so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son..taht whoever may believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life" -John 3:16

God loved us...so why shoudnt we? you can know our God in any way...in everyday life even..you see him yet you dont know him..yet..cause you still havent noticed the intense feeling of his love for us he has always loved us..thats why he created us to be like him, (Genesis)

Posted 10/12/08

zaccPie wrote:


Poison_Of_The_Heart wrote:


zaccPie wrote:


Poison_Of_The_Heart wrote:


zaccPie wrote:

well umm just quote my post if you wanna ask me something...cause imma christian^^


okey, if you really think of yourself as one..
why do you believe?


well for one i believe becasue there is proof...the Bible is proof...
second it is about your faith and how well you express it...cause if u keep that faith locked up you will never know how much you really love him...

"whoever does not love,
does not know GOD,
for GOD is LOVE"

1 John 4:8


how can you love a person you can not hold?
or maybe, how can you love a person who can't hold you?

1 john...
often used for marriages, yup~

I love.
I hate.
humans that is~
but god?
I don't know him.

so tell me do I love?


you love someone cause they are always there with you...right?
(well technically love means that you care...or taht person cares)

Love is an intense feeling of affection (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVE)

"for GOd so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son..taht whoever may believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life" -John 3:16

God loved us...so why shoudnt we? you can know our God in any way...in everyday life even..you see him yet you dont know him..yet..cause you still havent noticed the intense feeling of his love for us he has always loved us..thats why he created us to be like him, (Genesis)



yup, but we ended up ruining paradise didn't we?

I don't love the people who are always with me..
to be honest the deepest love I've ever felt came from a person who was far away.

how can you be so sure that god loves all of us?
Knowing the bible as good as you seem to, you should know that god didn't love all people.

Posted 10/12/08

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whatsome wrote:


digs wrote:

Is there a real question? I'm a Christian and I am happy to answer any questions someone might have.


What's the difference between a Christian and a Catholic?


Catholics are a denomination of Christianity. But they differ from protestants in that some believe in prayers to the saints, that the Sacraments become literal (that the Lord's Supper is physically Jesus' Flesh and Blood)

Catholics believe that the Pope is the head of the Church, some Catholics believe in infant baptism. Basically, Catholicism is a form of Christianity. Views differ from Catholi to Catholic (much like everyone else's views differ on each thing) It's tough to define with strict boundaries what Catholics are. But these are just a few basics that most (or at least some) would believe.


What other branches do Christians have?

How come there's a denomination in Christian religion?

What religion was it who doesn't believe in Mama Mary? Why?

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whatsome wrote:


digs wrote:


whatsome wrote:


digs wrote:

Is there a real question? I'm a Christian and I am happy to answer any questions someone might have.


What's the difference between a Christian and a Catholic?


Catholics are a denomination of Christianity. But they differ from protestants in that some believe in prayers to the saints, that the Sacraments become literal (that the Lord's Supper is physically Jesus' Flesh and Blood)

Catholics believe that the Pope is the head of the Church, some Catholics believe in infant baptism. Basically, Catholicism is a form of Christianity. Views differ from Catholi to Catholic (much like everyone else's views differ on each thing) It's tough to define with strict boundaries what Catholics are. But these are just a few basics that most (or at least some) would believe.


What other branches do Christians have?

How come there's a denomination in Christian religion?

What religion was it who doesn't believe in Mama Mary? Why?



There are a few, Baptists, Pentecostals, Methodists, Lutherans...

There are different denominations because people choose to interpret the Bible differently. Mainly because satan works through division, and he wants Christians to have pride and prevent unity.

I don't completely understand your last question. What do you mean by that? Do you mean religions that don't believe in the virgin birth of Jesus?

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