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Are violent games one of the reason why people are violent?
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Okay I am getting sick of this subject I work at a gamestop and because of these idiots who say games cause violence and these parents who believe games are evil, every time we sell a game we have to go through 200 hoops soon we will end up having to do a dang phycological evaluation before we sell them the game. Please stop u are just embaresing yourself and I will prove why.

1. In numerous studies it has been proven that games do not cause violence and that the people who do these things are crazy.

2. most of the time you here about this stuff is when someone does something stupid but do you ever notice most of the time those people are sadist, stupid, dont care or just outcast people that are usally messed with.

3. if games caused violence how come everyone in the world are not shooting or running over each other.

4.Some people are just crazy.

5. Finally if games do cause violence how come tv does not I mean I can turn on the tv go three channels and either see someone getting beat up or shot I dont want to go do those things.

Seriously my god how stupid are these people to make them think that they are right.
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Zerog65 wrote:

Okay I am getting sick of this subject I work at a gamestop and because of these idiots who say games cause violence and these parents who believe games are evil, every time we sell a game we have to go through 200 hoops soon we will end up having to do a dang phycological evaluation before we sell them the game. Please stop u are just embaresing yourself and I will prove why.

1. In numerous studies it has been proven that games do not cause violence and that the people who do these things are crazy.

2. most of the time you here about this stuff is when someone does something stupid but do you ever notice most of the time those people are sadist, stupid, dont care or just outcast people that are usally messed with.

3. if games caused violence how come everyone in the world are not shooting or running over each other.

4.Some people are just crazy.

5. Finally if games do cause violence how come tv does not I mean I can turn on the tv go three channels and either see someone getting beat up or shot I dont want to go do those things.

Seriously my god how stupid are these people to make them think that they are right.


Your exactally right,

Actually I've also come accross nermours studies that say that it actually is more prone to stop those kinds of "crazy" people from acting out. It relieves stress and lets them kill things in a fake world rather then the real one.

Also, my mother and grandmother are both "those" type of parents who think games are evil. (though I play them anyway ^_^)

But I've had them both say games that games from my Tales of Symphonia, Kingdom Hearts, SSB, and even the stupid game Herdy Gerdy (That my aunt though would be a good game to get me, it's a game for 4 year olds so Idk what she was thinking when I was 15....anyway.) Both my Mother and Grandma though that they were all "Incredible Violent" games and that I was going to go out and go hit some one or they blamed it on any vilolent behavior I have EVER.....

These paraents are just looking for excuese and not taking the blam on them selves or their own childeren who commit these crime. If you did it it's ur own fault.

But they can't believe it cause they don't want to so they blam it on everything else under the sun.

cause their "Good Parents" or some something to that extent.
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Zerog65 wrote:

Okay I am getting sick of this subject I work at a gamestop and because of these idiots who say games cause violence and these parents who believe games are evil, every time we sell a game we have to go through 200 hoops soon we will end up having to do a dang phycological evaluation before we sell them the game. Please stop u are just embaresing yourself and I will prove why.

1. In numerous studies it has been proven that games do not cause violence and that the people who do these things are crazy.

2. most of the time you here about this stuff is when someone does something stupid but do you ever notice most of the time those people are sadist, stupid, dont care or just outcast people that are usally messed with.

3. if games caused violence how come everyone in the world are not shooting or running over each other.

4.Some people are just crazy.

5. Finally if games do cause violence how come tv does not I mean I can turn on the tv go three channels and either see someone getting beat up or shot I dont want to go do those things.

Seriously my god how stupid are these people to make them think that they are right.


Your exactally right,

Actually I've also come accross nermours studies that say that it actually is more prone to stop those kinds of "crazy" people from acting out. It relieves stress and lets them kill things in a fake world rather then the real one.

Also, my mother and grandmother are both "those" type of parents who think games are evil. (though I play them anyway ^_^)

But I've had them both say games that games from my Tales of Symphonia, Kingdom Hearts, SSB, and even the stupid game Herdy Gerdy (That my aunt though would be a good game to get me, it's a game for 4 year olds so Idk what she was thinking when I was 15....anyway.) Both my Mother and Grandma though that they were all "Incredible Violent" games and that I was going to go out and go hit some one or they blamed it on any vilolent behavior I have EVER.....

These paraents are just looking for excuese and not taking the blam on them selves or their own childeren who commit these crime. If you did it it's ur own fault.

But they can't believe it cause they don't want to so they blam it on everything else under the sun.

cause their "Good Parents" or some something to that extent.


thank you for agreeing most of these people who bring these things up have never even played games and never gave them a chance but they dont wont to give them a chance and when they see their kids say something or do something they dont "approve" they get ticked when most of the time it was them that they learned it from, example I learned my first cuss word from my parents.

I just want to see it stop I am so sick of it.
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Nah, personally i think a bad early child hood leads to violent people.
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Nah, personally i think a bad early child hood leads to violent people.


I'd have to disagree and agree.

Yes, childhood gives the foundation to most of how the child acts. BUT (now hears the key) a person is not going to go on a rampage killing everyone cause when they were 4 timmy pushed them off the slide.

Yeah a bad child hood can (there's the key word "can") lead to some future problems but it depends on what. If you have ever read the book "A Child Called "It"" (which i suggest you do) the things in there did happen, that kid was forced to eat dog crap and ammonia and then not fed anything but scrapps from the garbage and then beaten to near death, on a daily basis. He turned out to be a great parent and husband (You know this by reading the next to biography "The lost Boy" and "A Man Called Dave") And he doesn't hate his mother who was the one who did that to him. Read the books and what I just said wont seem as crazy. lol

No, what makes a person a killer is a few things.

1. They lack the front part of there brain. It's there but some, (and realize I say some) lack activity in that area. That is the reasoning part of the brain. It stores the information that makes it so that we know that with this action you'll get this reaction. Some or most killers can't usually put two and two together. This is one part of it. It's not true for all but it is true for most.

2. The person's life after the age of (I'd say at least) 10-13. usually this is when the kid starts making their own choices. this is also when I think they fall into things psychologically easier. If the kid is picked on, bullied, verbally abused, but only enough, it usually breads a dark person. their lives arn't horrible but they think it is and drag them selves down.

3. (now this relates to two) The parents them selves. You can be the 'best' 'most loving' parent but if you do such things like get unbelievable angry over small things (just yelling nothing much more, or verbal abuse) I think that, depending on the kid, it can have a extreme effect. like if the kid can't talk with the parents unless they can yell louder and occasionally more vulgar things, then this can lead to them being violent as a way of getting the parents to quiet so the kid can talk. This usually leads to even more violence.

This is just what I think usually leads to these people who explode and go kill people. Except for #1, that was a actual fact that I have heard repetitively. (If anyone wants a link to the show I watched with it on of maybe a website if I can find it let me know.) But just from the patterns and the evidence I've compiled, it really just seems that it's mostly later in life(I'm not talking about when they killed just to clarify, I'm talking about the 10-13 age range I gave), the parents fault, the other kids fault, and usually the kids fault his/her self.

Its a simple thing. You can tell someone all day how horrible it is to kill your self, but if they really wanna do it and have made up their minds, what's going to stop them?

Their so far down inside of their own dark pits that the light of day is a impossible thing to them.

The kids who have done things kinds of things usually explode at the more idiotic things, and I bet if you ever sat down with them and asked them "why?" I have a very strong feeling that it would be even more idiotic then what set them off.
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no because i play lots of violent games but ppl tell me im a nice person
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This subject caught my eyes. And I am tired about how everyone blames things at video games. Im a senior now in high school. My math skills arent so strong to begin with, and i had a F for the 1st quarter, yea thats bad. But it wasnt like a low F, i was 1 or two points away from a D, and the only reason why I had an F was because i missed two tests because of an Illness that transfixed itself on me. (it sucked.)

I was also doing poorly in Ap Art History, a college class that is absurdly hard. (And i dont care what anyone says.) Two subjects that Im doing bad in, and the fact that i was supposedly doing bad in Computer Art (Which is untrue. Since my stupid teacher didnt grade crap for me, saying I didnt turn it in on time, when i did. Its not my fault that brainless oaf didnt check her stupid virtual share dropbox crap.) Called my grandmother up, and is now checking my grades regularly.

Got my parents to take my video games away, saying its a hindering factor on my schoolwork and life. Saying that Im doing poorly because of it, an addiction is what she called it. But it pisses me off. Since she knows nothing about me (She seriously doesnt, she isnt even my real grandmother. And i know thats bad, if i think that way.)

She took away my games, stating that whenever she comes around to my house she sees me playing the 360 on halo or some other game. But it just makes me think, Why are you stupid? ITS THE WEEKEND. It isnt like i play video games 24 hours a day, especially on a school day. I know my responsibilities and i think she needs to learn to not get in my life so much.

You might not think this is relevant to the subject, but I was just tryin to prove a point. My mother used to blame my anger and other doodads because my mind was always on video games. And I lost it there, and screamed finally, just roared, it has nothing to do with video games. Because I stood there and i took it for so many years.

And now my grandma is blaming it again on video games.

I hate adults in there blaming video games and criticizing them, I havent gotten play my games within a week now. (Last night I got to play, since it was like 1 in the morn but i didnt get to for long.) And I feel so stressed and angry, video games is my stress reliever as someone had stated previously, its my way to escape reality for just a few hours before i have to tackle the next math homework or something.

Bah. Im sorry for ranting. If you guys read any of that, you have my respect.
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A game can act as one of any number of influences on a person, but it depends on the person if they'll act. I don't think video games make people violent or more violent, but I agree with what someone said earlier that it depends on the environment and the person.
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i think no cuz i need it to cool my head
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upshegoes29 wrote:

A game can act as one of any number of influences on a person, but it depends on the person if they'll act. I don't think video games make people violent or more violent, but I agree with what someone said earlier that it depends on the environment and the person.


what kind of influences though? Games are played for a few simple reasons.

1.Game Play

2.Story

3.Art (includes Audio)

When it comes down to it, would you play a game with no plot or entertainment value if it had awesome graphics? Most wouldn't.

Good games are made with good stories and good graphics, if either lacks then no one usually will play it. Now, when it comes to learning things you learn from the story. And generally, most stories have morals that are in it and usually without it, it's a bad story. And typically morals are things that people an learn that can be applied in life that are beneficial.

In Halo for example. It's not just a game where you run around and kill without reason. No one would play it if it was like that. But Halo actually has some very good morals and values.

The morals of Halo
1. Religious fanaticism is BAD
2. Don't kill your ally

(note, I dislike halo, I will fight for it on this topic though, but the above morals are from my little brother who LOVES halo. So it's not biased it's from a halo freak himself lol ^_^)

though some morals aren't that great in games. they tend (for the better ones) ALL have some kind of moral to learn.

The people who hate games are only looking on the surface of the game. If they gave it a chance and sat down and played it for once they would see that it wasn't what they thought it was.
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Eule_Vix wrote:

what kind of influences though? Games are played for a few simple reasons.

1.Game Play

2.Story

3.Art (includes Audio)

When it comes down to it, would you play a game with no plot or entertainment value if it had awesome graphics? Most wouldn't.

Good games are made with good stories and good graphics, if either lacks then no one usually will play it. Now, when it comes to learning things you learn from the story. And generally, most stories have morals that are in it and usually without it, it's a bad story. And typically morals are things that people an learn that can be applied in life that are beneficial.

In Halo for example. It's not just a game where you run around and kill without reason. No one would play it if it was like that. But Halo actually has some very good morals and values.

The morals of Halo
1. Religious fanaticism is BAD
2. Don't kill your ally

(note, I dislike halo, I will fight for it on this topic though, but the above morals are from my little brother who LOVES halo. So it's not biased it's from a halo freak himself lol ^_^)

though some morals aren't that great in games. they tend (for the better ones) ALL have some kind of moral to learn.

The people who hate games are only looking on the surface of the game. If they gave it a chance and sat down and played it for once they would see that it wasn't what they thought it was.


I was thinking more along the lines of other forms of entertainment like film or even books. Along with environment and other things those can have an impact on people. People can sometimes take the ideas or examples of situations in them to the extreme. This isn't a great example but a while back there was some kid and his friends who tried to plan a shoot out at their school. The ringleader was supposedly obbessed with the Matrix, calling himself Neo, etc. Is the violence in the movie what caused him and his friends to try and act out so violently? I don't think so, but people look for something to blame so it makes sense of abnormal behavior.

Ultimately, I think that if something happens everyone shouldn't just go and blame the movie or the game saying "It made me do it." Unless you're really mentally unstable or something than you should have control over your own actions.

Anyway, in the case of video games I haven't personally run into anyone who has said "video games make me rage!" But what I have heard people say is that they think of certain games with violence as a sort of stress reliever. They are able to seperate the game from reality and so there isn't any problem.

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THAT's a BIG NO
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nah
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upshegoes29 wrote:


Eule_Vix wrote:

what kind of influences though? Games are played for a few simple reasons.

1.Game Play

2.Story

3.Art (includes Audio)

When it comes down to it, would you play a game with no plot or entertainment value if it had awesome graphics? Most wouldn't.

Good games are made with good stories and good graphics, if either lacks then no one usually will play it. Now, when it comes to learning things you learn from the story. And generally, most stories have morals that are in it and usually without it, it's a bad story. And typically morals are things that people an learn that can be applied in life that are beneficial.

In Halo for example. It's not just a game where you run around and kill without reason. No one would play it if it was like that. But Halo actually has some very good morals and values.

The morals of Halo
1. Religious fanaticism is BAD
2. Don't kill your ally

(note, I dislike halo, I will fight for it on this topic though, but the above morals are from my little brother who LOVES halo. So it's not biased it's from a halo freak himself lol ^_^)

though some morals aren't that great in games. they tend (for the better ones) ALL have some kind of moral to learn.

The people who hate games are only looking on the surface of the game. If they gave it a chance and sat down and played it for once they would see that it wasn't what they thought it was.


I was thinking more along the lines of other forms of entertainment like film or even books. Along with environment and other things those can have an impact on people. People can sometimes take the ideas or examples of situations in them to the extreme. This isn't a great example but a while back there was some kid and his friends who tried to plan a shoot out at their school. The ringleader was supposedly obsessed with the Matrix, calling himself Neo, etc. Is the violence in the movie what caused him and his friends to try and act out so violently? I don't think so, but people look for something to blame so it makes sense of abnormal behavior.

Ultimately, I think that if something happens everyone shouldn't just go and blame the movie or the game saying "It made me do it." Unless you're really mentally unstable or something than you should have control over your own actions.

Anyway, in the case of video games I haven't personally run into anyone who has said "video games make me rage!" But what I have heard people say is that they think of certain games with violence as a sort of stress reliever. They are able to separate the game from reality and so there isn't any problem.



yes it is, I was just trying to give a little more stable ground for the people who disagree and think they make people violent. If you tell them there's morals and values in games they occasionally listen ^_^'' (like my mother who now plays a few games but still thinks their violent.)

Yes, their for entertainment value, but I like to think of them more then that cause then there's no substance to them (in my opinion.)
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