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Are violent games one of the reason why people are violent?
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Posted 11/17/08
definitely not!!
Posted 11/17/08
not at all, us violent men like to walk round barbaric, thumping our hands on our chest, steal women from the weak and eat raw meat......oh not to forget that we enjoy fighting dinosaurs
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ettenoj wrote:

definitely not!!


it is actually
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um...it's not like anyone is accusing men of being the only violent ones. goldengoat55555, the thing is anyone can do anything if they so chose to.

The games, book, and videos don't make anyone do anything. They can't physically reach out and grab you, or take control of your mind and make to do anything. It's your own choice and own fault. Inanimate objects do not live, and these people blame it on something that can't do what their saying.

I read a article today that pissed me off. some kid did a study about video games and if there addicting and shit. Well guess what. Most of the kids who played the video games did less homework and concentrated on the video game rather then other things. Also some of the kids started stealing.

The following is what I WISH I could ask this kid!!

1. WHAT GAMES DID HE SHOW?
2. Were the kids isolated so that OUTSIDE influences didn't, well, INFLUENCE the kids who started stealing?
3. What amount of time was each kid required to play?
4. Were the behavior patters of each kid checked BEFORE the test?
5. HOW LONG WAS IT DONE FOR?
6. How exactly were the kids monitored?

(I will bring the article from my school tomorrow and put it up on here for everyone to read, I can't find any kind of link to it and it's in New York Times Upfront magazine, so I'll type it up here with the kids name and everything, maybe someone can find the article printed somewhere.)

Anyway, here's one of the big things that get me, HOW does someone who can't wait to get back to the game they were playing JUSTIFY that it's an addiction??? USUALLY I can't wait to get back to a book, or a movie I was watching, or anything else besides my homework, but that DOES NOT mean that I'm addicted to those things! Actually I think that most or everyone can agree that doing anything BUT homework is MUCH more enjoyable. But it does not mean that someone is addicted to anything!

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Posted 11/17/08

Eule_Vix wrote:

um...it's not like anyone is accusing men of being the only violent ones. goldengoat55555, the thing is anyone can do anything if they so chose to.

The games, book, and videos don't make anyone do anything. They can't physically reach out and grab you, or take control of your mind and make to do anything. It's your own choice and own fault. Inanimate objects do not live, and these people blame it on something that can't do what their saying.

I read a article today that pissed me off. some kid did a study about video games and if there addicting and shit. Well guess what. Most of the kids who played the video games did less homework and concentrated on the video game rather then other things. Also some of the kids started stealing.

The following is what I WISH I could ask this kid!!

1. WHAT GAMES DID HE SHOW?
2. Were the kids isolated so that OUTSIDE influences didn't, well, INFLUENCE the kids who started stealing?
3. What amount of time was each kid required to play?
4. Were the behavior patters of each kid checked BEFORE the test?
5. HOW LONG WAS IT DONE FOR?
6. How exactly were the kids monitored?

(I will bring the article from my school tomorrow and put it up on here for everyone to read, I can't find any kind of link to it and it's in New York Times Upfront magazine, so I'll type it up here with the kids name and everything, maybe someone can find the article printed somewhere.)

Anyway, here's one of the big things that get me, HOW does someone who can't wait to get back to the game they were playing JUSTIFY that it's an addiction??? USUALLY I can't wait to get back to a book, or a movie I was watching, or anything else besides my homework, but that DOES NOT mean that I'm addicted to those things! Actually I think that most or everyone can agree that doing anything BUT homework is MUCH more enjoyable. But it does not mean that someone is addicted to anything!

....gggggrrrrrrrr.........


okay i don't know where you went with the addiction part, but anyway watching acts of violence has an impact of how people behave. even though they can't 'physically reach out and grab you', work produce by albert bandura(1961) and her bobo doll experiment showed in her experiment kids would re-enact scenes of violence when they were showed on a video, this can be applied for games, magazines etc etc, as long there is a form of a stimuli which is shown to be a form of aggression. us scientist believe that any or if not every social interaction had some form of impact on us, lets say when we do nothing....this causes us to be bored. similar to the chaos theory of when one thing has an impact on another(good to read about but not completely relevant) or when one thing determines the outcome of another.
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Posted 11/17/08 , edited 11/17/08

goldengoat55555 wrote:


Eule_Vix wrote:

um...it's not like anyone is accusing men of being the only violent ones. goldengoat55555, the thing is anyone can do anything if they so chose to.

The games, book, and videos don't make anyone do anything. They can't physically reach out and grab you, or take control of your mind and make to do anything. It's your own choice and own fault. Inanimate objects do not live, and these people blame it on something that can't do what their saying.

I read a article today that pissed me off. some kid did a study about video games and if there addicting and shit. Well guess what. Most of the kids who played the video games did less homework and concentrated on the video game rather then other things. Also some of the kids started stealing.

The following is what I WISH I could ask this kid!!

1. WHAT GAMES DID HE SHOW?
2. Were the kids isolated so that OUTSIDE influences didn't, well, INFLUENCE the kids who started stealing?
3. What amount of time was each kid required to play?
4. Were the behavior patters of each kid checked BEFORE the test?
5. HOW LONG WAS IT DONE FOR?
6. How exactly were the kids monitored?

(I will bring the article from my school tomorrow and put it up on here for everyone to read, I can't find any kind of link to it and it's in New York Times Upfront magazine, so I'll type it up here with the kids name and everything, maybe someone can find the article printed somewhere.)

Anyway, here's one of the big things that get me, HOW does someone who can't wait to get back to the game they were playing JUSTIFY that it's an addiction??? USUALLY I can't wait to get back to a book, or a movie I was watching, or anything else besides my homework, but that DOES NOT mean that I'm addicted to those things! Actually I think that most or everyone can agree that doing anything BUT homework is MUCH more enjoyable. But it does not mean that someone is addicted to anything!

....gggggrrrrrrrr.........


okay i don't know where you went with the addiction part, but anyway watching acts of violence has an impact of how people behave. even though they can't 'physically reach out and grab you', work produce by albert bandura(1961) and her bobo doll experiment showed in her experiment kids would re-enact scenes of violence when they were showed on a video, this can be applied for games, magazines etc etc, as long there is a form of a stimuli which is shown to be a form of aggression. us scientist believe that any or if not every social interaction had some form of impact on us, lets say when we do nothing....this causes us to be bored. similar to the chaos theory of when one thing has an impact on another(good to read about but not completely relevant) or when one thing determines the outcome of another.


as I have said in previous posts, yes, I know that it does have some act in it. But what I was saying is that people are acting like it can actually force you to do things, YES it has some stimulus, but it's not the only factor nor the reason why.

Most parents are trying to blame it on video games as to aspects of their children, like it's the only other thing in their lives besides homework.
Posted 11/17/08 , edited 11/17/08

Eule_Vix wrote:


goldengoat55555 wrote:


Eule_Vix wrote:

um...it's not like anyone is accusing men of being the only violent ones. goldengoat55555, the thing is anyone can do anything if they so chose to.

The games, book, and videos don't make anyone do anything. They can't physically reach out and grab you, or take control of your mind and make to do anything. It's your own choice and own fault. Inanimate objects do not live, and these people blame it on something that can't do what their saying.

I read a article today that pissed me off. some kid did a study about video games and if there addicting and shit. Well guess what. Most of the kids who played the video games did less homework and concentrated on the video game rather then other things. Also some of the kids started stealing.

The following is what I WISH I could ask this kid!!

1. WHAT GAMES DID HE SHOW?
2. Were the kids isolated so that OUTSIDE influences didn't, well, INFLUENCE the kids who started stealing?
3. What amount of time was each kid required to play?
4. Were the behavior patters of each kid checked BEFORE the test?
5. HOW LONG WAS IT DONE FOR?
6. How exactly were the kids monitored?

(I will bring the article from my school tomorrow and put it up on here for everyone to read, I can't find any kind of link to it and it's in New York Times Upfront magazine, so I'll type it up here with the kids name and everything, maybe someone can find the article printed somewhere.)

Anyway, here's one of the big things that get me, HOW does someone who can't wait to get back to the game they were playing JUSTIFY that it's an addiction??? USUALLY I can't wait to get back to a book, or a movie I was watching, or anything else besides my homework, but that DOES NOT mean that I'm addicted to those things! Actually I think that most or everyone can agree that doing anything BUT homework is MUCH more enjoyable. But it does not mean that someone is addicted to anything!

....gggggrrrrrrrr.........


okay i don't know where you went with the addiction part, but anyway watching acts of violence has an impact of how people behave. even though they can't 'physically reach out and grab you', work produce by albert bandura(1961) and her bobo doll experiment showed in her experiment kids would re-enact scenes of violence when they were showed on a video, this can be applied for games, magazines etc etc, as long there is a form of a stimuli which is shown to be a form of aggression. us scientist believe that any or if not every social interaction had some form of impact on us, lets say when we do nothing....this causes us to be bored. similar to the chaos theory of when one thing has an impact on another(good to read about but not completely relevant) or when one thing determines the outcome of another.


as I have said in previous posts, yes, I know that it does have some act in it. But what I was saying is that people are acting like it can actually force you to do things, YES it has some stimulus, but it's not the only factor nor the reason why.

Most parents are trying to blame it on video games as to aspects of their children, like it's the only other thing in their lives besides homework.


okay not to get trigger happy and all but the the title for the topic is 'Are violent games one of the reason why people are violent?' and you have said 'yes, I know that it does have some act in it' which means it has an effect, if it has an effect then it can be the reason why and could be the cause. other things that are uncontrollable variables could have an influence although narrowing down to the point it would seem we are able to conclude that violent games is one reason why.
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Ok, just because something can have some kind of effect, and mind you, a SLIGHT effect, does not mean that it's the complete reason.

Also, the ways it can effect usually arn't even violent. Actually when it comes to games they're used more and a stress reliever and can help people with violent tendencies to take it out on the fake things in the games rather then any action in real life. Also most of the effects are just minor things.

It's when a bunch of kids go out and kill people and then themselves and the parents and police not really know what caused it blame it on the easiest thing.
Posted 11/18/08
hm no not really. personality issues are more the problem, and the environment they grew up in.
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People are violent because we're stuck in a world that's so huge and so small at the same time. We can connect to someone a thousand miles away, and never know a thing about them. The world is overpopulated, and we can feel the end breathing down our necks cuz we're too damn aware of everything.

We're violent because we want to not be here all the damn time.
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Posted 11/18/08
no
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Posted 11/18/08
Yes , some people around the world who played GTA , go around slashing people in real life , as if they are in the game
Posted 11/18/08
no way... that's a cop-out some people might use as an excuse for doing messed up stuff. i think it comes from who you hang out with and where you live
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Yes , some people around the world who played GTA , go around slashing people in real life , as if they are in the game


Ok, what proof do you have that has them saying "I kill people cause I did it in a game."

Please show me proof!!!
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no, mostly movies are the reason
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