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Posted 10/10/08
Ren and Nana I think their love is not easy to be together even they love each other so much... ..Sometimes with Ren, she thought that she wanted to fight against him (Blast and Trepnest), and she was pride so much even she need him..This kind of love is not easy to love each other,I didn't believe it will be real love, for them it's like sex that they give each other , but words are important too. I want them to support each other, give comfort to each when one needs and give consultant , they did but it's not enough, they need to sacrifice, Ren wanted to do too but he couldn't leave Trepnest. I thought they should go along each other and end up the job one day to make a family if they didn't do they wouldn't find any of happiness (always busy)...sometimes Nana was so much stubborn...anyway, Ren died.

Nana should be with Yasu...I like them..for me Yasu is dependable for her...When she needed him he would be hurry to her.. I would like them to be together..Could they will end up someday when they see Nana? I know Nana is independent woman, she thought she could live alone. Maybe it will be Yasu, I would love to see that ..We know that Ren died. I'm really sad too that Ren's dead but we look for the next future...

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Posted 10/10/08
hmm....if Ren really died , who do u guys think NANA will be with? i think it will be Yasu
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hmm....if Ren really died , who do u guys think NANA will be with? i think it will be Yasu


ren did die...i think thats the reason why nana run away
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Posted 12/26/08 , edited 12/26/08
i think ren and nana really loved each other.and it was a powerful love.the kind of love that comes once in a life time .there were many things that stod betwen them ambition, pride,but it is hard for them to life one without each other.or much better it's hard for nana to live without ren.that's way she dissapered. i don't think she will be with anyone.
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I agree. I don't think Nana O will be with anyone romantically. She might be reunited with her old friends in the future chapters but a love so deep, like the love she shared with Ren cannot easily be forgotten. I'm afraid things will get worse and worse in the chapters about the past. If it weren't for the -slightly- lighter tone of the parts about the future I wouldn't have the heart to read.

But, it's true what they say that love only is not enough. There's got to be trust and support between two lovers. Nana has abandonment issues because of her mother and when Ren left her, things got worse. That's why I also think she reacted that strongly when Hachi moved out and went to live with Takumi. She found a best friend, a sister and a mother in Hachi and then she 'abandoned' her too.

I think she was really hurt every time Ren put Trapnest and Reira above her and their relationship. Nana has the need to look independent and she doesn't want to show any weakness. But, deep down she is more fragile than Reira. She just doesn't like to show it.

Got sidetracked there. The thing is, Ren and Nana's love was so consuming, overwhelming and powerful that it became the stuff of legend. Wasn't Hachi that said something of the like? That girls all over the world still remember the love story of Nana and Ren after almost a decade of its tragic ending?
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you forgot something...sometimes i think nana is also the female version of takumi she is very possessive to the point of even putting padlock to her lover's neck that's how possessive she is...don't you think she is scary??? that was at least shin think...
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Posted 1/3/09 , edited 1/3/09

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you forgot something...sometimes i think nana is also the female version of takumi she is very possessive to the point of even putting padlock to her lover's neck that's how possessive she is...don't you think she is scary??? that was at least shin think...


You must not get the rabbit-lock reference.

Sid Vicious, the legendary punk icon and bassist for the Sex Pistols and the idol to Ren, wore the same trinket. It was given to him by Chrissy Lynde of The Pretenders, his girlfriend at the time. He told her to keep the key, which was later lost. It was a very romantic thing I find.



Sadly Chrissy and Sid broke up as they were both heavily involved in their respective bands.

Sadly, later Sid fell fatally in love with an evil bitch who lead him on, got him addicted to heroin, and drove him nuts. Her name was Nancy Spungen.



It was speculated that he killed her via a stabbing after The Sex Pistols broke up. However this is contrary to much evidence.
Sadly Sid died of a heroin overdose shortly after he was released from jail, no less supplied by his own mother, who in anguish of guilt deliberately committed a suicidal overdose herself several years later.

God rest his soul.



The concept of the lock is a romantic homage to Sid and his lost love. It doesn't have anything to do with possessiveness.

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Posted 1/3/09 , edited 1/3/09

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I agree. I don't think Nana O will be with anyone romantically. She might be reunited with her old friends in the future chapters but a love so deep, like the love she shared with Ren cannot easily be forgotten. I'm afraid things will get worse and worse in the chapters about the past. If it weren't for the -slightly- lighter tone of the parts about the future I wouldn't have the heart to read.

But, it's true what they say that love only is not enough. There's got to be trust and support between two lovers. Nana has abandonment issues because of her mother and when Ren left her, things got worse. That's why I also think she reacted that strongly when Hachi moved out and went to live with Takumi. She found a best friend, a sister and a mother in Hachi and then she 'abandoned' her too.

I think she was really hurt every time Ren put Trapnest and Reira above her and their relationship. Nana has the need to look independent and she doesn't want to show any weakness. But, deep down she is more fragile than Reira. She just doesn't like to show it.

Got sidetracked there. The thing is, Ren and Nana's love was so consuming, overwhelming and powerful that it became the stuff of legend. Wasn't Hachi that said something of the like? That girls all over the world still remember the love story of Nana and Ren after almost a decade of its tragic ending?


I like your perspective the best. It's very touching. I just wish that their story did not end in tragedy.

But then again, it wouldn't be as memorable if it wasn't would it?
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gentlewater wrote:

you forgot something...sometimes i think nana is also the female version of takumi she is very possessive to the point of even putting padlock to her lover's neck that's how possessive she is...don't you think she is scary??? that was at least shin think...


Sid Vicious, the legendary punk icon and bassist for the Sex Pistols and the idol to Ren, wore the same trinket. It was given to him by Chrissy Lynde of The Pretenders, his girlfriend at the time. He told her to keep the key, which was later lost. It was a very romantic thing I find.

Sadly Chrissy and Sid broke up as they were both heavily involved in their respective bands.

Sadly, later Sid fell fatally in love with an evil bitch who lead him on, got him addicted to heroin, and drove him nuts. Her name was Nancy Spungen.

It was speculated that he killed her via a stabbing after The Sex Pistols broke up. However this is contrary to much evidence.
Sadly Sid died of a heroin overdose shortly after he was released from jail, no less supplied by his own mother, who in anguish of guilt deliberately committed a suicidal overdose herself several years later.

God rest his soul.

The concept of the lock is a romantic homage to Sid and his lost love. It doesn't have anything to do with possessiveness.



i shouldn't have said that i didn't know it has something to do with sid but at that moment what occurs to me was the statement which shin gave how he described nana's love... for me, putting padlock on one's neck is a sign of possession i don't see it as romantic sorry... now you mentioned sex pistol i remember watching the documentary about that band but grrhh i didn't paid much attention to it..
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selfishness make them falls apart. and when no one sees its coming. ren died. without any warning. maybe nana cant accept the fact ren actually does leaves her. but she got hachi. hachi is another great influence on her. nana wont forget ren she will remember him dearly. but life must go on. nana is a strong chick. dont forget that. their loves is a drmatic, tragic love story. one will remember.
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well Nana also has a tatoo of a flower which means Rens on her shoulder isnt that kinda a sign of possession as well? so i think their both equally possessive because he didn't have to wear the padlock and she didn't have to get that tatoo.
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Posted 1/20/09

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well Nana also has a tatoo of a flower which means Rens on her shoulder isnt that kinda a sign of possession as well? so i think their both equally possessive because he didn't have to wear the padlock and she didn't have to get that tatoo.


It seems more like devotion than possessiveness.
Ren could have taken it off any time he wished and Nana chose to get the tattoo.
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Sigh...I really believe that Nana and Ren did love each other. Their love was wonderful, childish, immature, weird, selfish and twisted lol. Its one of those "...For better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and health, until death do us part." kind of thing. They found each other and loved each other when no one loved them. They both didnt have any family who loved them. Nana loved him still even tho he left her to pursue his own thing and Ren loved her still even tho she wouldnt break her pride. If one of them died, they wanted to die right along with that person. I think its the fact that they both had their past issues which affects them to this day is why their love is so controversial. But even so their bond is so deep. I dont wanna say that they didnt know how to love each other the correct way coz there are many forms of loving someone but its something like that which is why people question if they were truly in love. I dunno thats what I think, well what I can put into words right now. My mind is like swaying in different directions in regards to this kind of topic.
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Posted 1/25/09 , edited 1/25/09

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Sigh...I really believe that Nana and Ren did love each other. Their love was wonderful, childish, immature, weird, selfish and twisted lol. Its one of those "...For better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and health, until death do us part." kind of thing. They found each other and loved each other when no one loved them. They both didnt have any family who loved them. Nana loved him still even tho he left her to pursue his own thing and Ren loved her still even tho she wouldnt break her pride. If one of them died, they wanted to die right along with that person. I think its the fact that they both had their past issues which affects them to this day is why their love is so controversial. But even so their bond is so deep. I dont wanna say that they didnt know how to love each other the correct way coz there are many forms of loving someone but its something like that which is why people question if they were truly in love. I dunno thats what I think, well what I can put into words right now. My mind is like swaying in different directions in regards to this kind of topic.


Ren didn't leave Nana. He even declined joining Trapnest several times before Yasu convinced him he shouldn't stick around in some small town because he'd never be happy and make it big. Ren asked Nana to come with him even, but she would not because of her pride. She wanted to make it big on her own and wasn't ready for Tokyo.

But yeah I totally agree with the rest of what you're saying. Their bond is deep and as Nobu said, they're love was something special and very rare that it was completely unbreakable. They never really broke up and both of them remained completely faithful despite completely being devoid of each other in every way. They were technically over due to being apart, but they were not over in their hearts. They never moved on because they could not.
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Posted 1/25/09 , edited 1/25/09
Even though it was copied from Sid I think the lock thing was a bit possesive of Nana (but I still find it romantic) and I think theres going to be a deeper meaning to why Ren died cuz Takumi said he didn't press the breaks so maybe it had something to do with Nana (he was feeling guily for not quiting the band or something??) but anyways I liked them as a couple there love was deep and true even if they were alittle messed up!
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