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Animators going downhill?
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Posted 10/11/08
For them to be more Original, Im so tired of the stupid, running to class sequences. Also whats with these writers, sometimes watching some of the animes I feel like I'm watching a bad Soap opera.

And people say Japanese cartoons are suppose to be more mature then American cartoons? Even the baby on family guy isn't afraid to seduce someone. LOL

I've never seen three year olds promise to marry each other then keep that promise later in life, or I'd have a lot of angry husbands.

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1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of
2. Some of the most original anime you have seen
3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.
4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?
5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:_____

I personally love Zestubou sensei, Kōji Kumeta he is funny.

Rules.
no flaming anyone
try and respect others opinions please.

This is not about anime cliches, so much as bad writing in general and over used things <-yes thats a cliche but its part of bad writing and lack of imagination, and originality. Discussing what direction cartoons should start to take. Moving on from the old played out things I guess.
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Posted 10/11/08 , edited 10/11/08
1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of
Focus more on the plot. Avoid crappy adaptations.
2. Some of the most original anime you have seen
Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, To Aru Majutsu no Index, Kannagi, and many more.
3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.
Naruto, Bleach.
4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?
Why would there be? If you don't want to watch "cliche" animes, then don't watch. I've never seen an anime without "cliche". Even original anime has its cliche.
5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:_____
"Oops.. I tripped and landed on a girl touching" cliche.

Anime section pl0x.
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Posted 10/11/08 , edited 10/11/08
I personally don't feel that there's anything wrong with the current anime industry writing wise. Sure you'll get some bad eggs here and there every new season, but several good series are also released, too. You're always bound to have that annoying harem series that just won't end with it's ridiculous cliches. So if you're so annoyed with unoriginal series, I suggest you read some reviews on a series before you watch it. See how others thought of it, and if it's something you might think would be original.

Anyway, back to your discussion questions/topics

What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of?
Harems.
Some of the most original anime you have seen:
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Soul Eater.
Some of the worst writing you have seen:
To Love-Ru, He is my Master, Rosario + Vampire.
Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?
No. That would be stupid, pointless, and damaging to the anime industry in one way or another.
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Posted 10/11/08
watch Kaiji you morons....
That anime is a class act! no cliches in it!
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Posted 10/11/08
1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of
Kids summoning monsters from cards, balls, or anything else.
2. Some of the most original anime you have seen
Black Lagoon, The snow Queen
3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.
Can't think of anything because I turn it off immediately if it's terrible.
4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?
Wouldn't help anything... A lot of anime is meant to be cliche... It's not as though someone was like, "Hey, I have an idea nobody has thought of: Girls with CAT EARS!!"
5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:_____
CAT GIRLS!!! There are enough of them already. Seriously. No more. Just stop.
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1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of = Fillers, wait for the manga to print enough chapters instead of ruining it
2. Some of the most original anime you have seen - Kaiji, Akagi
3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.- the fillers of KHR and Naruto
4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?- No, that's gay. Only a retard otaku would sign it...
5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:_____ - Cliche dialogues "It can't be helped" "Too slow!" " I have to use THAT move" "Is he using THAT move?" "What was that incredible power?"

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1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of
Stupid Romantic tension, romantic leads should get down to business.
2. Some of the most original anime you have seen
Gungrave was awesome. "Hm, a mafia story... oh shit, science fiction!"
3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.
Dumb shit Love Hina type crap.
4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?
It wouldnt do shit.
5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:_____
The "OMG you perv, stop trying to see me naked!" one... I know they really mean, "Just stick in my pooper"
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1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of

Avoid making anime that is so damn predictable.

2. Some of the most original anime you have seen

Mobile Suit Gundam (Real Robot), Mazinger Z (Super Robot), Tsukihime (Vampire), Slayers (Fantasy), Ghost In The Shell (Cyberpunk).... etc, etc, etc....

3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.

Final Fantasy: Legend of the Crystals. It's so horrible that even the most hardcore Final Fantasy fan detest it.

4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?

It's not worth the trouble.

5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:____

None so far.
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Personally I dont think there's much wrong with anime but if really dont like the show, don't watch it or read the manga (sometimes it tends to be better). I'll answer the questions anyways cause there are always gonna be cliches we cant stand.

1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of

Unnecessary fillers (just stick with managa writter's original story unless you can do something creative with the fillers and not mess up the story line), and being too predictable (I'm fine with a little predictable-ness)

2. Some of the most original anime you have seen

Black Cat, Afro Samurai, DeathNote

3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.

Inuyasha, Naruto, Bleach, Ichigo 100%, others I cant think of right now

4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?

No, I think that's overdoing it. Besides I doubt anyone would sign it.

5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:_____

" I can't choose between these two girls/guys"

and

"I'm going to have a way too long internal diaologue and leave my self completely open. Why? Because I know my opponent won't attack me...he's probably doing the same thing"

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1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of

Overly shallow and fast moving romances. They seriously suck. "Mary-Sue' characters, characters who 'act' innocent when they not. FILLERS.

2. Some of the most original anime you have seen

Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei

Great art style, story line and characters.
Axis Powers Hetalia

The idea to personify countries as real people is too good. It's super funny, and a great gag series.
Princess Tutu

I thought this would be some shit Shoujo...I was so wrong. It has such a good plot, totally different, and very dark despite some funny bits...
Revolutionary Girl Utena

This just throws normal out the window. So metaphysical,allegorical, symbolic, tragic...Just brilliant. A total classic, and much better than Evangelion >_>

3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.
Fushigi Yugi,Vampire Knight, Skip Beat, Shugo Chara...FILLERS

4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?
No, that's stupid.

5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:_____
The "Falling in love after 5 minutes", sudden unexpected kissing...
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1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of
FILLERS. And they should cut back on the romance. It's boring, give it a rest or come up with a different plotline, at least. I'm sick of all this annoying repetitive garbage.

2. Some of the most original anime you have seen
Eden of the East, Axis Powers Hetalia, dot hack, Sayonara! Zetsubou Sensei, Monster, Baccano!, Serial Experiments Lain, Neon Genesis Evangelion

3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.
Shugo Chara!, Hell Girl, Skip Beat!, Lucky*Star, The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi

4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?
If only that would change anything.

5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:_____
Magical girls.
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What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of?
A boring plot. I have seen many old animes and they are really good, but now the new generation make up crappy ones.
Most of it has to do with Romance and stuff i want ACTION with a little romance kinda like Shugo Chara but a little less girly

Some of the most original anime you have seen:
Rental Magica, D.Grayman Kaze no stigma

Some of the worst writing you have seen:
So many to choose from Blue Dragon like what the heck kind of show is that

Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?
I mean we can vote on it and see which anime should be produced because its all about the customer right? I i think
maybe we should because it waste money to make anime no one likes .
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Posted 9/15/09 , edited 9/15/09
Let me start by saying, its not so easy being original. If one of us think I am kidding, well try writing something original yourself and you'll understand. And if you are lucky or talented enough to come up with something original, there are some studios out there whom will be willing to pay good chunk for it.

Some of the most original anime I've seen are Kaiji, Shigurui, Denno Coil, Serial Experiments Lain. There are a lots more of original.

Also, One Outs, the way they develop the story was original for a sport's related anime. And don't forget Noein, an anime completely base on quantum physics :)

Yes, we do need to see more original anime. But a warning, there are people who end up making an anime that sucks just by trying to hard to be so original. So, lets not pressure the animators and the writers lol
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Posted 9/15/09 , edited 9/15/09
There isnt much bad writing in anime shows.And cliches are seen in every media like movies,tv,or other mass media.Anime has cliches of their own like other media.You cant really say its bad if you cant do any better.Plus,animators and writers of anime arent paid as much as you think.They do it cause they love anime,only a few is doing it to get lots of money.But thats only if their anime is popular.

To answer the questions.

1. What you think the new generation animators should steer clear of?

They can do want ever they like,its not our decision.We cant force them to stay clear of stuff like fillers or something.Everyone has writers or mental blocks once in a while.Or more than usual.

2. Some of the most original anime you have seen

Hayate no Gotoku,Bakemongatari,Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei,Baccano,and more.

3. Some of the worst writing you have seen.

Not really caring about writing.Doesnt matter if its cliche or really original.I never seen bad writing.

4. Should there be a petition to have so many cliche animes stop being produced?

No,that would make us be like those Conservative catholics(no offensive to catholics) who sent a petition to GW Bush to ban anime in America.We cant force any anime company to stop making cliche anime especially in these rough times.

5. Which cliche do you think should be put to rest. RIP:

None,nothing is wrong with using an idea again and again.

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